[Ietf-dkim] Lars Eggert's Block on charter-ietf-dkim-04-05: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)

2023-01-31 Thread Lars Eggert via Datatracker
Lars Eggert has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-dkim-04-05: Block When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along

Two verified errata for BCP79

2021-03-31 Thread Lars Eggert
-editor.org/errata/eid5312 Lars Eggert IETF Chair ___ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce

Applied Networking Research Prize awards for IETF-82

2011-09-21 Thread Lars Eggert
://irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/irtf-announce http://isoc.org/join Regards, Lars Eggert, IRTF Chair Mat Ford, Internet Society http://irtf.org/anrp http://isoc.org/research -- ANRP Selection Committee Mark Allman, ICIR Marcelo Bagnulo, UC3M Lou Berger, LabN Olivier Bonaventure, UCL Louvain Ross Callon

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-eggert-successful-bar-bof-06

2011-09-12 Thread Lars Eggert
We need to run this past Jorge. The gist of that section of the text basically came from an email exchange we had. I'm not at all opposed to changing it, but if we change it, Jorge needs to OK it. On 2011-9-9, at 18:36, Spencer Dawkins wrote: Lars, For what it's worth, I have the same

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-eggert-successful-bar-bof-06

2011-09-09 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, thanks, Ben. We will incorporate most of your suggestions in the next revision. That said: On 2011-9-8, at 0:22, Ben Campbell wrote: -- Section 6 suggests side meetings should be (somehow informally) covered by NOTE WELL. I think this is a very dangerous suggestion. The rest of the

Call for Nominations: Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) for IETF-82

2011-08-02 Thread Lars Eggert
CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: APPLIED NETWORKING RESEARCH PRIZE (ANRP) http://irtf.org/anrp *** Submit nominations until August 28 for the ANRP for IETF-82, *** November 13-18, 2011 in Taipei, Taiwan: *** http://fit.nokia.com/anrp/82/ The Applied Networking

[irsg] Final Agenda: IRTF Open Meeting at IETF-81

2011-07-26 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, The final agenda for the IRTF Open Meeting is available at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/81/agenda/IRTF.txt Please note that the meeting is *Wednesday* at 09:00 and not Thursday, as originally scheduled and still listed on the printed agenda. Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Final Agenda: IRTF Open Meeting at IETF-81

2011-07-23 Thread Lars Eggert
Final Agenda IRTF Open Meeting Quebec City, Canada *Wednesday*, July 27, 2011, 9:00 - 11:30 (new time!) Slot lengths below indicate presentation+discussion time. State of the IRTF Lars Eggert 10+5 min Applied Networking Prize (ANRP) Awards 2x 20+10 min

Preliminary Agenda: IRTF Open Meeting at IETF-81

2011-07-21 Thread Lars Eggert
*PRELIMINARY* Agenda IRTF Open Meeting Quebec City, Canada July 11, 2011, 9:00 - 11:30 (tentative) Will be uploaded to the datatracker as soon as I have access rights. Slot lengths below indicate presentation+discussion time. State of the IRTF Lars Eggert 10+5 min Applied

Applied Networking Research Prize awards for IETF-81

2011-06-03 Thread Lars Eggert
Regards, Lars Eggert, IRTF Chair Mat Ford, Internet Society http://irtf.org/anrp -- ANRP Selection Committee Mark Allman, ICIR Lou Berger, LabN Ross Callon, Juniper Lars Eggert, Nokia Olivier Festor, INRIA Mat Ford, ISOC Andrei Gurtov, HIIT Al Morton, ATT Bruce Nordman, LBL Jörg Ott, Aalto University

FIVE DAYS REMAINING: Call for Nominations: Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP)

2011-05-03 Thread Lars Eggert
CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: APPLIED NETWORKING RESEARCH PRIZE (ANRP) *** Apply until May 8, 2011 for the ANR Prize for IETF-81, *** July 24-29, 2011 in Quebec City, Canada! The Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) is awarded for recent results in applied networking

