Re: [dnsext] SPF isn't going to change, was Deprecating SPF

2013-08-26 Thread bmanning
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 08:39:36AM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:46 PM, manning bill bmann...@isi.edu wrote: the question is not that nobody checks type 99, the question is is the rate of adoption of type 99 -changing- in relation to type

Re: [ietf] DNS spoofing at captive portals

2010-09-27 Thread bmanning
actually, it was the right questions... and the answers all distill down to your reply. security and trust are in the eyes/validator of the beholder. Sam Weiler borrowed the term local policy - which trumps any middleman. Steve B. suggests VPNs (or their functioal eqivalant) between the

Re: [dnsext] RFC 3484 section 6 rule 9 causing more operational problems

2009-03-05 Thread bmanning
my error here - Paul said DNS does no ordering... he did not specify ordering of what. we now return you to your rant. --bill On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 07:54:37PM +, Chris Thompson wrote: On Mar 4 2009, OndEej SurC= wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:57 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com

Re: [dns-wg] Re: [apnic-talk] AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-09 Thread bmanning
perhaps your answer can be found in the first line of Barbaras message. let me quote it: On 4 February 2008, IANA will add records for the IPv6 addresses of the four root servers whose operators have requested it. for the four root servers whose operators have REQUESTED it.

Re: 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

2007-05-30 Thread bmanning
And what do we see: 6bone space and still in use. As a lot of places correctly filter it out, the PMTU's get dropped, as they are supposed to be dropped. The whois.6bone.net registry is fun of course: inet6num: 3FFE:800::/24 netname: ISI-LAP descr:Harry Try IPv6

Re: NATs as firewalls

2007-03-14 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 04:31:40PM -0800, David Morris wrote: So I got curious and checked the 'current' list. Looks to me like the question revolving around MIT is small potatoes compared with some other organizations ... HP now owns two /8 blocks ... their own and DECs. HP is down

Re: NATs as firewalls

2007-03-08 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:22:05AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any case, I don't have any examples to present since most of the reclamation that has been done over the past few years was done without any fanfare. The RIRs and the organizations involved are really the only ones who

Re: [Int-area] Re: Last Call: 'An IPv6 Prefix for Overlay Routable Cryptographic Hash Identifiers (ORCHID)' to Experimental RFC (draft-laganier-ipv6-khi)

2006-10-29 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:10:48AM +1100, Geoff Huston wrote: But this is enough about my opinions. Please state your opinion -- in the interest of not replicating this discussion on multiple lists, send follow-ups to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 last call comments: Secondly, in Section 7

Re: As Promised, an attempt at 2026bis

2006-10-03 Thread bmanning
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:00:14PM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: If that's indeed the case, the first order of business needs to be to document current practice. I see no chance of making forward progress on actual changes without first having a consensus as to what our current state is.

Re: Comments on draft-dusseault-caldav-15 and draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14

2006-09-27 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:07:32AM -0700, Lisa Dusseault wrote: On Sep 23, 2006, at 2:20 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: But as a matter of fact, draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14 doesn't define any collations that would actually solve the Unicode NF issue, so it's not really clear how this

Re: Why cant the IETF embrace an open Election Process rather than some

2006-09-14 Thread bmanning
todd, you never did answer my question. when do you think the IETF aquired the attribute of members? open elections kind of presupose a defined electorate. what would be the criteria for some entity to cast a vote in such an election? --bill

Re: Why cant the IETF embrace an open Election Process rather than some

2006-09-14 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 09:36:38AM -0700, todd glassey wrote: Bill - I think the IETF has tried to for years claim it has no members and that simply isn't true - and I can arrange to have a Judge tell you and the IETF that if you like. great... i'd appreciate that. i stand by my

Re: Adjusting the Nomcom process

2006-09-07 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 06:08:08PM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Dave Crocker wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: This isn't a call for bureaucracy, but for precision. As this year's glitch shows, extreme precision is needed in the rules. Interesting. What it showed me is that we

Re: Adjusting the Nomcom process

2006-09-07 Thread bmanning
ietf has members? when did that happen Todd? --bill (checking for his membership card, reviewing tax records for missed membership dues, etc...) On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 09:10:41AM -0700, todd glassey wrote: Ned Eliot - why fix the process??? - lets just turn the IETF into a

Re: Adjusting the Nomcom process

2006-09-07 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:43:48AM -0700, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Just to clarify here there were two problems: 1) The list was not published on time 2) There was an unqualified person on the list. er... there might have been a third problem, qualified people were

Re: Size of pool (Was: Now there seems to be lack of communicaiton here...)

2006-09-05 Thread bmanning
there were some people who volunteered and were rejected. apparently i've not been to the required number of IETF mtgs... --bill On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 04:59:39PM -0700, Ole Jacobsen wrote: Folks, I think that volunteering for the nomcom is something that I should do as a duty to an

Re: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-17 Thread bmanning
MEXICO On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 10:54:16AM -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: There are two issues: 1) Cost. IETF has limited resources, so unless each of us want to pay more and more for the registration fees or we are able to compensate the cost with more

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-14 Thread bmanning
Without knowing the specifics of Jon's overrides - I can only say that those I know of involved poorly written or unclear documents that Jon was exercising reasonable editorial control over. If you're saying that we don't want an editor for the series - e.g. just publish what the IESG

Re: Wasting address space (was: Re: Last Call: 'Considerations on the IPv6 Host density Metric' to Informational RFC (draft-huston-hd-metric))

2006-06-05 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:12:28PM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 3-jun-2006, at 5:33, Steven Blake wrote: I am concerned about the conclusion reached in this document (that HD ratios 0.8 and closer to 0.94 should be considered when making address allocations to larger providers).

Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR

2006-06-01 Thread bmanning
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 06:42:06AM -0700, Lucy E. Lynch wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote: Lucy E. Lynch wrote: Let me try re-stating my question. Is there a one-to-one relationship between the listed authors on an IETF document and ownership of the given document's

Re: Copyright status of early RFCs

2006-04-07 Thread bmanning
not being the RFC editor, the IAB (or member thereof), or even the (as yet undefinable) IETF, I am not sure I am qualified to render a value judgement here. That said, I am in posession of two bound volumes of the collected RFC series as of the date of publication of said volumes (modulo

Re: Moving from hosts to sponsors

2006-03-29 Thread bmanning
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:47:46AM -0800, Dave Crocker wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah yes, the IETF as a FormulaOne race car. I'll approach CocaCola Visa for branding rights if that would help (esp for those folks denied a 770) ah yes, the ad absurdem form of

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread bmanning
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0100, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Ray, I think our goal is to not lose essential participants from the IETF due to clashes. In fact that's why we want to schedule several years out, so as to make it easier for many other organizations to do their scheduling.

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread bmanning
Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:27:22AM -0500, Scott W Brim wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 04:18:42PM +0100, Tim Chown allegedly wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I don't think the analogy holds, for a number of reasons. (As a matter of interest, there

Re: Moving from hosts to sponsors

2006-03-28 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 07:34:00PM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote: Dave Crocker wrote: Michael StJohns wrote: What I think Jordi is saying is that he wants the US sponsors to subsidize the cost of the overseas meetings. At least that's what it works out to be This view can be mapped to a

Re: An absolutely fantastic wireless IETF

2006-03-28 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:58:25PM -0600, Harald Alvestrand wrote: Just wanted to state what's obvious to all of us by now: This time the wireless WORKED, and Just Went On Working. That hasn't happened for a while. THANK YOU! Harald for novel interpretations

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04.txt

2006-01-20 Thread bmanning
It is broken, anyone that has proposed to host an IETF meeting know it. What you can read in the actual web page about hosting a meeting is not correct in the reality, and can't be 100% subjective (yes there will be a decision at the end, and that imply certain degree of subjectivity, but a

Re: Anyone not in favor of a PR-Action against Jefsey Morfin

2005-10-07 Thread bmanning
understood, but i was just responding to the subject line --bill On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:40:52AM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Folks, let's be clear about procedure here. If the IESG receives a formal request under RFC 3683, we are obliged to make an IETF Last Call and listen to

Re: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-blanchet-v6ops-routing-guidelines-00.txt

2005-09-19 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 03:35:33PM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote: Hi Bill, At 02:55 PM 09/16/2005, Bill Manning wrote: sorry, the I-D has no information as to where this should be discussed... so: Umm, from the file name I would have thought V6OPS is the intended venue to discuss it.

Re: Last Call: 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR)' to Proposed Standard

2005-08-29 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:21:06AM -0400, Keith Moore wrote: I am perhaps just being slow and dim-witted after minor surgery, but why should a protocol that no-one will use be standards track ? Why should we accept a few (mostly axe-grinding) peoples' assertions that no-one will use it?

Re: Stopping loss of transparency...

2005-08-22 Thread bmanning
yes, yes, but the query to Roland was/is, what happens in his particular situation? Do address literals bypass the ISP redirect? --bill On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 07:03:49AM -0700, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Behalf Of Bill Manning steve bellovin and jck have very good advice.

Re: S stands for Steering [Re: Should the IESG rule or not?]

2005-07-06 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 05:24:40PM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: John C Klensin wrote: --On Tuesday, 05 July, 2005 08:47 -0700 Bill Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe that is true in this case, as long as RFC 2780 is in force. Especially since there is a clear path for

Re: ICANN Board to implement IPv6 in root servers

2004-05-28 Thread bmanning
The headline is misleading. The recommendation is to support IPv6 registration of TLD servers in the root zone. The root servers themselves still need some testing before registration of their IPv6 capabilities. --bill manning

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-11 Thread bmanning
but ISC.ORG doesn't want to take a complaint. Bill Manning, of EP.NET (ISC.ORG upstream) says he has no contract with me to accept complaints about ISC.ORG. --Dean Dean... you are asserting a relationship that you have no way to prove exists. Unless or until

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-11 Thread bmanning
assignment of IP space does not impune any other service. Asserting otherwise is foolish. Pressing the point, esp. in public fora, appears to be willful ignorance. Please enjoy your blissful state. --bill On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 02:02:45PM -0400, Dean

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-11 Thread bmanning
if you are serious, please feel free to contact your legal council to persue remedies. On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: I can't parse your statement. I didn't say assignment of IP space __impunes__ a service. Perhaps you meant to say that your assignment of