Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-08 Thread Galambos, Robert
: Third Party Tool Usage If one of you 3rd parties is Compuware, they have a built in bit of code.. just ask them.. On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/08, Elliot, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try EventAction form http://www.ACTIONSOFTWARE.com

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
See: Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/license-compliance-mgr/ Although it might cost more than you will save! :-) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacky Bright

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Staller, Allan
snip We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are looking to remove some unused tools so

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Big Iron
SMF type 14s can not be relied on for STEPLIB or JOBLIB concatenations. I believe that only the open for the first dataset in a concatenation is recorded when programs are being loaded. Also, I think that useful information about access to datasets in linklist or lpalist would not be available

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Jacky Bright wrote: We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? As part of cost cutting exercise during MF upgrade we are

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Staller, Allan
RACF Logging? snip SMF type 14s can not be relied on for STEPLIB or JOBLIB concatenations. I believe that only the open for the first dataset in a concatenation is recorded when programs are being loaded. Also, I think that useful information about access to datasets in linklist or lpalist would

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Dave Salt
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:25:35 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have many 3rd party tools in our maiframe estate like CA , BMC , IBM etc. Is there any sysstem utiltiy by which we can come to know which tool has not been used over a long period of time ? Some tools have a

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think the only true options is to create RACF dataset profiles for each of the libraries and then AUDIT those profiles. SMF usage data may not work because it doesn't show the concatenated datasets, on the first dataset in the concatenation. There are packages out there. Some expensive; some

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:37:18 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the only true options is to create RACF dataset profiles for each of the libraries and then AUDIT those profiles. SMF usage data may not work because it doesn't show the concatenated datasets, on the first dataset in

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Those are the same thing. SoftAudit (note spelling) is the former name for IBM Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS. Former vendor was Isogon. Okay. It was cheap when ISOGON sold it. The reason I called it SOFAUDIT was because that was the name in the PGM= field (softaudit is 9

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Elliot, David
FWIW A situation I have been faced with many times. If the product is contained in its own library and not on the linklist then a security product audit should give the required usage. Also the SMF type 30 record will provide information at least about the lead module executed which should be

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Itschak Mugzach
On 9/5/08, Elliot, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try EventAction form http://www.ACTIONSOFTWARE.com/. One of the features of this good product is the ability to track software usage with (almost) zero cpu consumption. Itschak FWIW A situation I have been faced with many times. If

Re: Third Party Tool Usage

2008-09-05 Thread Peter G
If one of you 3rd parties is Compuware, they have a built in bit of code.. just ask them.. On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/08, Elliot, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try EventAction form