On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 05:27:37PM -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:07:20 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> >
> >I could have written that poor MUAs lead to respondends being unable
> >to trim their emails to manageable size ...
> >
> I've heard of this misbehavior but never suffer
On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:07:20 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
>I could have written that poor MUAs lead to respondends being unable
>to trim their emails to manageable size ...
>
I've heard of this misbehavior but never suffered it. I assumed it was
by design for integrity, preventing misquotation or
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:22:09PM -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
> What the top-posting vs. bottom-posting folks don't seem to recognize is
> that both have their uses.
Maybe. But choosing just one option is very limiting, like claiming
that talking about oneself has its merits and talking about ot
What the top-posting vs. bottom-posting folks don't seem to recognize is
that both have their uses.
In a business conversation, a thread may go thru 20 exchanges, and then
someone new gets added. That person is going to be completely lost without
the history to follow up on, and the existing re
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:16:49 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote:
>On 2016-08-18 15:25, Bill Woodger wrote:
>> Gord, other than sounding slightly risque, I have no idea what
>> bottom-posting may mean.
>
Have you heard the nickname for the new British super-airship?
>... Personally, I hate bottom-posting,
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> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:36 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: GMail vs. COBOL
>
> I get dozens of business e-mails a day and no one, no one in th
sce.com
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I get dozens of business e-mails a day and no one, no one in
: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: GMail vs. COBOL
On 2016-08-18 15:25, Bill Woodger wrote:
> Gord, other than sounding slightly risque, I have no idea what bottom-posting
> may mean.
Bottom-posting is placing your reply at the bottom of the message, as
On 2016-08-18 15:25, Bill Woodger wrote:
Gord, other than sounding slightly risque, I have no idea what bottom-posting
may mean.
Bottom-posting is placing your reply at the bottom of the message, as I
did here. Top-posting is placing your reply at the top of the message,
as you did with your
Thanks, Bill, got to that now. Even after reading the manual, it still took
time to realise that the quote possibility only emerges once you've already
clicked on Reply.
The thing is, having got this far, am I still breaking things (topics) in gmail?
Gord, other than sounding slightly risque, I
On 2016-08-18 13:09, Bill Godfrey wrote:
When replying from the listserv web interface, the way to quote the message you
are replying to is to click on the large double-quote icon in the lower right.
This message was sent that way.
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:16:09 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
Wel
When replying from the listserv web interface, the way to quote the message you
are replying to is to click on the large double-quote icon in the lower right.
This message was sent that way.
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:16:09 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
>Well, I was wrong about there being no "reply"
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 05:26:25PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
[...]
> Hope this helps somebody. Sending via listserv interface to the list's
> archive seems to be source of the problem - I have not had time to log
> in there and see myself, but according to Bill W. there is no "reply
> to" option, o
Well, I was wrong about there being no "reply" from the listserv.ua.edu. If you
go into an archive month, you can reply there (can't work out how to get quoted
text, but I can always "reply" in the google group, copy, paste in here, type
what else I want (and trim) and "Send Message" from here,
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 08:23:56AM -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote:
[...]
> For me (I receive the messages with Thunderbird), Paul Gilmartin's
> messages also break threads on IBM-MAIN; Gil is active here, so his
> posts break lots of threads for me. Interestingly, his posts do not
> break threads on ASSE
On 2016-08-17 21:31, zMan wrote:
Heck, people reply to existing
threads with new topics;
This is a pure human behavioral issue, and drives me nuts.
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On 2016-08-18 07:18, Steve Horein wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Ed Jaffe
wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 6:31 PM, zMan wrote:
>
>> I mean, "When I read the list in GMail, I don't want to see a thread
>> broken
>> into 27 different ones simply because some folks use non-compliant MUAs."
>>
>
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Ed Jaffe
wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 6:31 PM, zMan wrote:
>
>> I mean, "When I read the list in GMail, I don't want to see a thread
>> broken
>> into 27 different ones simply because some folks use non-compliant MUAs."
>>
>
> Yes, every reply from Bill Woodger starts a
On 8/17/2016 6:31 PM, zMan wrote:
I mean, "When I read the list in GMail, I don't want to see a thread broken
into 27 different ones simply because some folks use non-compliant MUAs."
Yes, every reply from Bill Woodger starts a new thread. I have not yet
examined the headers to understand why.
likely (what are the
odds that there will be two unconnected threads called "GMail vs. COBOL" at
the same time?)
I certainly understand the purist argument; maybe it could be optional
(though I'd argue that it should be enabled by default).
But this is really OT and I misdoubt tha
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 05:02:38PM -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
> And now from the archive, posted as a reply to my last.
>
Both messages came to my mailbox, unlinked from the thread and from
each other. But I have already linked them. I am using mutt, all it
takes is four strokes per message - and
[Default] On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:50:29 -0700 (PDT), in
bit.listserv.ibm-main Bill Woodger wrote:
>As I understand it, when I "reply" from the google groups display, only the
>google-groups readers can see it, it doesn't go to the list itself. So you,
>Tomasz, can't see this one.
Does Google ha
And now from the archive, posted as a reply to my last.
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So, to test, do you see the message I posted below?
On Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:50:31 UTC+2, Bill Woodger wrote:
> As I understand it, when I "reply" from the google groups display, only the
> google-groups readers can see it, it doesn't go to the list itself. So you,
> Tomasz, can't see this
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 22:51:18 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:57:45PM -0400, zMan wrote:
>> Tomasz,
>>
>> I understand. But the MUAs mostly link by Subject: line;
>
>Uhum, I am not sure what you mean. But if I read you right this
>time[0], I was "always" sure the proper way to
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:57:45PM -0400, zMan wrote:
> Tomasz,
>
> I understand. But the MUAs mostly link by Subject: line;
Uhum, I am not sure what you mean. But if I read you right this
time[0], I was "always" sure the proper way to link one message to
another is by utilising information from
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:17:51PM -0500, Bill Woodger wrote:
> I use google groups to view the list, and
> https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=IBM-MAIN to post to the
> list. I have email delivery turned off, and do not reply to (the
> non-existent) emails from gmail.
>
> The google groups pres
I use google groups to view the list, and
https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=IBM-MAIN to post to the list. I have
email delivery turned off, and do not reply to (the non-existent) emails from
gmail.
The google groups presents everything nicely by topic, whether I include Re: at
the start o
Tomasz,
I understand. But the MUAs mostly link by Subject: line; I'm suggesting
that GMail could do the same, at least for notes classified as "Forums".
"We have the technology"...
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 01:54:25PM -0400, zMan wrote:
> > S
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 01:54:25PM -0400, zMan wrote:
> Sure would be nice if GMail were half as good at threading as COBOL is at
> detecting recursive calls. I see TEN different threads with the same
> subject.
>
> (Yes, I understand Message-ID and that some mailers [human or otherwise]
> remove
Perhaps now I know what you are talking about :-)
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Sure would be nice if GMail were half as good at threading as COBOL is at
detecting recursive calls. I see TEN different threads with the same
subject.
(Yes, I understand Message-ID and that some mailers [human or otherwise]
remove it, thus breaking automatic threading, but for discussion
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