Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
Hi Seems this is a APAR for the C++ compiler TITLE: PI13158: THE WRONG CASE IS TAKEN ON A SWITCH STATEMENT. - Title: PI13158: DER FALSCHE CASE VERWENDET mit einer SWITCH STATEMENT. - URL:http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1PI13158myns=z000mynp=OCSWG90mync=E On 18.02.2014 17:57, Miklos Szigetvari wrote: Hi Kirk We got an interim fix for the firts two problems, but it seems it has created a new one. Till now we don't have any APAR number , our PMR numbers can tell you. On 18.02.2014 17:51, Kirk Wolf wrote: Hi Miklos, Can you post any APAR numbers that arise from the problems with the C++ compiler that you found? Thanks, Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till now) We opened a number of PMR's about this , but for more than 10 years we trusted the compiler, now the trust is fading away. Some problem also with PDSE datasets. On 18.02.2014 15:47, Steven Werth wrote: I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research Development ISIS Papyrus Europe AG Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our brand new extended Website at www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS Papyrus accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research Development ISIS Papyrus Europe AG Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our brand new extended Website at www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS Papyrus accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems We had one significant problem with running VSAM in 64-bit mode. It affected us more than most because we are a vendor and some of our products broke under 2.1. The problem has been fixed so now it's a non-issue. We had a fair number of nit-picking problems, most like due to the increased content in 2.1. Most have been fixed. At this time I don't consider 2.1 to be any buggier than other releases. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
Steve, Will you be going to Share next month in Anaheim CA? That might be the perfect place to answer your questions. As you have noted, there have not been a lot of postings to IBMMAIN about z/OS V2.1. That might be due to not a lot of shops have implemented it yet. Our shop is considering going to z/OS V2.1 later this year. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steven Werth Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
Well, unless you ordered 1.13 and have it sitting in a box or downloaded somewhere, you are out of luck. Pretty sure the last day to order 1.13 was January 31st. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steven Werth Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:47:25 +, Steven Werth steven.we...@aps.com wrote: I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). We have z/OS 2.1 (and CICS 5.1) running in 2 sandbox lpars since December. We have followed the same process for every release. We run in the sandbox lpars for an extended time period and then start rolling it out to our other lpars starting in March and finishing in early summer. Because of the number of changes in the release we are going to delay for a month and start our rollout this year in April. I compared the number of problems we have created with the sandbox testing for z/OS 2.1 and 1.13 and they are about the same number (about 10). Here are some that are related to z/os. (1) JES2 abend fix by ptf (2) ISPF ZSTART option fixed by apar from CA for PDSMAN and apar from IBM (3) ISPF Scroll amount greater than fixed by changing site wide defaults version level (4) Unix issues with OMVS segments fixed by security. This seems to me to be a problem that hit more tasks than I would have guessed. Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
Hi We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till now) We opened a number of PMR's about this , but for more than 10 years we trusted the compiler, now the trust is fading away. Some problem also with PDSE datasets. On 18.02.2014 15:47, Steven Werth wrote: I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research Development ISIS Papyrus Europe AG Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our brand new extended Website at www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS Papyrus accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
Hi Miklos, Can you post any APAR numbers that arise from the problems with the C++ compiler that you found? Thanks, Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till now) We opened a number of PMR's about this , but for more than 10 years we trusted the compiler, now the trust is fading away. Some problem also with PDSE datasets. On 18.02.2014 15:47, Steven Werth wrote: I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research Development ISIS Papyrus Europe AG Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our brand new extended Website at www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS Papyrus accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
Hi Kirk We got an interim fix for the firts two problems, but it seems it has created a new one. Till now we don't have any APAR number , our PMR numbers can tell you. On 18.02.2014 17:51, Kirk Wolf wrote: Hi Miklos, Can you post any APAR numbers that arise from the problems with the C++ compiler that you found? Thanks, Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till now) We opened a number of PMR's about this , but for more than 10 years we trusted the compiler, now the trust is fading away. Some problem also with PDSE datasets. On 18.02.2014 15:47, Steven Werth wrote: I'm in the process of installing z/OS 2.1 and am far enough along that I expect to IPL it on a sandbox lpar very soon. Today, my manager tells me that she has heard from our intermediary with IBM that v2.1 is causing some issues for some companies and they are recommending that we not go to v2.1 but go to v1.13 instead (we're on v1.12 currently). I've been following the list closely for the past several months and don't recall seeing anything posted about v2.1 problems. Do any of you have it up and running? Did you run into major problems? Thanks, Steve Werth --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research Development ISIS Papyrus Europe AG Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our brand new extended Website at www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS Papyrus accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research Development ISIS Papyrus Europe AG Alter Wienerweg 12, A-2344 Maria Enzersdorf, Austria T: +43(2236) 27551 333, F: +43(2236)21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our brand new extended Website at www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS Papyrus accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about z/OS v2.1 stability
On 18 February 2014 11:47, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: We have here serious problems with the v2.1 C/C++ compiler, the generated machine code largely differs from 1.13, and with some serious errors (till now) Do these problems go with the compiler itself, or with the TARGET and OPTIMIZE levels you are specifying (or defaulting)? Or, put another way, does specifying lower levels for these avoid the problems? Any information on these problems you can post here will be welcome. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
