Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:20:37 +, Rob Scott wrote: I seem to recall that common/shared memory objects are associated with the RASP address space rather than *MASTER*. There are a non-trivial amount of ISV software products that squirrel stuff away in ASID(1) off existing TCBs and some even

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-17 Thread Staller, Allan
That would be contrary to the definition and purpose of a dataspace. I can see (possibly) an anchor, but not the dataspace itself. snip Martin, how about Dataspaces? *MASTER* does own quite a few of them!! One of our systems currently has 1.2Gb lodged against MASTER, which whilst not quite

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-17 Thread Graham Harris
Perhaps some clarification of where the 'large memory numbers' are being reported from by the OP. In my site, looking at *MASTER* REAL usage, both in SDSF DA and RMF3 STORF, appear to account for real memory frames held by dataspaces owned by that ASID (which makes sense, as where else would they

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-17 Thread David G. Yeager
How about NETVIEW for the growth of storage in *Master*. The CANZLOG can use (without the TINYDS option) , a 2G dataspace. As soon as we installed NETVIEW V6R1 the MASTER grew even though we now use the TINYDS option. -- For

Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Martin Packer
Almost a year ago in https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/bad_data_and_the_subjunctive_mood?lang=en I talked about seeing large numbers for memory in MSTJCL00. At the time I got no takers as to what it could be. So I'm trying again here... ... Is MSTJCL00 the

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Staller, Allan
General thoughts with no hard data behind them. I.E. SWAGs 1) MSTJCL00 (i.e. *MASTER*) has been flagged by WLM as Storage Critical. Check w/WLM development. 2) Turn on the VSM* parameters in SYS1.PARMLIB(DIAG*) for data gathering. View w/IPCS and/or RMF. Not sure what (if any) RSM*

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Kenneth Wilkerson
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It? General thoughts with no hard data behind them. I.E. SWAGs 1) MSTJCL00 (i.e. *MASTER*) has been flagged by WLM as Storage

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Martin Packer
: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 09/16/2013 02:38 PM Subject:Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Martin Packer wrote: Almost a year ago in https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/bad_data_and_the_subjunctive_mood?lang=en I talked about seeing large numbers for memory in MSTJCL00. On what are you graph on that web page based? From what memory areas are those

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Rob Scott
September 2013 11:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It? Almost a year ago in https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/bad_data_and_the_subjunctive_mood?lang=en I talked about seeing large numbers for memory in MSTJCL00

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Martin Packer
/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 09/16/2013 03:01 PM Subject:Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Martin Packer

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Barry Merrill
. Barry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It? Good questions. To try and answer them... 1) Type

Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It?

2013-09-16 Thread Graham Harris
:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Memory For MSTJCL00 - Whose Is It? Good questions. To try and answer them... 1) Type 30 memory usage - not virtual. 2) I used to not see MSTJCL00 show up as a significant memory item compared to, say, System Logger. Now I see it sometimes over