ehalf of
ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 2:46 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Not sure if it is still an issue, but SDSF SVC could be used to switch from
semmi authorized to superviser mode.
ITschak
בתאריך שבת, 1 ביוני 20
installation, not in z/OS.
> >
> > Now, when *IBM* fails to follow the statement of integrity, that *is* a
> z/OS vulnerability, but when is the last time that IBM refused to correct
> such an error when it was reported?
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gm
ay
Overby
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 2:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
In response to "Please note that an unprivileged application can still
have a dangerous back door that compromises, e.g., privacy, by giving a
d?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Wayne
Driscoll
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
If the trap door i
Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ray
Overby
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 2:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
In response to "Please note that an unprivileged application can still
have a dangerous back door that compro
of
Wayne Driscoll
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
If the trap door is in an APF authorized library, then by convention it's part
of the operating system, and would be considered a platform issue
opinions are strictly my own.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 2:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
> A single TRAP DOOR code vulnerabil
ersonnel and 3rd party providing OS changes and other privileged
code.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ray
Overby
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.
Thanks!
On 5/30/2019 9:20 AM, Ray Overby wrote:
ESM - External Security Manager. I use ESM when I am talking about ACF2,
RACF, and TSS.
On 5/30/2019 10:20 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread. I'll assume
that means "Enterprise Security Management",
ESM - External Security Manager. I use ESM when I am talking about ACF2,
RACF, and TSS.
On 5/30/2019 10:20 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread. I'll assume
that means "Enterprise Security Management", and I'll guess it refers
to security processes
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lou Losee
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Just because it has not been brought up and I think
IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lou
Losee
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Just because it has not been brought up and I think it is pertinent to this
discussion.
It is obvious that IBM
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf
> of R.S.
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:01 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
>
> As Shmuel said an application
: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
As Shmuel said an application with a trap door is an application
vulnerability.
Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS vulnerability, which
proves the platform is not immune. Is it as vulnerable as Windows? No,
because it's still
___
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ray
Overby
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
In response to "An application with a trap door is an application
vulnerability. If there
ERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread. I'll assume that means
"Enterprise Security Management", and I'll guess it refers to security
processes (not RACF), such as assigning userid's, mak
I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread. I'll assume that
means "Enterprise Security Management", and I'll guess it refers to
security processes (not RACF), such as assigning userid's, making sure
people have just the access they need, periodic audits, etc.
Am I even close?
On
Nobody said it was immune and you sell z security which is quite a conflict of
interest.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 9:17 AM, Ray Overby wrote:
In response to "Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS
vulnerability, which proves the platform is not
In response to "Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS
vulnerability, which proves the platform is not immune. Is it as
vulnerable as Windows? No, because it's still not binary, some systems
are still more secure than others."
In my opinion (I am biased) z/OS is the most secure-able
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM Schuffenhauer, Mark
wrote:
> My sales favorite was knowing key functionality is vaporware, talking up
> everything the software would do some day. Then being horrified when you
> realize the 'decision makers' are eating it up. None of them ends up in
> hell when
ason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ray
Overby
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
In response to "Mistakes, lack of time, lack of control, lack of skills
As Shmuel said an application with a trap door is an application
vulnerability.
Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS vulnerability, which
proves the platform is not immune. Is it as vulnerable as Windows? No,
because it's still not binary, some systems are still more secure than
Discussion List on behalf of
Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 7:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Thank you for the explanation. I can see that proxy access to other userid's
would need tight control, like
: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Radoslaw,
* I find your posts informative and helpful.
* I think your English is very understandable
* I respect your expertise
My initial post was an attempt to get a stalled discussion moving in a
more positive direction. I don't
ange to address a mainframe platform weakness
Partially.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ray
Overby
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re
AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
In response to "Mistakes, lack of time, lack of control, lack of skills.
Not a platform weakness." comment: The mainframe platform, z/OS, and ESM's all
rely on integrity to function. A s
In response to "Mistakes, lack of time, lack of control, lack of skills.
