RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-14 Thread Karen Thomas
Just a sidenote here: There is a line of Appaloosas who do a soft gait referred to as the "Indian Shuffle". Has anyone ever seen or ridden one of those? The Appaloosa "breed" as exists now is basically a color breed - even though some purists will tell you differently. Th

RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-14 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Thanks for defining the fox rack, Karen. It's been almost a year since Liz introduced it to me, and I wasn't sure I could describe it properly. You did such a good job at it's description, I'm keeping your post. No problem. I can describe it now because it baffled me for a while and it took

Re: Fwd: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-14 Thread Susan Coombes
> >>> He's still an exuberant youngster. I'd say this is a fairly good buck That looks just like my Ofeig showing off her cute but as the geldings trot by. I hope I don't EVER have to ride it! Sue

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread snowpony
Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I haven't heard much about Walkaloosas lately - what happened? Did they > find they typically weren't getting color? Or that they typically weren't > getting gait? Or both? > Just a sidenote here: There is a line of Appaloosas who do a s

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A "fox rack"? How does that work?... I'm not sure I believe > such a critter exists. ~~> > Sure it does - there's an infinite number of gaits > out there, since no two > horses are EXACTLY alike. :) We just name the major >

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread snowpony
> The "fox" part means that the pick-up is slightly diagonal (as opposed to > the > saddle rack, where the pick-up is slightly lateral) but the set-down is > even.< Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like what distinguishes a fox rack from a saddle rack is a very, very slight nuance

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On Feb 13, 2008 9:47 AM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure my TWH is typical of anything and he sort of has the full > spectrum of intermediate gaits, but he has put on some extremely athletic > displays of playful bucking when he's turned out to pasture in the morning. Moth

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Funny -- at one of the clinics I attended here in Michigan with Liz, >>> there was a stunning, multi-gaited mare there who could pretty much >>> perform all the soft-gaits on command and beautifully, effortessly on a >>> loose rein too. She was the product of an accidental breeding: A T

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
A "fox rack"? How does that work? I mean, the foxtrot is diagonal, the rack lateral. . . .To me, the two gaits would seem oppositional to each other to some extent and hard to be in combination. What are the footfalls and "beat" (even 1-2-3-4, or 1-2, 3-4, or 1,

RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread snowpony
susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And believe it or not, the other impressively gaited > horse that came to Liz's mind was another Arab/gaited > cross (can't remember which one). Funny -- at one of the clinics I attended here in Michigan with Liz, there was a stunning, multi-gait

RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread snowpony
Hi Susan, > Liz got me to get the rarely seen fox rack out of her. A "fox rack"? How does that work? I mean, the foxtrot is diagonal, the rack lateral. . . .To me, the two gaits would seem oppositional to each other to some extent and hard to be in combination. What are the footfall

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Judy Ryder
> All horses *can* buck, but stock horses buck more than gaited horses which > is due to the conformational differences that make it easier for stock > horses (not as easy for gaited horses) to buck. Gaited horses might tend > to > run or bolt instead of buck. I should have been more clear; th

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> He's still an exuberant youngster. I'd say this is a fairly good buck >>> (pic attached). I didn't get a picture...:( (But I sure did get a bunch of gobble-de-gook...) Yep, my babies buck all the time in the pasture. I've always assumed that is one reason the Icelanders wait until the

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>>I'm not sure my TWH is typical of anything and he sort of has the full >>>spectrum of intermediate gaits, but he has put on some extremely athletic >>>displays of playful bucking when he's turned out to pasture in the >>>morning. But he trots a lot too, right? (I seem to remember you owning

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I have not seen him buck a lot in pasture tho he does at times. His >>> bucking under saddle with me is non existent but thats cause I listen >>> when he tail wrings :) You're a wise woman Janice. :) I think the best way to "ride out a buck" is to figure out what's causing it and stop i

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/13/08, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I mention the lateralness, because the one Icelandic I know that seems most > likely to buck as a gut reaction is Tivar...and he doesn't have any > lateralness to his gaits at all! He doesn't buck out of joyousness under > saddle (unless

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 2/13/2008 6:47:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When my horse Willie/Segull went into training a couple of months ago he decided to buck a few times with a rider. She said it was so smooth and little it was part of his gaits. haha His canter is very

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:04:51 -0800, you wrote: >In my experience if horses consistently buck going into the canter It wasn't consistent at all - she never did it unless she had a horse in front of her and wanted to go yee haa (and that's quite a feat for Rosa, she's very laid back). She doesn't r

RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Mic, >>I've had a couple that will, usually when going into canter. Maria's old mare Rosa would do this silly little buck, back feet going about 6 inches off the ground, and at the same time squeal. In my experience if horses consistently buck going into the canter I check the pelvis for some i

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:50:36 -0500, you wrote: > I don't >remember ever seeing an Icelandic buck under saddle in a way that I could >construe as "joyous." I've had a couple that will, usually when going into canter. Maria's old mare Rosa would do this silly little buck, back feet going about 6 i

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
Judy just quoted someone as saying that gaited horses are often built such that it's hard for them to buck. I'm not sure my TWH is typical of anything and he sort of has the full spectrum of intermediate gaits, but he has put on some extremely athletic displays of playful bucking when he's tur

RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I remembered that Whisper is not Icelandic, but Arab x TWH. I believe you said she gaits, but isn't very lateral...? In other words, when she gaits, she foxtrots or run-walks...? << Her gait of choice is saddle rack. She does fox trot and runwa

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Janice McDonald
also can buck as a balance adjustment. Janice -- courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
All horses *can* buck, but stock horses buck more than gaited horses which is due to the conformational differences that make it easier for stock horses (not as easy for gaited horses) to buck. Gaited horses might tend to run or bolt instead of buck. I don't argue that

RE: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Karen Thomas
> My formerly miserable horse actually RACED Andi to reach me first in the enclosure the other day. When she gave those exhuberant, easy bucks on the trail, I knew they were joyous bucks, and my heartrate knew, too, because I just giggled instead of getting upset by it. I did play it safe, how

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-13 Thread Lorraine
> do anymore than a walk after that. After all, I am > old!! > You couldn't be as old as me. LOL. My Kevin got bucked off because he mounted while Dagur was still moving. He is stubborn (Kevin) Lorraine __

Re: [IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-12 Thread susan cooper
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do horses buck? ...> [] Are just feeling well and happy > > The bucks a horse makes because he is feeling good > are not normally hard, > vicious bucks, although they should not be allowed > to get out of hand.<< This was the kind of buck I got fr

[IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2008-02-12 Thread Judy Ryder
Why do horses buck? >From 100 Ways to Improve Your Horse's Behavior: Horses usually buck because they are: [] In pain, usually in the back but maybe elsewhere [] Afraid the rider is going to cause them pain or distress [] Not confirmed in going forwards reliably [] Over-fed and under-exercised [

[IceHorses] Bucking Horses

2007-01-28 Thread Judy Ryder
Why do horses buck? >From 100 Ways to Improve Your Horse's Behavior: Horses usually buck because they are: [] In pain, usually in the back but maybe elsewhere [] Afraid the rider is going to cause them pain or distress [] Not confirmed in going forwards reliably [] Over-fed and under-exercised [