Tim
I was not suggesting that you use SDSF - just confirming that SDSF uses SSI-54
to gather that information rather than JES control block chasing.
One advantage of SSI-54 is that you can direct to a secondary JES subsystem.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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You need directory search (x) permission for every directory in the path in
order to access a file or subdirectory with a known name.
So in your example, the user must have search (x) permission on all of
these:
/u
/u/dvfjs
/u/dvfjs/rocket
/u/dvfjs/rocket/bin
Kirk Wolf
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at
Greetings,
I have some cross-memory code written many years ago.
It uses the ASVT to get the ASID of various address spaces and then uses the
ASID in a SSAR to establish a cross-memory link (having first issued an
AXSET AX=ONE).
All works fine until faced with an address space with a reusable
My programmers have gotten pretty good with CEEDUMPs for their COBOL errors.
And, when our COBOL invokes Syncsort with RC16= ABE and IOERR = NOABE we
do get a CEEDUMP.
I have TERMTHDACT(DUMP,CESE,256) for my LE parms
Would setting DFSORT ESTAE=NO let the CEEDUMP happen. I see
Unknown, since I tested it only with both bits set.
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Yep. Thanks.
Can you explain the difference between executing a script that executes the
program, which requires this, while running the program directly (with a fully
qualified path) does not?
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ASSBISQN
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:04:26 - Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
<032fff1be9b4-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
:>I have some cross-memory code written many years ago.
:>It uses the ASVT to get the ASID of various address spaces and then uses the
:>ASID in a SSAR to establish a
Thank you Binyamin.
After posting I had found the ASTE1IN which looks to be the same value as
ASSBISQN, but is not a programming interface. Looks like your answer is
better.
Lennie
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> not just to _find_ the node, but we want to use the node name
Not sure I understand your point. Once you find the node name you are free to
copy it to one or more variables in your program and use it however you choose.
> IEFSSREQ and/or control block chain chaining why are they better than
Hey David,
Thank you for rescuing this thread from the ash heap of old hardware model
numbers and tape formats :-)
We already have on our list to add ISPF-style enqueue serialization to
putpds. It just didn't make the first release.
Currently putpds allocates the data set with DISP=OLD (SYSDSN
I don't know, but if anybody has copies of any of. e.g., the Share projects
mods tapes, I urge you to make them known to the CBTtape and Hercules
communities.
Thanks.
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:36:26 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Did you need the read bit on the entire path, or only the execute bit?
>
It should depend on whether the path involves a wildcard expansion.
And /path/to/script requires execute permission on script;
sh /path/to/script does not.
-- gil
Did you need the read bit on the entire path, or only the execute bit?
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To:
If you can export the cert in z/OS then you ought to be able to use one of the
RACF certificate displays to determine who signed it.
I _think_ you can export this in Base64 format, move it to Windows as text, and
import it into the Windows certificate store.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:16 AM Frank Swarbrick <
frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Yep. Thanks.
>
> Can you explain the difference between executing a script that executes
> the program, which requires this, while running the program directly (with
> a fully qualified path) does not?
>
>
What about submit command you can use
IKJTSOEV to set up a tso environment in a batch job and then use the tso
service routine
L. rX,CVTPTR
L Rx,CVTTVT(,RX)
L. Rx,TSVTASF-TSVT(RX)
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:37 PM, John McKown wrote:
>
> We did something like that before we had CA-7
JES2 at the z/OS 2.4 level has a $SUBMIT command, with the infrastructure to
dynamically add datasets and such to use for job submission. The commands
manual has information about it.
Mark Jacobs
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> Thank you, I had read this. I expect that doing this will return me
> to the CEEDUMP behavior I had the other sort product. I was hoping
> for an option where the DFSORT termination would continue on to the
> LE termination. That was my specific question. Will, or can I get the
CEEDUMP?
Dave,
Subject to security constraints.
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[Default] On 18 Nov 2020 15:56:00 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
skol...@us.ibm.com (Sri h Kolusu) wrote:
>> Thank you, I had read this. I expect that doing this will return me
>> to the CEEDUMP behavior I had the other sort product. I was hoping
>> for an option where the DFSORT termination
Also, You can enter SUB next to the member name while in ISPF. Just enter SUB
vs. B or E or V
Subject: Re: Is there a JES2 command to submit a job?
I do something like that for my personal stuff. And it is good in that you can
have a separate crontab for submitting different jobs with
Hi Charles,
All of the previous responses did not address your situation.
Here is a solution that only old-timers like myself would think of:
S
RDR,DSN=mypds(mymember),UNIT=,VOL=,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920),DISP=SHR
RDR is available in SYs1.PROCLIB and has been since dinosaurs
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:39:33 -0600, John McKown wrote:
> most z/OS people
>are still fairly ignorant of z/OS UNIX and are reluctant to use it. A few
>years ago I had another sysprog complain about it because, in his words,
>"It isn't Windows!"
>
What's z/OS? Chopped liver or Windows?
On
Thanks. Looks perfect. $T SUBMITLIB to set it up.
Unfortunately, environment is V2R3.