Not a platform weakness." comment: The mainframe platform, z/OS, and
ESM's all rely on integrity to function. A single TRAP DOOR code
vulnerability pierces the veil of integrity and can be used to
compromise the
Radoslaw,
* I find your posts informative and helpful.
* I think your English is very understandable
* I respect your expertise
My initial post was an attempt to get a stalled discussion moving in a
more positive direction. I don't normally post but I felt that mainframe
vulnerability
t;
> I'll entertain one more response from you before I place you in the
> virtual Anton Britz lookalike folder. Make it a good one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Tu
.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
I posted 3-4 links from varying sources all saying the same thing. Banks,
insurance, big retail all use the mainframe for approximately 3 major reasons,
one of which is security. Then Ray wants to show me some contr
Of R.S.
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 6:29 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
W dniu 2019-05-29 o 12:09, Richards, Robert B. pisze:
>> I'm still sure thank banks are less susceptible to break in than regular
>>
I didn't offer anything. Read the thread from begining. I was the first to
confirm the PEOPLE is the main issue.
Yes, I don't think clients buy mainframes because they are more secure, i
don't know if there are new clients for mainframes in the last few years.
Most, if not all, mainframe clients
W dniu 2019-05-29 o 12:09, Richards, Robert B. pisze:
I'm still sure thank banks are less susceptible to break in than regular house
Yeah, experience is a tough task master, isn't it?
Who is task master?
Do you try to insult me?
Just because you disagree with my opinions?
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
That's classical FUD.
Frightening people.
"if an exploit", "if job reads you RACF db", "unintended consequences".
What exactly hacking scenario can provide RACF db to the hacker?
Yes, I saw APF libraries with UACC(ALTER), UID(0) as standard TSO user
attribute, even UPDATE to RACF db. But it's
Radoslav,
I just tried to demonstrate the fact that ibm sometime don't confirm the
risk before it fix it and many of the industry ayyack methodd are also
posible with new technologies broght to mainframe. While i accept this
strategy from client security point of view, you can't relay on that
AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
W dniu 2019-05-28 o 19:01, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
> Radoslav,
>
> "Claiming that z/OS has flaws as other systems is the same as claiming bank
> is vulnerable to burglars as houses&quo
W dniu 2019-05-28 o 19:01, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
Radoslav,
"Claiming that z/OS has flaws as other systems is the same as claiming bank
is vulnerable to burglars as houses" I am sure you've heard of mettdown an
Spectre. IBM CPU have same issues as any other cpu in market -(
ITschak,
I'm sure
ll Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:26 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
I posted 3-4 links from varying sources all saying the same thing. Banks,
insurance, big retail all use the mainframe for approximately 3 major reasons,
on
I posted 3-4 links from varying sources all saying the same thing. Banks,
insurance, big retail all use the mainframe for approximately 3 major reasons,
one of which is security. Then Ray wants to show me some controlled experiment
that is nothing but a lab event that he can’t show to have ever
I backed them up weeks ago. Try to catch up.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 6:22 PM, zMan wrote:
So...you make statements and don't back them up, and when offered
coutner-examples, refuse to view them?
Plonk.
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bill Johnson <
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 5:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
FTP JES access relies on the credentials of the userid under which the FTP
server is running. Under
So...you make statements and don't back them up, and when offered
coutner-examples, refuse to view them?
Plonk.
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bill Johnson <
0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Demos remind me of this joke.
> http://www.jokes.net/heavenandhell.htm
> I’ve
(Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 4:42 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
What if you have a business need
Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
But again, if anonymous FTP is prohibited (which I can easily see is in general
a good idea for z/OS systems
(Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Ftp in general
MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Ray Overby
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:41 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Peter - That is a good question. I think there may be several ways to
explain this:
* When I explain code vulnerabiliti
Ftp in general is a bad idea. Data should have a single, well protected
copy. ibm moves to REST APIs (zosmf, but can be used natively). Again,
they need to be protected.
ITschak
בתאריך יום ג׳, 28 במאי 2019, 21:51, מאת John McKown <
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 12:46 PM Farley, Peter x23353 <
peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> PMFJI here, but as a regular application programmer (not a sysprog) I do
> not understand how the FTP JES option allowed is a configuration
> vulnerability.
