On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 02:49:12PM -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
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[...]
> But I wouldn't VMS is a mainframe in any current sense, especially since it
> only currently exists for a dead hardware platform. And it's not maintained
> by HP or HPE, but by VMS Software, Inc. (which makes some of us laug
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:29:51PM +0200, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2018-07-11 o 20:07, Tom Marchant pisze:
> >On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:06:59 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> >
> > >BTW, would it count as a mainframe if I ran one inside emulator
> > >on PC?
> >Sure, if you can emulate 170 processors, 32 TB of
R.S. wrote:
>Take care, current PC servers can have more memory than mainframe. It have
been true for at least 10->15 years.
>Current PC do support 32Gbps FC and 40Gbps or 100Gbps LAN NIC. How many?
Enough.
>I can't tell current processor limits, but it is at least half of
mainframe.
>Last, but
W dniu 2018-07-11 o 20:07, Tom Marchant pisze:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:06:59 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
BTW, would it count as a mainframe if I ran one inside emulator on PC?
Sure, if you can emulate 170 processors, 32 TB of main memory, 320 FICON
channels, and robust error handling.
There is
Tomasz Rola wrote:
>Perhaps they mean VAX and Alpha-based computers - I believe those had
>been acquired from DEC via Compaq and they (HP) were supporting both
>VAXen and Alphas, at least before the split.
Well, Alpha as an architecture is long dead, though I'm sure some are still
running.
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:06:59 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>BTW, would it count as a mainframe if I ran one inside emulator on PC?
Sure, if you can emulate 170 processors, 32 TB of main memory, 320 FICON
channels, and robust error handling.
There is much more to a mainframe than the instruction set
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 09:02:41PM -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
> David W Noon wrote:
>
[...]
> >A lot of the old EDS mainframers were made redundant because HP felt the
>
> >mainframe was dead. The mainframe now helps to keep HPE alive.
>
>
>
> How's that? HPE NonStop isn't a mainframe. x86
I was at EDS ("worked at" doesn't quite cover it, "belonged to" is closer)
in the early 80s, at the Forest Lane campus. Never actually met HRP, but
did bump into him a couple of times. It was a big transition time for my
career, moving from operator to tech. support to systems programming.
Like
I worked for Packard Electric in Warren, Ohio when GM bought EDS. They
transitioned most of us to the Charlotte data center. Took a couple of years. I
was in Ops at the time but transitioned to development staying in Warren,
graduated from college, and left EDS in 1988. Been a long and winding r
Another note re EDS/HP/HPE/DXC: there's a road near me called EDS Drive
(which at least one GPS vocalizes as "Ed's Drive", which makes me laugh).
There's a big building there that was EDS (doh). Then it was HP. Then it was
HPE. Then it was DXC.
Last time I drove by, the DXC logo that had been
On 7/6/2018 7:18 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Holy crap, now there is a blast from my EDS past. I was a member of the first
GM/EDS transition back in Feb 23, 1986.
I am ex-EDS too...1976 to 1978, back when Ross Perot still gave a speech
to each graduating SED class...
...I would like to know wh
Holy crap, now there is a blast from my EDS past. I was a member of the first
GM/EDS transition back in Feb 23, 1986.
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On Friday, July 6, 2018, 5:55 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
What a long strange journey for EDS. Who owns WAAPDSUT now?
TGIF,
sas
What a long strange journey for EDS. Who owns WAAPDSUT now?
TGIF,
sas
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And some have gone on to become Perspecta. It is a merger of Vencore, Keypoint
and the USPS part of DXC.
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R.S. wrote:
>What about
Clark Morris wrote:
>The Tandem series successors are now on Intel Xeon or Itanium chips
>depending on the line and with HPE as of today, July 5, 2018.
Correct. The HPE NonStop X is the Xeon version. Easy for us IBM old-timers
to remember: X = x86. The Itanium Kittson was the last version of
R.S. wrote:
>What about EDS?