Call for Nominations: Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP)

2011-04-15 Thread Lars Eggert
CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: APPLIED NETWORKING RESEARCH PRIZE (ANRP) *** Apply until May 8, 2011 for the ANR Prize for IETF-81, *** July 24-29, 2011 in Quebec City, Canada! The Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) is awarded for recent results in applied networking

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-03-28 Thread Lars Eggert
As one of the authors/editors, I am fine with this change. Thanks! On 2011-3-28, at 14:14, Alexey Melnikov wrote: After discussing this new text with IESG and some participants of the TSVWG, it became clear that while there is clear agreement for adding the first sentence quoted above (There

Re: World IPv6 Day and Us

2011-02-16 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2011-2-15, at 19:45, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Noting the increasing length of the list athttp://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/participants/ ...I mostly note that I see very few eyeball ISPs on that list (with the notable exception of two large US cable ISPs - great, guys!) Turning on IPv6

Re: Last Call: draft-eggert-tcpm-historicize-00.txt (Moving the Undeployed TCP Extensions RFC1072, RFC1106, RFC1110, RFC1145, RFC1146, RFC1263, RFC1379, RFC1644 and RFC1693 to Historic Status) to In

2011-02-03 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2011-2-3, at 17:03, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote: While I fully agree with what this document proposes. This might be an editorial comment but I 've noticed that RFC 1072 is not mentioned to be made Historic despite the option specified by it is made obsolete. you mean it's missing from

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-01-31 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2011-1-30, at 17:12, Paul Hoffman wrote: The above emphatic statements means that IANA can reject a request for an IETF-approved protocol that needs two ports without recourse. I don't follow. Assignments through IETF-stream documents do not go through expert review. And I've never

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-01-31 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2011-1-31, at 16:51, Paul Hoffman wrote: On 1/31/11 12:23 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: On 2011-1-30, at 17:12, Paul Hoffman wrote: The above emphatic statements means that IANA can reject a request for an IETF-approved protocol that needs two ports without recourse. I don't follow

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-01-27 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi On 2011-1-27, at 2:12, Cullen Jennings wrote: Big Issues 1: I don't like mandating one port for secure and not secure versions of a protocol I don't think this reflects IETF consensus given the number of protocols that deliberately choses to use two ports. I also don't think that it is

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-01-27 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2011-1-27, at 11:20, Carsten Bormann wrote: With UDP-based protocols, it is harder to do this. Please look at section 7.3 of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-coap-04.html#section-7.3 and tell us whether this is how you would like this to be handled for UDP-based

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (InternetAssigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Managementof the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port NumberRegistry) to BCP

2011-01-27 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2011-1-27, at 18:58, t.petch wrote: And what happens when we have ProtocolX over SSH and ProtocolX over TLS? Must they share a port, with ProtocolX, which has been quietly using its assigned port for 20 years? No. The expert reviewer can obviously assign a second port in that case (if

Re: [port-srv-reg] Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Regi

2011-01-25 Thread Lars Eggert
I've made this change in our working copy. On 2011-1-21, at 14:50, Magnus Westerlund wrote: t.petch skrev 2011-01-21 12:43: I would like to see more clarity in 8.1 For assignments done through IETF-published RFCs, the Contact will be the IESG. in that I am unclear what IETF-published RFCs

Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries

2011-01-18 Thread Lars Eggert
: Phillip Hallam-Baker To: Lars Eggert Cc: Iljitsch van Beijnum ; paul.hoff...@vpnc.org ; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.com wrote: Hi

Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries

2011-01-18 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2011-1-18, at 16:32, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: That would work IF the reason this is happening is that people don't understand that unassigned means reserved for future assignment. that *is* the reason, for at least those cases that I have been involved in. But I rather suspect that

Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries

2011-01-18 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2011-1-18, at 17:15, Eric Rosen wrote: The only way to avoid collisions due to squatting is to adopt a policy that all codepoint fields be large enough so that a significant number of codepoints are available for FCFS allocations. That's certainly a suggestion we should follow for new

Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries

2011-01-17 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2011-1-17, at 1:23, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: If people think that IANA is a tool they can use to impose their own personal political agenda on the Internet, they are mistaken. that isn't the point of this thread. The point of IANA assignment is to avoid conflicting codepoint usage.

