Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-15 Thread scott Ford
> From: Seymour J Metz > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 15/06/2020 18:27 > Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... > Passive FTP ... )] > Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > > I started using LyX and d

Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-15 Thread Martin Packer
ct:[EXTERNAL] Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )] Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List I started using LyX and decided that it was easier to just write my own LaTeX markup. I know longer recall what the issues are, but I use, e.g.

Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
ject: Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )] On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:44 PM Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > And WP still exists and is still thriving, AFAICT. I run WP X8 on my home > machines, and version X9 is out since last yea

Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-15 Thread John McKown
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:44 PM Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > And WP still exists and is still thriving, AFAICT. I run WP X8 on my home > machines, and version X9 is out since last year. I just haven't upgraded > yet. > > Use WP reveal codes on any reasonably comp

Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-15 Thread David Spiegel
ven try to do printed labels with MS. WP has done it right and easy forever. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) Old W

Re: WP vs MS [was:: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )]

2020-06-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
June 13, 2020 11:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) Old WP users, among whom I count myself, mourn the loss of reveal-codes mode. When my company switched from WP to Word (which I still think was largely my fault), I judged that Word was easier to us

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Charles Mills
+1 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) As a Californian, I have a special

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on > behalf of Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive F

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
_ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on > behalf of Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) > > > Wa

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
marc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:42:00 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: >... >Notice how you can clearly see what was your comment, and how my >responses directly

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:42:00 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: >... >Notice how you can clearly see what was your comment, and how my >responses directly relate to parts of your comment? > But only if your MUA distingushes quoted material. Am I a Luddite for eschewing HTML coloring (and even remembe

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-14 Thread Seymour J Metz
.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) Old WP users, among whom I count myself, mourn the loss of reveal-codes mode. When my company switched from WP to Word (which I still think was largely my fault), I judged

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Grant Taylor
On 6/13/20 11:46 AM, Bob Bridges wrote: Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? Yes! Very MUCH so! I've always assumed that bottom-posters are just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their responses without thinking about where. I'm sure there are some that are as laz

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Yes, they do sometimes. I got into the habit of cleaning up emails before replying to them: removing signatures, some of the headers (but always leaving the From and Date lines), sometimes even some of the content, as some of us do here. But I had a boss recently who objects strenuously to that p

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Old WP users, among whom I count myself, mourn the loss of reveal-codes mode. When my company switched from WP to Word (which I still think was largely my fault), I judged that Word was easier to use for the easy things - italics and bold at keystroke, for instance - but harder to control for the

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Initials>, really? I didn't know anyone else does that. My best friend in high school moved to another state, and we started writing long letters to each other, swapping a little news but mostly debating religion. (He'd become an agnostic at about the time I became a religious fanatic.) When Pr

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 22:07:05 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >And, I have worked for companies that required you to leave all the >previous emails being quoted. > That's what archives are for. That's what "In-Reply-To:" headers are for. A companiy having such a concern should provide a viewer that sho

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) The point being that they were using a standard

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) > Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required. Back when I started using Thunderbird as an

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) I'm no fan of Outlook, but top-posting doesn't bother me either. When it's necessary to address points, I say, see below. At least Outlook has HTML, so I generally change the font/color of my interleaved respo

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) I'm kind of rabid about including options in the programs I write, pretty much any option I can think might be useful if it isn't too hard to write in. How can ~I

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm kind of rabid about including options in the programs I write, pretty much any option I can think might be useful if it isn't too hard to write in. How can ~I~ know what the user will find useful? So if I can ask, that's great, but sometimes it's not possible. Maybe Microsoft overdoes it

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
pdf.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) > Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required. Back when I started using Thunderbird as an email client (a

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
son.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) Wait - is bottom-posting a

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
urday, June 13, 2020 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) I'm no fan of Outlook, but top-posting doesn't bother me either. When it's necessary to address points, I say, see below. At least Outlook has HTML, so I generally chan

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
nframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? I will bet I

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:17:11 +, Jackson, Rob wrote: >My cruddy email application (Outlook) doesn't do the >-style quoting (or at >least I don't know how to make it), so let me try below with tabs; it will

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Le 13/06/2020 à 22:13, Tony Thigpen a écrit : >> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? > Also, back in those days, it was clearly pointed out to the developers > that their "so called" standard was for newsgroups, not email but they > were stuck deep in their "we know what is right" mode. They also ig

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required. Back when I started using Thunderbird as an email client (around 2002?), TB forced you to bottom-post and it took a special hidden option to allow top-posting. And, it did not really work

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:21:19AM -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? > I will bet I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail > replies in my life and every single one of them was "top-posted." Business: building roads too fa

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Jackson, Rob
s in red." First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) [External Email. Exer

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2020-06-13, at 11:21:19, Charles Mills wrote: > > What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? > In some part tradition. > I will bet I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail replies in my > life and every single one of them was "top-posted." > > What is

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jun 13, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: > > Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I've always assumed that bottom-posters > are just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their > responses without thinking about where. Are you saying that some people post > at th

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I've always assumed that bottom-posters are just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their responses without thinking about where. Are you saying that some people post at the bottom ON PURPOSE?! Why, for heaven's sake? --- Bob Bridg

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Jackson, Rob
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... ) [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] What

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Jackson, Rob
7;s all audit; don't even get me started on Domain Policies. First Horizon Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Quote st

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Charles Mills
uff -- the new stuff -- at the BOTTOM??? I *like* Outlook. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Quote style (was: ... P

Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:17:11 +, Jackson, Rob wrote: >My cruddy email application (Outlook) doesn't do the >-style quoting (or at >least I don't know how to make it), so let me try below with tabs; it will >probably be ugly. > Does First Horizon require you to use Outlook? I mostly post from