>To my knowledge EDS was bought by HP before HP - HPE split and it was part
of HPE. Is it now part of DXC?
Right. All the (surviving) ex-EDS folks went to HPE and then to DXC.
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W dniu 2018-07-03 o 23:56, Phil Smith III pisze:
OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
In the beginning, there was Hewlett-Packard, or HP. And HP was formless and
huge, and darkness was upon the stock.
And the Board made a decision: split the company! And thus was
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OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on
Rob Schramm wrote:
>Does that include HPE mainframe consulting? I think that the old HP did
>contracts for Mainframe work.
Yes, EDS/HP Global Services/HPE Services/(now) DXC do mainframe outsourcing
and consulting. Definitely not part of HPE any more!
As an HPE software division with mai
Does that include HPE mainframe consulting? I think that the old HP did
contracts for Mainframe work.
Rob Schramm
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 11:54 AM Phil Smith III wrote:
> David W Noon wrote:
>
> > Last I heard, HPE was still running some big iron to support "legacy"
> > applications.
>
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> Pos
David W Noon wrote:
> Last I heard, HPE was still running some big iron to support "legacy"
> applications.
Possibly, but I suspect those went with the ex-EDS folks. The internal stuff
(not that I've seen it other than as an end-user) seems to be all
Microsoft-based.
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:02:41 -0400, Phil Smith Iii (li...@akphs.com)
wrote about "Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus" (in
<00a201d41332$b65763a0$23062ae0$@akphs.com>):
> David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
>> A lot of the old EDS mainframers were made redundant because HP felt the
&
David W Noon wrote:
>Some of my old work-mates went: EDS==>HP==>out-the-door.
No doubt! As did a lot of other folks.
>A lot of the old EDS mainframers were made redundant because HP felt the
>mainframe was dead. The mainframe now helps to keep HPE alive.
How's that? HPE NonStop isn't
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 17:56:08 -0400, Phil Smith Iii (li...@akphs.com)
wrote about "Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus" (in
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> So some folks went: HP==>HPE==>DXC; some went HP==>HPE==>Micro Focus; some
> went just HP==&g
And don’t be confused by HP on the American stock market. That’s Helmerich and
Payne, an oil services company. Hewlett-Packard is HPQ.
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On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 5:56 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
In th
Phil Smith III wrote:
OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
In the beginning, there was Hewlett-Packard, or HP. And HP was formless and
huge, and darkness was upon the stock.
You didn't start with oscillators? :) That reminds me, I need to grab my
dad's old one which is st
Phil Smith III wrote:
>OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
{ lots of "thingamajig things" snipped }
Urgh! I (as a kid) can't pay attention to what you wrote, but will not blame
you of course. ;-)
I will just STFU and monitor IBM-MAIN and other news reels for more info...
Love it!
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 5:56 PM Phil Smith III wrote:
> OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
>
>
>
> In the beginning, there was Hewlett-Packard, or HP. And HP was formless and
> huge, and darkness was upon the stock.
>
>
>
> And the Board made a decision: split the c
OK, kids, pay attention, because this will be on the exam.
In the beginning, there was Hewlett-Packard, or HP. And HP was formless and
huge, and darkness was upon the stock.
And the Board made a decision: split the company! And thus was born Hewlett
Packard Enterprise (HPE)-no hyphen, and p
, to become
DXC.
Charles
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HPE ?
That’s odd I thought HPE
HPE ?
That’s odd I thought HPE merged with CSC and became DXC ??
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I agree. However, I think the need to sell SUSE has everything to do with
the trouble Microfocus is in since the HP acquisition.
Rob Schramm
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:18 PM Charles Mills wrote
y just sold one part of that for $2.5B.
>
> Wish I was that smart.
>
> Charles
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https://itsfoss.com/suse-eqt-acquisition/
Can anyone spell "we need cash"?
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