Re: Last Call on draft-ietf-pim-registry-03.txt

2011-01-14 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2011-1-13, at 22:43, Michelle Cotton wrote: Many believe it makes it very clear to the users of the registry what is available for assignment. Something we will be rolling out soon (for those registries with a finite space) will be small charts showing how much of the registry space

Re: Poster sessions

2011-01-10 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2011-1-8, at 19:41, R. B. wrote: I'm really in a rush, but I want to send my 0.02 too. I like the idea of a poster session, since a single I-D could go unobserved in the churn of other I-Ds. many areas have open meetings where folks already can present such ideas. It's up to the ADs

Beijing TSV area office hours

2010-11-07 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, the TSV area office hours are Tue 15:20-17:00 in Diamond 3. If you plan on stopping by, please send us (tsv-...@tools.ietf.org) a quick email beforehand. Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list

CORRECTION: Beijing TSV area office hours

2010-11-07 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-11-8, at 11:32, Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo) wrote: the TSV area office hours are Tue 15:20-17:00 in Diamond 3. Correction: Diamond *** 2 *** Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

two independent implementations (Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels)

2010-10-27 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2010-10-26, at 6:37, James M. Polk wrote: I'm not in love with the 3 maturity levels, especially when I was asked by an AD during Maastricht to provide proof of 2 independent implementations just to have an ID I was presenting be considered to become a WG item. I was that AD, and

Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2010-10-27 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-10-26, at 23:54, Tony Hain wrote: Did you miss James Polk's comment yesterday? The IESG is already changing their ways!! They now require 2 independent implementations for a personal I-D to become a WG draft. James characterization is inaccurate. See my other email. Lars smime.p7s

Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2010-10-27 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-10-27, at 2:10, John Leslie wrote: I'm quite certain the IESG doesn't have such a blanket policy. Correct (of course). The reported incident _may_ be accurate, but such a requirement would have come from the WG Chair, not the responsible AD, least of all some other AD. I'd be

Fwd: [multipathtcp] Call for contribution to middlebox survey

2010-10-03 Thread Lars Eggert
Begin forwarded message: From: Michio Honda micc...@sfc.wide.ad.jp Date: October 3, 2010 2:30:57 GMT+03:00 To: Multipath TCP Mailing List multipath...@ietf.org, t...@ietf.org t...@ietf.org Cc: Mark Handley m.hand...@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: [multipathtcp] Call for contribution to middlebox

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-nsis-nslp-auth-06

2010-09-20 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, where are we with regards to resolving this discuss? Lars On 2010-9-9, at 19:51, Roland Bless wrote: Hi Russ, On 09.09.2010 16:56, Russ Housley wrote: Will any implementations be impacted? If not, we should ask the Security ADs for their best suggestion. At least we have one

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-7-25, at 14:19, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Why? You've made it onto the IAB watch list. They like to geo-track the troublemakers. Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: [78attendees] wanted: your old NAT home router

2010-07-21 Thread Lars Eggert
of the study. Lars Thanks, Yuchung On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.commailto:lars.egg...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, a quick status update. We now have received over 100 donated home gateways, plus a DSLAM. The students are on their summer break, after which we'll

Re: wanted: your old NAT home router

2010-07-09 Thread Lars Eggert
the EU and North America, or any other model we may not have yet (see http://fit.nokia.com/lars/tmp/2010-hgw-study-devices.txt). And we're still lacking a CMTS for testing cable modems... See you in Maastricht, Lars On 2010-6-2, at 18:36, Lars Eggert wrote: Hi, FYI, a first report with test

