Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f393f47ecbe9fc4aa71b2a242c0b689512f3880...@hfdpmsgcms01.aeth.aetna.com, on 02/09/2011 at 09:46 AM, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com said: The only problem with not limiting the region below is if you have a job that does a variable length getmain to take all available storage and then

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread McKown, John
We ignore it entirely by overriding via the IEFUSI exit. REGION is basically useless in this day and age, especially for batch. For UNIX work, it may be needed. And for some types of started tasks, such as DB2 (which we don't have), it can still be very necessary. -- John McKown Systems

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:04:27 -0500, Haynes, Stan stan.hay...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote: We run a 4-system production sysplex using z/OS/JES2 1.11 augmented by Thruput Manager. As a result of an application area reporting one of their critical jobs abending S822 (issue since corrected), we found

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Larry Macioce
What about region=0m?? From what I remember it will take what is needed, the down side is if you have something run away(loop) you might be in trouble. Mace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Rob Schramm
I worked at a place that had a similar setup with 8M. It was set artificially low because there were a bunch of assembler programs in the shop that did a variable getmains to give them everything below the line. By setting it to 8M, it meant that they couldn't get everything below the line and

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Macioce Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size What about region=0m?? From what I remember it will take what is needed, the down side is if you

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Zelden
for the dataset control blocks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Macioce Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size What about region=0m?? From what I remember it will take

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Haynes, Stan We run a 4-system production sysplex using z/OS/JES2 1.11 augmented by Thruput Manager. As a result of an application area reporting one of their critical jobs abending S822 (issue since corrected),

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com wrote: The only problem with not limiting the region below is if you have a job that does a variable length getmain to take all available storage and then opens a lot of datasets you can get errors due to not enough below

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Donnelly, John P
How was the S822 corrected? We get this occasionally and just drain and restart the failing initiator... Our JOBCLASS is set to 4M... John Donnelly National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 408-721-5640 408-470-8364 Cell cjp...@nsc.com

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:04:27 -0500, Haynes, Stan wrote: As a result of an application area reporting one of their critical jobs abending S822 (issue since corrected), we found ourselves noticing a very old parm value: default REGION size for all classes via the JOBCLASS statement. It's still

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
Is there any reason why you're not using the VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS parameter in your DIAGxx member Mark Jacobs On 02/09/11 11:26, Donnelly, John P wrote: How was the S822 corrected? We get this occasionally and just drain and restart the failing initiator... Our JOBCLASS is set to 4M... John

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
, February 09, 2011 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size How was the S822 corrected? We get this occasionally and just drain and restart the failing initiator... Our JOBCLASS is set to 4M... John Donnelly National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Haynes, Stan
, 2011 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size Is there any reason why you're not using the VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS parameter in your DIAGxx member Mark Jacobs On 02/09/11 11:26, Donnelly, John P wrote: How was the S822 corrected? We get this occasionally and just drain

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- We run a 4-system production sysplex using z/OS/JES2 1.11 augmented by Thruput Manager. As a result of an application area reporting one of their critical jobs abending S822 (issue since corrected), we found ourselves

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:28:36 -0500, Haynes, Stan stan.hay...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote: The issue with how much *low* private to allow is ensuring RTM can successfully GETMAIN, so I'm wondering: if we change the default to 128M, or 192M, etc, do we need to subtract some vstor for the low private ?

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:28:36 -0500, Haynes, Stan stan.hay...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote: The issue with how much *low

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Rob Schramm
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:28:36 -0500, Haynes, Stan stan.hay...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote: The issue with how much *low* private to allow is ensuring RTM can

Re: Default REGION Size

2011-02-09 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
09, 2011 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Default REGION Size I think there is a product to do this kind of stuff. OESM or something along those lines. I did a quick web search and obviously I don't have the right name. Rob On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Veilleux, Jon