Charles
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Thank you, I had read this. I expect that doing this will return me to the
CEEDUMP behavior I had the other sort product. I was hoping for an option where
the DFSORT termination would continue on to the LE termination. That was my
specific question. Will, or can I get the CEEDUMP?
I still
Is there a JES2 command to submit a job from a PDS or PROCLIB, roughly
analogous to TSO SUBMIT?
I want to run a predefined job, unmodified, once a day. (No, I don't have a
real scheduler.) I figured I could do something with $T A,I=86400,'command'
but I don't see what the command would be. It
I do something like that for my personal stuff. And it is good in that you
can have a separate crontab for submitting different jobs with different
RACF IDs. The only "problem" is, unless I am out of date, most z/OS people
are still fairly ignorant of z/OS UNIX and are reluctant to use it. A
Thanks. This will work. Kind of convoluted -- a $T A command to issue a $VS
command to issue an S command to start an STC that submits a job, but hey, it's
mainframe. If it was easy we wouldn't get the big bucks.
Idle musing: why doesn't JES2 have a command to submit a job, either from a
named
> Is there a JES2 command to submit a job from a PDS or PROCLIB, roughly
> analogous to TSO SUBMIT?
Charles,
You can use the SCHEDULE command to run the job at a particular time. Here
is a detailed explanation of the parms along with examples
>Would setting DFSORT ESTAE=NO let the CEEDUMP happen. I see the
> odds of having an application data error to be much larger that an
> actual problem with DFSORT
Dave,
You can use NOESTAE to turn off DFSORT ESTAE processing.
//DFSPARM DD *
DEBUG NOABEND,NOESTAE
/*
Check this link which
RACDCERT LISTCHN will show the whole signing chain. For the Windows client you
do not need any intermediate certificates, nor do you need the server
certificate*, you just need the root certificate.
*Unless it is self-signed, in which case it IS (also) its own root certificate.
If you do not
We did something like that before we had CA-7 (actually Runtrack). We used
the $TA command to start a task which then submitted the actual JCL. The
started task JCL looked something like:
//OPER PROC JOBLIB=PROD.JOBS.JCLLIB,MEMBER=NOTHING
//OPER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
//SYSPRINT DD
Obvious answer: because HASP is Half ASP. But you don't need a JES2 command;
IBM provides a proc called RDR that copies its input to an internal reader.
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I guess I'm asking if IEFSSREQ is somehow better than AMASYMBF for retrieving
the node value.
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On 2020-11-18, at 10:16:41, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
>
> Can you explain the difference between executing a script that executes the
> program, which requires this, while running the program directly (with a
> fully qualified path) does not?
>
I can hardly imagine a case where a program with a
As nobody else has replied, my guess is that the z/OS USS Rexx
implementation required this persistence of the Rexx environment. In USS
you create the Rexx environment first with a call to BPXWRBLD which calls
IRXINIT under the covers and returns. Then your USS application can do a
series of
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:00:59 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Is there a JES2 command to submit a job from a PDS or PROCLIB, roughly
>analogous to TSO SUBMIT?
>
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bpxa400/jclsub.htm
plus crontab
>I vaguely recall there is a
The classic way is to use a reader proc, traditionally named RDR, which may
well still be included in z/OS. But usually a variation that reads members
from a PDS is more useful.
Check out // SCHEDULE TIME= in JCL. I use it all the time.
sas
Right! I remember that. I remember that was how you ran anything. You started a
real reader: it fired up the 2540 and read in the job. And then you did a S WTR
(?) to print the output. OS/360 on a 360/40.
Sometimes nostalgia actually is the answer.
Charles
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Available in V2R3!
Charles
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Thanks. Looks
ESPIE only catches program checks, it doesn't catch ABENDs. A COBOL program can
get an ABEND not related to a program check.
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h Kolusu
Sent:
> In the case my programmers found, there was a call for a user abend
> with value of 36. As I think on this, I have no idea for sure that
> behavior from Syncsort would have been different.
Dave,
I believe I sent out the migration documents which lists the equivalent
parms for DFSORT. In this
I have hat set per the instructions. I really am now leaning towards my
programmers wouldn't have got the CEEDUMP in this case, has they still been
using the other sort product.
But, since DFSORT is new, it is a viable culprit. And, really, the program's
diagnostic messages should have been
Again, with our downsizing, and nearing EOL of my systems, I need to drop
VPS and DRS.
I am looking at the base IBM support in this area, The AOP. stuff.
Has anyone else done this? A Redbook by chance?
And, yes, I know about McKinney and in some ways wish we'd gone there a
couple decades
In the case my programmers found, there was a call for a user abend with value
of 36. As I think on this, I have no idea for sure that behavior from Syncsort
would have been different. I have no idea when the last time this condition
occurred such that the program on question issued the
Thank you and understood about the different environments.
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> > Thank you, I
We replaced VPS with NPF, the "free" component of CommServer (not AOP). We did
not have DRS, but we do print from CICS using virtual printers defined to
SuperSession. It was a hundred-some-odd printers, and there wasn't much to it.
On 18/11/2020 11:47 pm, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Hey David,
Thank you for rescuing this thread from the ash heap of old hardware model
numbers and tape formats :-)
Topic drift makes this forum almost unreadable these days!
We already have on our list to add ISPF-style enqueue serialization to
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