Re: wanted: your old NAT home router

2010-06-02 Thread Lars Eggert
to the testbed and include in a follow-up study. If you have an unused, spare home gateway to donate to this effort, please contact us at nat-st...@fit.nokia.com. We're also interested in obtaining a DSLAM and a CMTS. Thanks, Lars On 2010-4-29, at 12:34, Lars Eggert wrote: Hi

wanted: your old NAT home router

2010-04-29 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, for a measurement study done together with Markku Kojo's team at the University of Helsinki, we're looking to collect as many different NAT home routers as possible. If you have an old clunker lying around somewhere, please contact me off-list. I'll cover shipping via DHL. Feel free to

Re: T-shirts?

2010-03-30 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2010-3-27, at 13:41, Ray Pelletier wrote: We have been working with an online vendor to allow t-shirts and other paraphernalia (coffee mugs, ball caps, etc) to be purchased. The rock concert design has been a particular challenge. why is this harder than uploading the various

Re: Javascript timer for speakers

2010-03-23 Thread Lars Eggert
Here is mine. It's a hacked up (= simplified) version of some code that was apparently originally done by Rob Austein (I got it form someone else at some point). This reminds me that I still owe Rob the beer-ware beer... Title: Discussion Timer TimeRemaining 0:00 On

Re: Why the normative form of IETF Standards is ASCII

2010-03-17 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-3-17, at 8:48, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: I have actually written a few drafts that way. The text part isn't hard, but the hard breaks at every line are, and the hard breaks at every page even more so. Tools do create those don't exist in today's world. they do, e.g., something

Re: NetFPGA tutorial with IETF in Anaheim

2010-02-08 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2010-2-5, at 16:52, Aaron Falk wrote: Details about this event and registration information are posted on-line as: http://netfpga.org/tutorials/IETF2010/index.php the page says: Cost of the tutorial is $200. I'm trying to understand if this is a for-profit event. The reason is that I'm

Fwd: NetFPGA tutorial with IETF in Anaheim

2010-02-08 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2/8/10 1:38 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: Hi, On 2010-2-5, at 16:52, Aaron Falk wrote: Details about this event and registration information are posted on-line as: http://netfpga.org/tutorials/IETF2010/index.php the page says: Cost of the tutorial is $200. I'm trying to understand

Re: [BEHAVE] General Comments on xlate-stateful-07

2010-01-18 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2010-1-18, at 1:11, Reinaldo Penno wrote: What I mean is that the sentence starts of with In such cases These 'cases' are those when the NAT cannot determine whether the endpoints of a TCP connection are active, as written. right. I believe the thinking was that if you can detect

Re: Review of draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-04.txt

2009-12-16 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-12-16, at 10:55, JP Vasseur wrote: Yes you are right, that rings a bell. That said, I think that with the added text, this should be clear now. So if we changed it to overload in the earlier documents, wouldn't it make sense to make the same change here for consistency? Lars

Re: Review of draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-04.txt

2009-12-15 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-12-15, at 17:50, JP Vasseur wrote: First it wasn't clear from the document if congestion was referring to the PCE itself or the corresponding LSPs. For clarity of discussion, I will assume LSP congestion. Even if that is not correct, my comments are general and there are

Re: sctp multihoming query

2009-12-04 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, you really want to be asking this on the TSVWG list. CC and Reply-To set accordingly. Lars On 2009-12-4, at 1:57, Sudhanva Mudigere Narayana Gowda wrote: Hi, I have a query regarding sctp multihoming behavior. I have setup a multihomed association and this is my observation Host_A

Re: Regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures

2009-11-19 Thread Lars Eggert
FYI: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg02914.html On 2009-11-20, at 4:41, Randy Presuhn wrote: From: Andrew Allen aal...@rim.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures ... This transmission

