On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:49:42 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:
Just catching up after a few days away from IBM-MAIN. I'm sure you've had
lots of responses by now.
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank
characters for a regularly used volume?
I was pleased by EJ's response.
Moreover, it seems to me that ISVs, and thus Phoenix Software a
fortiori, are commercial shops. It is not necessary to be a
retrograde bank or insurance company to qualify as one.
I have often inveighed here against what I take to be reactionary,
fatuous,
On 3/14/2014 10:49 AM, John McKown wrote:
There is a thread over on TSO-REXX about splitting up a string into
volume serials. This has occasioned two questions to me.
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank
characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any
On 16/03/2014 2:53 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
CA-1's support of non-number tape serials was difficult (needed some sort
of mapping exit as I recall).
Yes, because management got thousands of tape labels printed for the new
MVS system before the sysprogs heard about it.
Details? Does the exit
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:53:19 +1100, Greg Price wrote:
The reason for the non-numeric characters?
Management thought it might be nice if the first two characters were
alphabetics forming a common abbreviation of the corporation name.
SMP/E product tapes are 2 letters and 4 digits, aren't they?
John McKown writes:
There is a thread over on TSO-REXX about splitting up a string into
volume serials. This has occasioned two questions to me.
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank
characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any trailing blanks?
RACF
Gil,
While the exits are not needed if the volser has alpha/numeric on the left and
all numerics on the right; the exits are still available. And we have worked up
the 01-01 ranges, as well as the base-16 ranges. The client wanting
base 36 (0-Z) decided against it after seeing how
On 15/03/2014 4:49 AM, John McKown wrote:
2) Has any commercial shop ever used non-numeric tape volume serials for
normal in-house tapes? If so, why? I ask because, at least historically,
CA-1's support of non-number tape serials was difficult (needed some sort
of mapping exit as I recall).
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 02:16:34 +1100, Greg Price wrote:
On 15/03/2014 4:49 AM, John McKown wrote:
2) Has any commercial shop ever used non-numeric tape volume serials for
normal in-house tapes? If so, why? I ask because, at least historically,
One plausible reason is a library containing over a
Tape labels are a baroque, even roccoco subject, about which I have
had to learn more than I wanted to know over the years.
The best [and only current] source for information about them is not
the JCL manual; it is the publication z/OS DSFMS using magnetic tapes,
newly numbered SC23-6858-00 for
John,
1) If you code VOL=SER=1234,UNIT= does that mean it is leading blanks or
trailing blanks? In either case, CA 1 will support both 4-character volsers and
5-character volsers.
2) Boy, when was the last time you worked with CA 1? Must have been about 15
years ago if you don't know
There is a thread over on TSO-REXX about splitting up a string into
volume serials. This has occasioned two questions to me.
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank
characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any trailing blanks?
2) Has any commercial shop ever
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There is a thread over on TSO
W dniu 2014-03-14 18:49, John McKown pisze:
There is a thread over on TSO-REXX about splitting up a string into
volume serials. This has occasioned two questions to me.
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank
characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any
John McKown wrote:
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank characters
for a regularly used volume? Especially any trailing blanks?
Not me. Is it possible to have those weird VOLSERs?
2) Has any commercial shop ever used non-numeric tape volume serials for
normal
ISTR that CA used to (since the 80s) distribute their installation tapes
with alpha plus numeric volsers. I recall that the volser reflected the
version/mod level of the product.
On 3/14/2014 1:22 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
John McKown wrote:
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which
Wasn't able to find a architectual requirement for MVS vol sers via search
at IBM.
But can report I just initialized DASD volumes with the names of 'K' and
'0' (zero). MVS doesn't seem to care but other components might.
Ken
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:07 PM, R.S.
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Subject: Re: curious: volsers 6 non-blank chars non-numeric tape
Wasn't able to find a architectual requirement for MVS vol sers via search
at IBM.
But can report I just initialized DASD volumes with the names of 'K' and
'0' (zero). MVS doesn't seem to care but other
On 14 March 2014 13:49, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Has anybody ever had a VOLSER which was not exactly 6 non-blank
characters for a regularly used volume? Especially any trailing blanks?
Decades ago the university I worked at had a standard of N and
F for Native
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Non-numeric volsers with CA-1 from the beginning when they bought it from
Uccel. Can't say why because it was before my time. I did install
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:01:27 -0400, Joe Testa wrote:
From the JCL reference manual for the DD statement:
[volume] serial-number subparameters (1 - 255):
volume serial numbers (1 - 6 alphanumeric, $, #, @, or special characters)
On 3/14/2014 3:43 PM, Ken Smith wrote:
Wasn't able to find a architectual requirement for MVS vol sers via search
at IBM.
When a job calls for an unlabeled scratch, the tape is referred to as
Ln
Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, Vermont
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