Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
In 5354420b.8020...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 04/20/2014 at 02:54 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: I was unaware that such a restriction existed. Both the 3180 and the 3192 had one set of terminal type configuration options for a fixed screen geometry and a separate set of options for variable geometry. With an extended terminal type it would accept any BIND that the hardware supported. Does anybody recall whether that was also the case for later models? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On 4/18/2014 8:17 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: On the 3180 you had to set the terminal to an extended[1] mode in order to accept a nonstandard BIND e.g., 43x80 (P) 27x132 (S).. Could some of the 3270 simulators have a similar requirement? [1] No connection with extended data stream. I was unaware that such a restriction existed. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
In 534f026e.1090...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 04/16/2014 at 03:21 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: The logmode I posted simultaneously creates both 68x80 and 68x142 geometries. On the 3180 you had to set the terminal to an extended[1] mode in order to accept a nonstandard BIND e.g., 43x80 (P) 27x132 (S).. Could some of the 3270 simulators have a similar requirement? [1] No connection with extended data stream. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On 4/14/2014 11:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: But is there an alternative? The logmode I posted simultaneously creates both 68x80 and 68x142 geometries. Setting ISPF to 'Data' Screen Format rather than 'Max' Screen Format, you get best-of-both-worlds behavior. ISPF will switch to 68x80 on ISPF Option 6 (using default, uncustomized panel) and to 68x142 for IPCS BROWSE and similar displays that require more width. IMHO much better than having a typical 24x80 default size with 68x142 alternate. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell From years of experience the x'02' is the query. If that's not on, you gets what's dealt so to speak. As one of the local auto dealers says 'irregardless'. Actually, it's the x'80' that contains the query bit. The x'02' specifies LUTYPE2. -jc- In a message dated 4/14/2014 4:55:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: PSERVIC=X'02804450448E7F00' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ** Information contained in this e-mail message and in any attachments thereto is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems, notify the sender immediately, and refrain from using or disclosing all or any part of its content to any other person. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Good catch, My old yellow notes just had PSERVIC starting with x'0280' as queryable. The next page describes the entries... In a message dated 4/15/2014 6:41:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jch...@ussco.com writes: Actually, it's the x'80' that contains the query bit. The x'02' specifies LUTYPE2 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
In 984dfc2f94c72c4c9e9acbfd71e4feee0bf...@fg1014.ftb.ca.gov, on 04/11/2014 at 04:41 PM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov said: As far as my site? We are on z/OS 01.13.00 (ISPF 6.3), VTAM 6.1.D so whatever these offer VTAM offers whatever you define; ISPF may impose some restrictions. Does your 3270 simulator support negotiated BIND? Read Partition Query? Explicit Partitions? I used to run a 3180 with a primary of 42x80 and a secondary of 27x132; ISPSF handled it with no problems. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Thanks Linda. But, where would I define the screen parameters, for example; 60 x 132? Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 4:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Hey George, I have an old version myExtra! Enterprise at work. Under Settings, Display are the usual mod 2 through mod 5 and an option Any Model. Try selecting Any Model. Then logon on with the logmode (which must already be defined in ComServer). I use the format of LOG appl, logmode. As always, YMMV. HTH, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:01 PM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: It's the emulator that is the wrench which I have zero pull over in the apps on our desktop... :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Birr Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Hey Bill, we're sysprogs, there's surely a way?!!! But as others stated already, if a proper logmode isn't available you're out of luck. Only way: ask your VTAM lady/lad to make it available, there's no security risk at all... Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im Auftrag von George, William@FTB Gesendet: Freitag, 11. April 2014 22:13 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Good idea but... our USB's are locked down too. LOL. Security is taken seriously here. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Birr Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Bill, you are aware of the possibility to launch Vista TN3270 (my favourite as well) off an USB stick, no installation needed? Greetings from lower Bavaria Christian __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