Re: IETF Plenary Discussions

2009-11-13 Thread Lars Eggert
FWIW, this source is my hacked up version of the original that commented out a bunch of stuff I don't need when I use this. YMMV. (And thanks to the guys who originally put this together! It's been helpful many times.) Lars On 2009-11-11, at 18:46, Scott Brim wrote: Tony Hansen allegedly

Re: A session for resolving my DISCUSSes

2009-11-01 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-11-1, at 1:00, Dave CROCKER wrote: I haven't heard of an AD's doing this before. most areas have been scheduling office hour slots during the week for the last few years, for this and other purposes, but those usually only get announced to the area lists. Maybe we should

Re: request for feedback: change to the ID boilerplate

2009-10-28 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-10-28, at 11:53, SM wrote: At 02:28 27-10-2009, Lars Eggert wrote: The second URL points to a list of FTP mirrors, fully half of which are defunct in some way (don't respond, DNS name doesn't resolve, contains stale content, etc.) Again, nobody has been noticing this. The second

request for feedback: change to the ID boilerplate

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, I'm proposing a change to the ID boilerplate in order to save some lines on the first page. The current text says: Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute

Re: request for feedback: change to the ID boilerplate

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-10-27, at 14:09, Scott Lawrence wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:28 +0200, Lars Eggert wrote: The list of current Internet-Drafts is at http://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/. Is a nice space-saving measure, but isn't true. That URL leads to a query page, not a list of current drafts

Re: request for feedback: change to the ID boilerplate

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-10-27, at 14:39, Lars Eggert wrote: On 2009-10-27, at 14:09, Scott Lawrence wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:28 +0200, Lars Eggert wrote: The list of current Internet-Drafts is at http://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/. Is a nice space-saving measure, but isn't true. That URL

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-10.txt

2009-10-17 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-10-16, at 15:54, John Leslie wrote: There have been a number of voices favoring what Jari tried to call as consensus, and I'd like to add mine. +1 Lars (assuming my voice counts) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___

Re: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis and the optional/mandatory nature of IESG notes

2009-09-01 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-8-31, at 18:34, Adam Roach wrote: In particular, when a user accesses a document at a url of the form http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc.txt, there is going to be a strong presumption on their part that the document was produced by the IETF. In the cases that this presumption is

Re: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis and the optional/mandatory nature of IESG notes

2009-09-01 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-8-31, at 19:24, Joel M. Halpern wrote: But the same could be said all our experimental and informational RFCs. Should we insist that all experimental and informational RFC, even from IETF WGs, carry big warnings THIS IS NOT AN IETF STANDARD. FWIW, this was exactly what I proposed a

Re: One Day Pass Proposal was Re: One Day Pass for newcomers

2009-08-24 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, looks good. I have one (probably stupid) question: who checks this and how? Will we use different colored paper for the name tags for different days? Will the secretariat patrol the hallways? Or is the abuse angle something that we don't think is a realistic issue? Lars On

Re: One Day Guest Pass

2009-08-21 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-8-21, at 16:01, David Harrington wrote: Maybe we should have an RFID reader/recorder at the door to each session, and to send bills to people based on what they actually attend (plus a base fee). ... This approach might also cut down on people using sessions to just read email and

Re: 2nd Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP

2009-08-11 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-8-10, at 23:24, Joel M. Halpern wrote: Please, approve this document for publication as an BCP. Agreed. Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: [xml2rfc] Releasing xml2rfc 1.34pre3?

2009-07-07 Thread Lars Eggert
Release early, release often. Can't we simply do a 1.35 whenever the upcoming changes have been finalized? Lars On 2009-7-7, at 0:30, Julian Reschke wrote: Marshall Rose wrote: julian, bill - i thought we were waiting on another revision for boilerplate changes? is that imminent? Some

Re: Releasing xml2rfc 1.34pre3?

