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Charles
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As a Californian, I have a special
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
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> > Wait - is
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> > Wait - is bottom-posting a
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:42:00 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote:
>...
>Notice how you can clearly see what was your comment, and how my
>responses direct
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:42:00 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote:
>...
>Notice how you can clearly see what was your comment, and how my
>responses directly relate to parts of your comment?
>
But only if your MUA distingushes quoted material. Am I a Luddite for
eschewing HTML coloring (and even
: Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )
Old WP users, among whom I count myself, mourn the loss of reveal-codes
mode. When my company switched from WP to Word (which I still think was
largely my fault), I judged that Word
On 6/13/20 11:46 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?
Yes! Very MUCH so!
I've always assumed that bottom-posters are just careless; they read
down to a certain point, and then type in their responses without
thinking about where.
I'm sure there are some that are as
Yes, they do sometimes.
I got into the habit of cleaning up emails before replying to them: removing
signatures, some of the headers (but always leaving the From and Date
lines), sometimes even some of the content, as some of us do here. But I
had a boss recently who objects strenuously to that
Old WP users, among whom I count myself, mourn the loss of reveal-codes
mode. When my company switched from WP to Word (which I still think was
largely my fault), I judged that Word was easier to use for the easy things
- italics and bold at keystroke, for instance - but harder to control for
the
Initials>, really? I didn't know anyone else does that. My best friend in
high school moved to another state, and we started writing long letters to
each other, swapping a little news but mostly debating religion. (He'd
become an agnostic at about the time I became a religious fanatic.) When
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 22:07:05 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>And, I have worked for companies that required you to leave all the
>previous emails being quoted.
>
That's what archives are for. That's what "In-Reply-To:" headers are for.
A companiy having such a concern should provide a viewer that
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Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com]
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The point being that they were using a standard
Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com]
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> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?
YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required.
Back when I started using Thunderbird as an
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Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )
I'm no fan of Outlook, but top-posting doesn't bother me either. When it's
necessary to address points, I say, see below. At least Outlook has HTML, so I
generally change the font/color of my interleaved responses. Oh well.
Fir
, June 13, 2020 9:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )
I'm kind of rabid about including options in the programs I write, pretty much
any option I can think might be useful if it isn't too hard to write in. How
can ~I~ know what the user will find
I'm kind of rabid about including options in the programs I write, pretty much
any option I can think might be useful if it isn't too hard to write in. How
can ~I~ know what the user will find useful? So if I can ask, that's great,
but sometimes it's not possible.
Maybe Microsoft overdoes it
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )
> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?
YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required.
Back when I started using Thunderbird as an email client (a
u/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob
Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:46 PM
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Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I'
, June 13, 2020 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )
I'm no fan of Outlook, but top-posting doesn't bother me either. When it's
necessary to address points, I say, see below. At least Outlook has HTML, so I
generally change the font/color
st [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:21 PM
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What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? I will bet
I have gotten tens
M$ lookout automatically does top quoting and manually doing correct quoting is
awkward. Gmail has similar issues.
Legal disclaimers are normally appended by mail servers and the user has no
control over them. The solution is to use a personal e-mail account, but some
organizations prohibit
Le 13/06/2020 à 22:13, Tony Thigpen a écrit :
>> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?
> Also, back in those days, it was clearly pointed out to the developers
> that their "so called" standard was for newsgroups, not email but they
> were stuck deep in their "we know what is right" mode. They also
> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?
YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required.
Back when I started using Thunderbird as an email client (around 2002?),
TB forced you to bottom-post and it took a special hidden option to
allow top-posting. And, it did not really
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:21:19AM -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
> What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting?
> I will bet I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail
> replies in my life and every single one of them was "top-posted."
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Paul Gilmartin
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On 2020-06-13, at 11:21:19, Charles Mills wrote:
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> What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting?
>
In some part tradition.
> I will bet I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail replies in my
> life and every single one of them was "top-posted."
>
> What is
On Jun 13, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I've always assumed that bottom-posters
> are just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their
> responses without thinking about where. Are you saying that some people post
> at
Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I've always assumed that bottom-posters are
just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their
responses without thinking about where. Are you saying that some people post
at the bottom ON PURPOSE?!
Why, for heaven's sake?
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Bob
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What is it with tech
Outlook or OWA is required; access to private email service is blocked while on
the network.
Top-posting isn't enforced. Didn't you see my awesome manual job? I could
edit quoted text. I cannot control the legal disclaimer; that's added after it
leaves the Outbox. It's all audit; don't
What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? I will bet
I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail replies in my life and every
single one of them was "top-posted."
What is it about tech bulletin boards where folks seem to want the most
relevant stuff -- the
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