The system programmer at your site defines the logmode and its parameters. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:14 AM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Thanks Linda. But, where would I define the screen parameters, for example; 60 x 132? Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Ok, I'll contact them to see if what they have setup. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 The system programmer at your site defines the logmode and its parameters. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:14 AM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Thanks Linda. But, where would I define the screen parameters, for example; 60 x 132? Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:46:44 -0700, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 4/11/2014 1:11 PM, George, William@FTB wrote: I received an off list email from Attachmate who stated that after speaking with their support group , Extra doesn't have the ability to define custom screen sizes. :( No custom screen sizes?! Doesn't sound very X-treme to me. ;) Personally, I like to use 68x80 default screen size paired with 68x142 alternate screen size. If my emulator couldn't support that, surely I would perish... Ya know, I tried that when all the support came in (IBM and emulator) - and thanks for your work BTW, but even though I don't like the white space on ISPF option 6 (which I use rarely anyway), I found keeping a consistent font size by always using 62 x 142 (what I use) was much easier on the eyes instead of the font constantly changing. When I expand win-doze windows (for most apps I work with on the desktop) the font size doesn't change. The perception of many people I work with is still how can you read that small font and then I put it side by side next to email, and they see it is the same size or even a bit bigger. -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://search390.techtarget.com/ateExperts/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:24:26 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:46:44 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 4/11/2014 1:11 PM, George, William wrote: I received an off list email from Attachmate who stated that after speaking with their support group , Extra doesn't have the ability to define custom screen sizes. :( No custom screen sizes?! Doesn't sound very X-treme to me. ;) But which X-treme are they thinking of? (Some would call it mean.) In this area, x3270 offers better performance/price. ... I don't like the white space on ISPF option 6 ... On one of these lists lately someone kindly informed me that panel ISRTSOA avoids the white space problem. At the limit of my skill, I copied ISRTSOA renamed it ISRTSO, and added a comment. ISRTSOA has the lesser (IMO) drawback (IMO) of retaining the command after it has been issued (I could always have retrieved it). (which I use rarely anyway), ... But is there an alternative? Why is all this so maddeningly hard!? (I ask from the perspective of one accustomed to resizing a browser window by dragging on a handle and having the display suitably adjust, effortlessly.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:12 AM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Ok, I'll contact them to see if what they have setup. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 The system programmer at your site defines the logmode and its parameters. This idea looked promising so I built a few logmode table entries on our test system to see how Extra reacts to different combinations of primary and secondary screen size definitions. I can confirm that Extra does not behave well when it receives a bind that specifies a non-standard screen size. Reflection can be configured for non-standard screen sizes (but it cannot be configured for different non-standard dimensions for primary and secondary - sorry EdJ). Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On 4/14/2014 1:00 PM, Alan Haff wrote: This idea looked promising so I built a few logmode table entries on our test system to see how Extra reacts to different combinations of primary and secondary screen size definitions. I can confirm that Extra does not behave well when it receives a bind that specifies a non-standard screen size. For the record, this is what I'm using right now: ** *68X80 AND 68X142* ** P6868142 MODEENT LOGMODE=P6868142, FMPROF=X'03', TSPROF=X'03', PRIPROT=X'B1', SECPROT=X'90', COMPROT=X'3080', RUSIZES=X'87F8', PSERVIC=X'02804450448E7F00', APPNCOS=#CONNECT -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
From years of experience the x'02' is the query. If that's not on, you gets what's dealt so to speak. As one of the local auto dealers says 'irregardless'. In a message dated 4/14/2014 4:55:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: PSERVIC=X'02804450448E7F00' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
What modes are available at the site you are trying to connect to? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:32 AM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Is anyone aware of a means to configure Attachmate's Extra X-treme (v9.3) emulator to display a screen size other than the base models (2,3,4,5)? Checking the help and the Attachmate site I've not found any hints on this. I was hoping there might be a config member that might allow tweaking beyond what is offered on the base Display setup screen of the four base models. Note: I'm aware of other emulators that are quite flexible is screen size configuration and would LOVE to be able to install such however we are locked into using what is given us and app installs are shut off. Thanks Bill __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Not real sure what you're asking so I'll go with; The emulator offers the base models of: Model 2 (24X80) Model 3 (32x80), Model 4 (43X 80) and Model 5 (27x132). As far as my site? We are on z/OS 01.13.00 (ISPF 6.3), VTAM 6.1.D so whatever these offer unless there is some system configuration member that limits modes. I understand there is a LOGMOD that allows for dynamic screen sizes but the emulator needs to be able to communicate with it. I do recall in the past successfully logging on with that mode (which escapes me at the moment) but the emulator could not set any screen size other than the base ones shown above. This is outside my knowledge base but I have seen old posts on how to do it with other emulators but it seems Attachmate's Extra! X-treme does not have this ability as far as I can find. This is why I'm asking and hoping someone has found a means to do this. Thanks Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 What modes are available at the site you are trying to connect to? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:32 AM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Is anyone aware of a means to configure Attachmate's Extra X-treme (v9.3) emulator to display a screen size other than the base models (2,3,4,5)? Checking the help and the Attachmate site I've not found any hints on this. I was hoping there might be a config member that might allow tweaking beyond what is offered on the base Display setup screen of the four base models. Note: I'm aware of other emulators that are quite flexible is screen size configuration and would LOVE to be able to install such however we are locked into using what is given us and app installs are shut off. Thanks Bill -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
From a VTAM logon screen, this works for any screen size you can implement in your emulator, though I believe there is a limitation of maximum bytes per screen = 8192 (60 x 132 = 8184 bytes): logon applid=TSO,logmode=D4C32XX3 That logmode is supplied by IBM by default unless your VTAM network administrator has deleted it. If you have Netview Access or some other terminal distributor or interface this logmode may or may not be available to you. I only know that it works from a VTAM logon screen. Can't help with your Attachmate issue though, sorry. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George, William@FTB Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Not real sure what you're asking so I'll go with; The emulator offers the base models of: Model 2 (24X80) Model 3 (32x80), Model 4 (43X 80) and Model 5 (27x132). As far as my site? We are on z/OS 01.13.00 (ISPF 6.3), VTAM 6.1.D so whatever these offer unless there is some system configuration member that limits modes. I understand there is a LOGMOD that allows for dynamic screen sizes but the emulator needs to be able to communicate with it. I do recall in the past successfully logging on with that mode (which escapes me at the moment) but the emulator could not set any screen size other than the base ones shown above. This is outside my knowledge base but I have seen old posts on how to do it with other emulators but it seems Attachmate's Extra! X-treme does not have this ability as far as I can find. This is why I'm asking and hoping someone has found a means to do this. Thanks Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 What modes are available at the site you are trying to connect to? On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:32 AM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Is anyone aware of a means to configure Attachmate's Extra X-treme (v9.3) emulator to display a screen size other than the base models (2,3,4,5)? Checking the help and the Attachmate site I've not found any hints on this. I was hoping there might be a config member that might allow tweaking beyond what is offered on the base Display setup screen of the four base models. Note: I'm aware of other emulators that are quite flexible is screen size configuration and would LOVE to be able to install such however we are locked into using what is given us and app installs are shut off. Thanks Bill -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Thanks Peter! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 From a VTAM logon screen, this works for any screen size you can implement in your emulator, though I believe there is a limitation of maximum bytes per screen = 8192 (60 x 132 = 8184 bytes): logon applid=TSO,logmode=D4C32XX3 That logmode is supplied by IBM by default unless your VTAM network administrator has deleted it. If you have Netview Access or some other terminal distributor or interface this logmode may or may not be available to you. I only know that it works from a VTAM logon screen. Can't help with your Attachmate issue though, sorry. HTH Peter __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
I am using 80 x 160 which is 12,800 bytes. I am using Vista Tn3270 by Tom Brennan. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George, William@FTB Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Thanks Peter! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 From a VTAM logon screen, this works for any screen size you can implement in your emulator, though I believe there is a limitation of maximum bytes per screen = 8192 (60 x 132 = 8184 bytes): logon applid=TSO,logmode=D4C32XX3 That logmode is supplied by IBM by default unless your VTAM network administrator has deleted it. If you have Netview Access or some other terminal distributor or interface this logmode may or may not be available to you. I only know that it works from a VTAM logon screen. Can't help with your Attachmate issue though, sorry. HTH Peter __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Yes, I am aware there are other emulators that do this and I actually used Vista at a previous shop and is my favorite however... I'm stuck with Extra! X-treme. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skeldum, William Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 I am using 80 x 160 which is 12,800 bytes. I am using Vista Tn3270 by Tom Brennan. Bill __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