2009-07-06 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-7-5, at 16:20, Carsten Bormann wrote: Would it help to simply call it 1.34 now? (Then it would be picked up by distributions and packaging services such as macports, and people could stop installing by hand.) +1 I maintain the fink package for xml2rfc, and the committers asked me

xml2rfc is OK ( was: Re: XML2RFC must die, was: Re: Two different threads - IETF Document Format)

2009-07-06 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-7-5, at 16:24, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: My apologies for the subject line. I'm very disappointed that the silent majority of draft authors isn't speaking up. I can't imagine that the vast majority of draft authors has absolutely no problems with XML2RFC. So I'm assuming they've

Re: Publicizing IETF nominee lists [Fwd: Last Call: draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist (Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees) to BCP]

2009-06-11 Thread Lars Eggert
I agree with Sam and Jari. This is a good and overdue change. Lars On 2009-6-10, at 17:21, Jari Arkko wrote: I also support the publication of this document (modulo some nits that were discussed earlier). Yes, there are trade-offs. But having observed the process from various sides over

Re: WG Review: Multiple InterFaces (mif)

2009-04-22 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2009-4-21, at 9:00, Sam Hartman wrote: Keith, I've considered your points and continue to disagree. I'm mostly replying in the interest of judging consensus. I believe that the primary use cases identified in the MIF BOF are use cases that are not going to go away. I think that saying

Re: [tcpm] [OPSEC] draft-gont-tcp-security

2009-04-15 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, Todd, On 2009-4-14, at 22:21, Todd Glassey wrote: Fernando Gont wrote: Lars Eggert wrote: I agree with Joe that some of the hardening techniques that vendors are implementing come with consequences (make TCP more brittle). To me, this is a *reason* this document should be published

Re: Security Assessment of TCP

2009-04-15 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-4-14, at 20:51, Fernando Gont wrote: Lars Eggert wrote: My personal take is that the IETF is responsible for the maintenance of its protocols, and this effort carried ut by the UK CPNI should be welcome, and the IETF should take the chance and benefit from this work to publish

Re: [OPSEC] [tcpm] draft-gont-tcp-security

2009-04-14 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, all hats off On 2009-4-14, at 1:38, Joe Touch wrote: Advice in making a hardened version of TCP would be useful to the implementation community. To a large extent this is what draft-gont-tcp-security is about. Implementation advice is outside the scope of the IETF. It's not even

Re: Downloading a whole maillist's archive

2009-03-30 Thread Lars Eggert
ftp.ietf.org, in the ietf-mail-archive directory On 2009-3-31, at 5:41, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I want to download the whole lisp maillist archive and import it into Thunderbird. I have a plugin for Thunderbird that will take mbox format, and I have pulled in maillist archives from other

Re: IETF speed -- was Re: Running Code

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-3-4, at 15:39, a...@tr-sys.de wrote: I do not want to blame anybody, but in the TSV area I am aware of documents in at least two different WGs that describe common (and recommended) _existing_ implementation practice and have not even been submitted to the IESG after more than 4

Re: Running Code

2009-03-04 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-3-3, at 22:54, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I think adding any new mandatory section to all I-Ds is a bad idea. It will quickly become bureaucratic. We've had proposals for mandatory Management Considerations, IPv6 Considerations, and no doubt others that I've forgotten, and they all

Re: Security Assessment of the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

2009-02-14 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2009-2-14, at 0:25, Marshall Eubanks wrote: If I am reading this correctly the UK Centre for the Protection of National Infrastructure wants the IETF (or some other body) to produce a companion document to the IETF specifications that discusses the security aspects and implications of

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-soft-errors-08.txt

2008-12-03 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-12-3, at 10:47, Fernando Gont wrote: (FYI, the draft originally aimed at Std. Track, and discussed other alternative approaches for dealing with the problem of long delays between connection establishment attempts. Then we changed the draft category to Informational, to simply document

Re: Friday experiment

2008-11-28 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-11-28, at 12:49, Stewart Bryant wrote: We could maybe start earlier on Friday as well - say 8am - i.e. run 0800 till 1300 with only only a 10 min coffee break. That would put nearly 5 hours into the schedule. That overlaps with the IESG/IAB what happened this week breakfast. (But

