Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-22 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list

with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ?


Not a clue what tool you're talking about, nor is it clear what portal 
you're using for ordering PTFs, although I suspect SRD.


However, you can avoid this issue entirely by using either SMP/E RECEIVE 
ORDER, or ShopzSeries with a software inventory file (bitmap).  The 
bitmap file is produced using program GIMXSID.  This file describes the 
FMID and PTF content of your target and global zones.  For ShopzSeries, 
you run GIMXSID, upload the file and ShopzSeries uses it to determine 
the PTFs you already have and which pre-reqs you need delivered. 
RECEIVE ORDER does this automatically.  Therefore, you never get your 
requested PTF without also getting the necessary pre-reqs.


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Staller, Allan
This is common if you are far backleveled on your maint. The online
order process only seems to go back one level when you request pre-reqs.
Those pre-reqs may have additional pre-reqs so you will need to order
those separately.

If you have the time, you can do the research yourself with the aid of
IBMLINK (when available) and only place one order. I have found it
faster to order what I want to install, run an applycheck, and place
another order for any missing pre-reqs. I have *never* had to go past a
total of three orders to get all necessary maint.

HTH,


snip
Several times I have ordered PTF's (for example for DB2), over Internet 
with all the PREREQ's  and got several 100 Mbytes.
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list
with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ?
Can we get this somehow  ?
/snip

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Wickman
Maybe EPSPT.  It is available as a download.

Mike

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Hi

If we are here:

Several times I have ordered PTF's (for example for DB2), over Internet 
with all the PREREQ's  and got several 100 Mbytes.
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list
with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ?
Can we get this somehow  ?

Dean Montevago wrote:

If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP
instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest
of
the steps to upload and unwind it ? 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Electronic order of PTF


My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows
it 
is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

Jerry

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Staller, Allan
 
 This is common if you are far backleveled on your maint. The 
 online order process only seems to go back one level when you 
 request pre-reqs.

When I queried their helpdesk about that, the tech said that if no
maintenance level is specified on the order, the default is to search
back 90 days.

-jc-

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Dean Montevago
Isn't a prereq a prereq and required not matter what ?

To order a few fixes I like the SRD approach, I haven't had any problems
with it. Yes, I did have to go back and order additional fixes that were
missing but it really doesn't bother me. We upload our CSI's
preiodically so when we order maintenance to do an upgrade IBM has our
latest CSI.

When we were planning for a zIIP the PSP tool was very useful.

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Subject: Re: Electronic order of PTF


Hi

If we are here:

Several times I have ordered PTF's (for example for DB2), over Internet 
with all the PREREQ's  and got several 100 Mbytes.
After I was unable to install, as some PREREQ were missing etc etc , I 
asked the IBM to help, and they provided a list
with some tool , which contained only the really necessary PREREQ's
Somebody knows about his tool ? Can we get this somehow  ?

Dean Montevago wrote:

If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP 
instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest 
of the steps to upload and unwind it ?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Jerry Fuchs
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Electronic order of PTF


My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows 
it is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

Jerry

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/21/2008 10:13:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

followup mentions RECEIVE ORDER / RECEIVE FROMNETWORK.   Wouldn't
that be the technique with the fewest steps to receive  maintenance
electronically from IBM?



Probably, but that wasn't the  question.
 
Via the electronic profile on Service link you  can request
how, how often and level of PTFs sent. It can  be monthly PUT,
ESO, RSU or  'Tested'. 
 
I logged in after that late news last night  and IBM-main was down-sent 
Darren a note and went to bed. Don't know how long  it lasted other than it was 
back up this morning.  







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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:39:01 -0400, Dean Montevago wrote:

If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP
instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest of
the steps to upload and unwind it ? 

Never having done this, I'm curious:  Neither your followup nor
the previous one mentions RECEIVE ORDER / RECEIVE FROMNETWORK.
Are these not the preferred techniques?  They would certainly
seem to involve the fewest steps.

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My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows it 
is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-20 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/20/2008 2:32:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows  it 
is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?



 
Follow instructions in the order! FTP to download site with onetime  userid 
password, Unterse, Receive. 







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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-20 Thread Dean Montevago
If it's marked shipped in SRD, click on it and there will be FTP
instructions to download it to your workstation. Do you have the rest of
the steps to upload and unwind it ? 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jerry Fuchs
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Electronic order of PTF


My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows
it 
is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

Jerry

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Re: Electronic order of PTF

2008-05-20 Thread Brian France
I'm ass/u/me/ing this is from IBM. You should get to emails, the 
second one gives you the site to go to other info on how to download it.


At 03:23 PM 5/20/2008, Jerry Fuchs wrote:

My co-worker just ordered electronically a PTF. The order status shows it
is ready.

OK. Now how do I get it?

Jerry

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