>
> Isn't the FTP JES option one of
lf
Of Ray Overby
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
This discussion on mainframe vulnerabilities has unfortunately broken down. I
have been talking to mainframe people about vulnerabilities for the last
different from TSO SUBMIT?
Peter
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Ray Overby
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
This discussion
Demos remind me of this joke.
http://www.jokes.net/heavenandhell.htm
I’ve seen my share of demos that make claims or promises that simply never
occur.
Thanks Ray, I’ll pass.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 1:20 PM, Ray Overby wrote:
Bill - I am not interested in
Bill - I am not interested in selling you anything. I will just demo an
exploit of a code vulnerability. That's it.
On 5/28/2019 12:09 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
lol, oh it’s a demo and you sell something to fix the hole right? But, it has
never been exploited in the real world.
Sent from
lol, oh it’s a demo and you sell something to fix the hole right? But, it has
never been exploited in the real world.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 1:06 PM, Ray Overby wrote:
Bill - I assure you the silliness is all on your part. ;-)
/Show me a link to your
Bill - I assure you the silliness is all on your part. ;-)
/Show me a link to your third scenario successfully implemented? /My company
does not publicly disclose z/OS code vulnerabilities that it finds in z/OS, ISV
and installation code. I would be happy to demo one of the vulnerabilities for
Radoslav,
"Claiming that z/OS has flaws as other systems is the same as claiming bank
is vulnerable to burglars as houses" I am sure you've heard of mettdown an
Spectre. IBM CPU have same issues as any other cpu in market -(
ITschak
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 7:53 PM R.S. wrote:
> W dniu
W dniu 2019-05-28 o 16:31, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
Bill,
I agree that z/os has the potential to be a secure system, however people
configure it. What i do is to show you at real time, the delta between
actual and required state if hundreds of security controls. Just to make
z/os safe as it
PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
Excellent suggestions for vulnerability categories.
If an exploit uses anonymous FTP wouldn't Anonymous FTP be considered
vulnerable in its current configuration? If not what would you consider
05F0
0A0C
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Clark Morris
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 2:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor
Pure silliness now. As this topic always becomes.
I never said or insinuated the platform was immune.
In shops I’ve worked, very few had access to add to the APF list. Security and
Audit often questioned additions. Most additions were software libs from 2-3
vendors whose libraries were also
://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ray
Overby
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
This discussion on mainframe
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
In addition to defining what is "security" we need
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
This discussion on mainframe vulnerabilities has unfortunately broken
down. I have been talking to mainframe people about vulnerabilities for
the last 12 years. I have talked with people just like Bill Johnson. My
This discussion on mainframe vulnerabilities has unfortunately broken
down. I have been talking to mainframe people about vulnerabilities for
the last 12 years. I have talked with people just like Bill Johnson. My
discussions went just like this discussion did. The problem (as I saw
it) was
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:27 AM Mike Schwab
wrote:
> Yet many more people still break into homes vs banks despite low yield
> because of the low odds of being cot and the low penalty if you are
> caught.
>
>
"low penalty" in Texas is not necessarily true. I someone were to break
into my boss'
ll Johnson
> > Sent: 27 May, 2019 18:20
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
> >
> > Your analogies are similar to claiming houses are broken into more than
> > banks because there are more of them. Wh
I agree, the biggest exposure is the people who don’t take security seriously.
But, z/OS is inherently more secure than other platforms because of the design.
In the bank and insurance company I worked for, security was paramount. Because
of the data we handled. Banking records are as critical
Bill,
I agree that z/os has the potential to be a secure system, however people
configure it. What i do is to show you at real time, the delta between
actual and required state if hundreds of security controls. Just to make
z/os safe as it should.
Most people here think the same. Z/is has the
And you sell security services. What do I expect you to say?
Not everything I provided was IBM.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 10:13 AM, ITschak Mugzach wrote:
These Are IBM docs. What you expect them to say?