Re: WG Review: Low Extra Delay Background Transport (ledbat)

2008-10-31 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2008-10-31, at 10:45, ext Robert Elz wrote: This looks like useful work to do, and to me, the charter mostly looks fine, just one point. The (proposed) charter says ... | * operate well in networks with FIFO queueing with drop-tail | discipline which in itself is OK, but doesn't say

Re: WG Review: Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto)

2008-10-14 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2008-10-10, at 15:00, ext Marshall Eubanks wrote: considered for prioritizing standardization work, for example the number of operators and clients that are likely to be able to provide or use that particular data. In any case, this WG will not propose standards on how congestion is

Re: [p2pi] WG Review: Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto)

2008-10-14 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-10-11, at 4:27, ext Enrico Marocco wrote: Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: It's difficult to write a charter without actually designing the solution. This is an interesting opinion. May I translate that to mean that there is already a solution in the minds of the people who wrote the

Re: Secdir Review of draft-stjohns-sipso-05

2008-10-03 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-10-3, at 4:11, ext Joe Touch wrote: Agreed; I propose to take this over to TSVWG. It's more general than just TCP... I agree that the intersection of TSVWG and SAAG will probably more or less capture the correct set of folks, let's move the discussion there. I'll send another

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-soft-errors-08.txt

2008-09-18 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, I believe the gen-art comments need to be discussed before this document can move before the IESG. Lars On 2008-8-21, at 23:30, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see

Re: new text for ID_Checklist sect 3, item 6

2008-08-13 Thread Lars Eggert
Looks good. My only comment is about where the justification is to be provided - the PROTO writeup is at least an alternative to putting this into the document itself, and IMO it's a better alternative. Lars On 2008-8-13, at 12:21, ext Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: The revision 1.8 of the

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-08-11 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2008-8-11, at 2:32, ext John C Klensin wrote: --On Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:03 PM +0200 Julian Reschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - check that if the document obsoletes or updates another document, that one appear in the references section, and make sure that the document actually says

Re: NATs necessary for IPv6, says IETF chair

2008-07-28 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-7-28, at 13:55, ext Marc Manthey wrote: NATs necessary for IPv6, says IETF chair http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/072109-nat-housley-qna.html The quote form the article is: They are necessary for a smooth transition from IPv4 to IPv6 so that the important properties of the

IETF-75: sailing to Stockholm

2008-07-26 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, IETF-75 takes place in Stockholm, Sweden, from July 26-31, 2009. A bunch of us are planning to sail from Finnland to Stockholm during the week before the IETF, and to sail back from Stockholm to Finnland in the week afterwards. Coordinating this with several boats and a bunch of

Re: I-D Action: draft-rosenberg-internet-wait-hourglass-00.txt

2008-02-16 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2008-2-16, at 0:58, ext Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: So lets say I am building an application and I want to extend that application to users that may be NATted. Now, I have a choice. I can build that application to run on SCTP, which may be advtantageous. In that case, I'll be able

Re: I-D Action:draft-rosenberg-internet-waist-hourglass-00.txt]

2008-02-15 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, I enjoyed reading your draft, and I'm looking forward to discussing it in Philly. (We've asked Jonathan if he'd present at TSVAREA or INTAREA.) On 2008-2-13, at 15:44, ext Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: I wrote this because of a discussion that happened during behave at the last IETF

Re: I-D Action: draft-rosenberg-internet-wait-hourglass-00.txt

2008-02-15 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-2-15, at 16:21, ext Bernard Aboba wrote: However, I would suspect that clearly specifying how SCTP and DCCP work with NAT would eventually make it possible to obtain a home NAT supporting those protocols, particularly if implementations were made available within the popular

Re: Do you want the protocol DEPLOYED or not? Re: I-DAction:draft-rosenberg-internet-waist-hourglass-00.txt]

2008-02-15 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, On 2008-2-14, at 18:38, ext Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: In particular there are many cases where you would like to establish a 'lossy TCP connection'. That is you want the flow ct. advantages that you get from establishing a control channel session while accepting the fact that in a

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-2-11, at 18:55, ext Dan York wrote: Can we move some of this conversation in the bill below onto the Internet using systems where our costs essentially go to $0? (Obviously we still need to communicate to non-wired folks across the PSTN, such as event location facilities, etc.)