My last two companies have used Extra and I've never found a way to use anything beyond the provided dimensions. I used PCOMM and Vista previously and had a 60x162 screen (or 62x160...can't remember which) and that provided a lot of screen real estate (though a bit small). Searching Extra docs didn't provide much but from what I gathered, changing dimensions was not possible. Chuck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George, William@FTB Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Yes, I am aware there are other emulators that do this and I actually used Vista at a previous shop and is my favorite however... I'm stuck with Extra! X-treme. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skeldum, William Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 I am using 80 x 160 which is 12,800 bytes. I am using Vista Tn3270 by Tom Brennan. Bill __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Bill, you are aware of the possibility to launch Vista TN3270 (my favourite as well) off an USB stick, no installation needed? Greetings from lower Bavaria Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im Auftrag von George, William@FTB Gesendet: Freitag, 11. April 2014 17:33 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Is anyone aware of a means to configure Attachmate's Extra X-treme (v9.3) emulator to display a screen size other than the base models (2,3,4,5)? Checking the help and the Attachmate site I've not found any hints on this. I was hoping there might be a config member that might allow tweaking beyond what is offered on the base Display setup screen of the four base models. Note: I'm aware of other emulators that are quite flexible is screen size configuration and would LOVE to be able to install such however we are locked into using what is given us and app installs are shut off. Thanks Bill __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
I received an off list email from Attachmate who stated that after speaking with their support group , Extra doesn't have the ability to define custom screen sizes. :( __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Good idea but... our USB's are locked down too. LOL. Security is taken seriously here. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Birr Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Bill, you are aware of the possibility to launch Vista TN3270 (my favourite as well) off an USB stick, no installation needed? Greetings from lower Bavaria Christian __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Again, it depends on the LOGMODE table at the site. On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Kreiter, Chuck ckrei...@visa.com wrote: My last two companies have used Extra and I've never found a way to use anything beyond the provided dimensions. I used PCOMM and Vista previously and had a 60x162 screen (or 62x160...can't remember which) and that provided a lot of screen real estate (though a bit small). Searching Extra docs didn't provide much but from what I gathered, changing dimensions was not possible. Chuck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George, William@FTB Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Yes, I am aware there are other emulators that do this and I actually used Vista at a previous shop and is my favorite however... I'm stuck with Extra! X-treme. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skeldum, William Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 I am using 80 x 160 which is 12,800 bytes. I am using Vista Tn3270 by Tom Brennan. Bill __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
Hey George, I have an old version myExtra! Enterprise at work. Under Settings, Display are the usual mod 2 through mod 5 and an option Any Model. Try selecting Any Model. Then logon on with the logmode (which must already be defined in ComServer). I use the format of LOG appl, logmode. As always, YMMV. HTH, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:01 PM, George, William@FTB bill.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: It's the emulator that is the wrench which I have zero pull over in the apps on our desktop... :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Birr Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Hey Bill, we're sysprogs, there's surely a way?!!! But as others stated already, if a proper logmode isn't available you're out of luck. Only way: ask your VTAM lady/lad to make it available, there's no security risk at all... Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im Auftrag von George, William@FTB Gesendet: Freitag, 11. April 2014 22:13 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Good idea but... our USB's are locked down too. LOL. Security is taken seriously here. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Birr Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3 Bill, you are aware of the possibility to launch Vista TN3270 (my favourite as well) off an USB stick, no installation needed? Greetings from lower Bavaria Christian __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Emulator Screen Size with Attachmate Extra X-treme 9.3
On 4/11/2014 1:11 PM, George, William@FTB wrote: I received an off list email from Attachmate who stated that after speaking with their support group , Extra doesn't have the ability to define custom screen sizes. :( No custom screen sizes?! Doesn't sound very X-treme to me. ;) Personally, I like to use 68x80 default screen size paired with 68x142 alternate screen size. If my emulator couldn't support that, surely I would perish... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
