Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Lester, Bob
IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) [ EXTERNAL ] On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > What kind of performance do you get running W10 on a Linux VM? I > tried running W10 under a VM on Mac OS and the performance

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > What kind of performance do you get running W10 on a Linux VM? I tried > running W10 under a VM on Mac OS and the performance was dreadful. I ended > up buying a new laptop with W10 on it. > > ​I don't have

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Frank Swarbrick
: Friday, June 23, 2017 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice < 0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "As I am rea

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Bill Wilkie
g the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) To turn off windows 10 updates: ctl-alt-delete->task manager->services->wuauserv->right click->stop -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-27 Thread Barkow, Eileen
LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) [Default] On 26 Jun 2017 08:45:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov (Barkow, Eileen) wrote: >I thought that the

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Bill Wilkie
ne 26, 2017 4:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) There was an option somewhere to turn the updates off altogether - I don't remember right now b

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Barkow, Eileen
pdate: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) [Default] On 26 Jun 2017 08:45:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov (Barkow, Eileen) wrote: >I thought that the Windows 10 Update problems were due to something in

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Clark Morris
ect: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems >programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) > >The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you >must install the updates. > > >I learned later af

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-26 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Of Bill Wilkie Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Mike Schwab
e guys at Best Buys and Staples how much they must be > making from Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said a fortune. > > > Bill > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Clark Morris > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread zMan
Oh, no, you have it all wrong. You can buy expertise by the pound, like salami. And it's easy to know the quality: just look for certifications like CISSP and the like; those guarantee that people know what they're doing! (Do I need a tag here?) On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Cameron Conacher

Assume versus understand was Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Clark Morris
nes and they said >> a fortune. >> >> >> Bill >> >> ________ >> >> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf >> of Clark Morris >> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Cameron Conacher
Scott, if I could add, they way the information is shared is so different. Wikis don't ask why. Wikis don't make suggestions or recommendations. Wikis do not promote discussions. Wikis are great if you want to know the parameter values. The history and life cycle is not there. I am an old guy but

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread scott Ford
I dont happen to agree with elimination of people like me and the colleagues on here. We are a different group of thinkers and source of a tremendous amount of knowledge. This knowledge cant be put into procedures or wikis ... On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > > On Jun 22,

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread scott Ford
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Clark Morris > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems > programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) >

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Bill Wilkie
: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) [Default] On 23 Jun 2017 06:14:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main pacemainl...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) wrote: >I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead to t

Re: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-25 Thread Bill Wilkie
nes and they said a fortune. Bill From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Clark Morris Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 perc

Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-24 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main idfli...@gmail.com (scott Ford) wrote: >Guys, > >I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS >2.2 . >But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am >basically all alone with

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-24 Thread scott Ford
Guys, I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS 2.2 . But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am basically all alone with other developers. My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh. I am seeing a lot of custome

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) Sounds like a variant of the SPE (Small Program Enhancement) of a few decades ago :),m and Selectable Units.

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Field, Alan
Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) CAUTION: This email originated outside of the organization. DO NOT

Re: Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) [Default] On 23 Jun 2017 06:14:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main pacemainl...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) wrote: >I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice < 0013e2d84072-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop > at least 10 times and spent many days and

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Bobbie Justice
"As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to recover. Be careful what you wish for." Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite e

Windows 10 auto update was Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Clark Morris
recover. >> Be careful what you wish for. >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf >> of Edward Gould >> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:12 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU &g

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
inson Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) Some time ago an idea floated through my field of vision that IBM would eliminate even software distribution by sup

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:15:21 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: >I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead to the same thing. > >On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote: > &g

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:15:21 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: >I am afraid this new "Continuous Update" may lead to the same thing. > >On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Bill Wilkie wrote: > >> As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic >> updates. Since accidentally going to Windo

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Pace
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts > contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) > > > On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Clark Morris > wrote: > >> __SNIP-- >

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-23 Thread Bill Wilkie
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Gould Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) > On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Clark Morris wr

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Clark Morris wrote: >> __SNIP-- > > If the goal was to eliminate the need for highly technical people who > understand the platform and the tradeoffs, that is a futile goal for > any operating system.

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes: > If the goal was to eliminate the need for highly technical people who > understand the platform and the tradeoffs, that is a futile goal for > any operating system. If the goal is to eliminate the need for > assembler coded exits, this is more doa

Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 22 Jun 2017 15:13:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) wrote: >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Tom Conley wrote: >> >> On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ >>>

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Tom Conley wrote: > > On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ >> >> IBM's contractor crackdown continues: Survivors refusing p

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Steve Beaver
setting up a BASIC website can be done in 2 days. Steve From: Edward Gould Date: June 22, 2017 at 14:33:31 CDT To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Steve Beaver
:33:31 CDT To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else) Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ IBM's contractor crackdown continues: Survivors refusing pay cut have hours re

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Tom Conley
On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ IBM's contractor crackdown continues: Survivors refusing pay cut have hours reduced Managers told to hit budgets, even if customers bleed IBM continues to devalue the systems programme

IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

2017-06-22 Thread Edward Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ IBM's contractor crackdown continues: Survivors refusing pay cut have hours reduced Managers told to hit budgets, even if customers bleed -- For IBM-MAIN subscri