Re: IETF Eurasia

2007-11-30 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-29, at 6:28, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with your reasoning. I should have asked, why do *ALL* IETF meetings have to be monolithic and all-inclusive? They don't. Several WGs are holding interim meetings between the IETF meetings. I'm not sure if there have been joint

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-28 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-26, at 22:11, ext Henrik Levkowetz wrote: I agree on the general sentiment of *one* deadline time. I'd prefer it expressed in a TZ which iCalendar files and most calendar applications understand right off, though. UTC sounds good to me. Let me put in a plug for

Re: IETF Hosting Opportunity - March 2009

2007-11-28 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-28, at 19:00, ext Ole Jacobsen wrote: Keep in mind that the locations are subject to change until a host has been identified and the hotel contract signed. This means that you could well see one of the OTHER meetings in 2009 take place in Europe. TBD and Provisional really does mean

Re: IETF Hosting Opportunity - March 2009

2007-11-28 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-28, at 20:08, ext Russ Housley wrote: The IAOC plan for 2008 and 2009 is to have three meetings in North America, two meetings in Europe, and one meeting in Asia. This 3:2:1 ration will be repeated for 2010 and 2011. So far, we are on track to make this happen. I appreciate

Re: Lets be careful with those XML submissions to the RFC Editor

2007-11-27 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-25, at 23:51, ext Paul Hoffman wrote: They still should (strongly) consider checking the validity of the XML by comparing it to what the IESG approved. I agree with Paul. The IESG approves the text version of a draft, so the text version is definitive. Making the XML available

Re: Last Call: draft-arkko-rfc2780-proto-update (IANA Allocation Guidelines for the Protocol Field) to BCP

2007-11-06 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-6, at 2:08, ext Brian E Carpenter wrote: Red herring as far as this draft is concerned: I'd be interested to know why we are still willing to allow non-disclosure for port numbers (see RFC 2780 sections 8 and 9.1). Port numbers are going fast. We've recently been discussing port

Re: Daily Dose version 2 launched

2007-11-06 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, I'm hoping that everyone who's criticizing the volunteers that create and maintain our tools is considering to offer their obviously vast expertise in Vancouver: http://www3.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/ VancouverSprint Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-mpls-02.txt

2007-10-24 Thread Lars Eggert
Authors, if you want to change the draft based on the sec-dir or gen-art reviews, please let me know and either send me a corresponding RFC Editor Note or tell me that you're submitting a new draft. Lars On 2007-10-23, at 9:06, ext Tom Yu wrote: Bob == Bob Briscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: session layers, was Re: Renumbering ... Should we consider an association that spans transports?

2007-09-18 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-9-17, at 17:40, ext John Day wrote: Fast Select was a single packet that opened, transfered data, and closed a connection. The same as what Mr. Ford's description. What you outline above is very different from SST. I'm surprised that after reading the paper you'd think that there

Re: session layers, was Re: Renumbering ... Should we consider an association that spans transports?

2007-09-17 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-9-14, at 21:54, ext Tony Finch wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Keith Moore wrote: I actually don't think that having multiple concurrent TCP connections between two peers is a bad thing. sure we could have a transport protocol that provided multiple streams, but why bother when

Re: session layers, was Re: Renumbering ... Should we consider an association that spans transports?

2007-09-17 Thread Lars Eggert
priorities such that objects that were being rendered on the screen were transmitted at a higher priority, even while scrolling around a large page. On Sep 17, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: You might be interested in Bryan Ford's SST paper from this year's SIGCOMM: Structured

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