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on 09/05/2013
at 12:45 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:
Who are you to determine the needs of the user (whom you are
[supposedly] supporting).
There's only one user at your shop? Or
In 3044928827063159.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
09/05/2013
at 08:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but to checkpoint the
job when it reaches the limlt and allow the user to insert more
coins and continue?
Submit a
Hi
I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several
hundred tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need some simple tool to manage this:
- submit again and again , only a a limited number of jobs.
- if a job
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Hi
I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several
hundred tests jobs, for different application tests
check the return codes.
Cheers
Michael
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Datum: 2013-09-05 08:57
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Hi
I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred
tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need some simple tool to manage this:
- submit again
W dniu 2013-09-05 08:57, Miklos Szigetvari pisze:
Hi
I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several
hundred tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need some simple tool to manage this:
- submit again and
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several hundred
tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need some simple tool to manage this:
- submit again and again , only a a limited number
Thruput Manager plus any of the standard sysout archival tools (CA-VIEW, LRS
PAGECENTER,.) ?
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I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several
hundred tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need
Subject: Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool
What is the problem:
Hundreds of jobs in the input Q? That does not cost much, add some jobnumbers
and trackgroups.
The output of the jobs? If they produce large reports, force them to write
those to disk datasets and use SMF exits to add
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Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad practice.
Who are you
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Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad
On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:11 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
Or the other way round: the users can get all the spoolspace they want, when
they pay it. Only the sun rises for free, as we say here.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but to checkpoint the
job when it reaches the limlt
On 9/5/2013 7:30 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:58:11 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
Or the other way round: the users can get all the spoolspace they want, when
they pay it. Only the sun rises for free, as we say here.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able not to ABEND, but
W dniu 2013-09-05 14:45, Ted MacNEIL pisze:
Cancelling a job due to lines exceeded is, generally, bad practice.
No, it is very good practice. Of course devil is in the details, I'm
don't mean restrictive, small values, rather fuse protecting whole JES
against SPOOL space exhaustion. I did met
If you have an automation product, then you can use it to take the action
needed. You could trigger off of the job submitted rate or the JES number of
lines exceeded message. You could place jobs on hold.
Jon Perryman.
From: Miklos Szigetvari
http://syzygyinc.com/SyzSpool.htm
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If you
On 09/05/2013 03:01 AM, R.S. wrote:
W dniu 2013-09-05 08:57, Miklos Szigetvari pisze:
Hi
I have the problem, some of our users, submits, time to time several
hundred tests jobs, for different application tests.
It fills the spool, difficult to handle etc etc .
I would need some simple tool
Thank you for answers, I agree with the suggestions , increase the SPOOL
size, and/or use
some external writer, or short term SYSOUT classes.
Unfortunately currently I'm not in the position to make this changes,or
persuade the user to change his jobs, but in the
SUBMIT job I can change the
Sorry for the marketing spiel, but we market system automation products that do
everything that has been discussed in this thread so far. We also have a spool
management product that would allow you to automatically offload the output
based on any of a great number of factors, from the number
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