ITschak
בתאריך יום ג׳, 28 במאי 2019, 16:54, מאת Tom
These Are IBM docs. What you expect them to say?
ITschak
בתאריך יום ג׳, 28 במאי 2019, 16:54, מאת Tom Marchant <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>:
> On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:32:35 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>
> >If you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend the posts I provided, I
Ones, not zones.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM, Tom Marchant
<000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:32:35 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>If you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend the posts I provided, I cannot
It’s an absolute fact security is one of the main reasons the mainframe is
still used in industries that require the best security. You can google it and
see numerous links. I worked at a bank and can verify. Also at an insurance
company. I also have extensive criminal justice training as well.
Did you ever work at a bank? I doubt it.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM, Tom Marchant
<000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:32:35 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>If you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend the posts
On Tue, 28 May 2019 13:32:35 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>If you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend the posts I provided, I cannot
>help you.
As I wrote, I read all of the references that you posted.
Yes, I understood them.
You misrepresented what they said.
Now your response is to insult
A.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
>
> In addition to defining what is "security" we need to define what we mean
> by "hacking". In my previous career at IBM I was asked this many times. At
> that time I preferred to talk of
age-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
> Sent: 28 May, 2019 15:12
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
>
> In addition to defining wh
If you either didn’t read or didn’t comprehend the posts I provided, I cannot
help you.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 9:17 AM, Tom Marchant
<000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019 16:05:33 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2019 16:05:33 +, Bill Johnson wrote:
>Mainframes are by design far more secure. For good reason. The exposure
>is catastrophic potentially. It’s one of the main reasons why banks rely and
>stay on it and spend tens of millions for it. I’ve already provided numerous
>links
t if you can delay him for only one hour to steal a million.
Kees.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: 28 May, 2019 9:00
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure ar
.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: 28 May, 2019 9:00
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
>
> W dniu 2019-05-27 o 17:
UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: 27 May, 2019 18:20
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls
>
> Your analogies are similar to claiming houses are broken into more than
> banks because there are more of th
W dniu 2019-05-27 o 17:45, Chad Rikansrud pisze:
At the risk of re-kicking the already dead horse: Bill, you're comparing
apples and spiders.
Are there fewer mainframe 'hacks'? Yep. There are also exponentially fewer
mainframes than Windows / Android / Mac / IOS / Linux. Like - a few
That true. The system is protected as far you protect it according to the
best practice recommended by the vendor, standard organizations and
hardening frameworks. if you follow the rules, you minimize the risk.
A client asked me few days ago how can I get his password. I told him that
I don't
[Default] On 27 May 2019 09:05:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Bill Johnson) wrote:
>Mainframes are by design far more secure. For good reason. The exposure is
>catastrophic potentially. Its one of the main reasons why banks rely and stay
>on
Your analogies are similar to claiming houses are broken into more than banks
because there are more of them. Whereas the real reason is the ease of breaking
in.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 11:45 AM, Chad Rikansrud
wrote:
At the risk of re-kicking the already
Mainframes are by design far more secure. For good reason. The exposure is
catastrophic potentially. It’s one of the main reasons why banks rely and stay
on it and spend tens of millions for it. I’ve already provided numerous links
referencing it. Add in my criminal justice knowledge along with
Where the money is, banking/mainframes. Trillions.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 11:45 AM, Chad Rikansrud
wrote:
At the risk of re-kicking the already dead horse: Bill, you're comparing
apples and spiders.
Are there fewer mainframe 'hacks'? Yep. There are
At the risk of re-kicking the already dead horse: Bill, you're comparing
apples and spiders.
Are there fewer mainframe 'hacks'? Yep. There are also exponentially fewer
mainframes than Windows / Android / Mac / IOS / Linux. Like - a few thousand
mainframes compared to 2.5 BILLION users of
Yet, they aren’t hacked. While other platforms are hacked every day.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Sunday, May 26, 2019, 6:07 PM, Mark Regan wrote:
https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/just-how-secure-are-mainframes-052619
or
*https://tinyurl.com/y2mfd3tl
89 matches
Mail list logo
