RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Rob Butlin
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Carrier Class Gateway Why Waste time with calculations, It's an American Ship! Swing the 16 guns and blow the Bridge. Bush can call it routine and not apologize for it. -Original Message- From: Pat Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Leslie Daigle
Please tell me this is some joke about STD=standard that I'm simply not getting... Leslie. Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Peter Deutsch wrote: Errr, actually carriers don't have 16 guns, the battleships did. There Arizona had (has?) 14 ones. At least, when I

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread David Aronson
Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I'm surprised nobody's yet raised the issue of fragmenting the payload in transit and the effect this will have on traffic throughput. As modeled so far, this seems to be an interesting case where if you reduce the size of the payload you

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Ben Yalow
At 05:00 PM 4/26/01 -0700, Peter Deutsch wrote: Willis, Scott L wrote: Why Waste time with calculations, It's an American Ship! Swing the 16 guns and blow the Bridge. Bush can call it routine and not apologize for it. Errr, actually carriers don't have 16 guns, the battleships did. There

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Pat Holden
Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I'm surprised nobody's yet raised the issue of fragmenting the payload in transit and the effect this will have on traffic throughput. As modeled so far, this seems to be an interesting case where if you reduce the size of the payload

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Betsy Brennan
I'm sure this is a stupid question (and I will probably get flamed for this email), but what does this have to do with the IETF? Ben Yalow wrote: At 05:00 PM 4/26/01 -0700, Peter Deutsch wrote: Willis, Scott L wrote: Why Waste time with calculations, It's an American Ship! Swing the

Re[2]: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Gene Gaines
Betsy, I agree. Please take the off-topic nonsense off the IETF list. You are wasting my time. Gene Gaines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sterling, Virginia USA On Friday, April 27, 2001, 5:10:59 PM, Betsy wrote: I'm sure this is a stupid question (and I will probably get flamed for this email), but

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Book, Robert
.. -Original Message- From: Betsy Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:11 PM To: Ben Yalow Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway I'm sure this is a stupid question (and I will probably get flamed for this email), but what does this have

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread CARDOSO Jorge Miguel
Something New - Welcome! Thank you Robert. Betsy, your question was not stupid! I also lost some time deleting Carrier Class Gateway email's. :/ j0rgeCarD0s0 :) -Original Message- From: Book, Robert To: 'Betsy Brennan'; Ben Yalow Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27-04-2001 22:09 Subject

Re: Re[2]: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-27 Thread Jose Manuel Arronte Garcia
M too! M. - Original Message - From: Gene Gaines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Betsy Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ben Yalow [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 4:46 P Subject: Re[2]: Carrier Class Gateway Betsy, I agree. Please take the off-topic

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-26 Thread Jon Crowcroft
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven M. Be llovin typed: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Manning writes: semantically confused. why would sailors be on the bridge? (the one over the canal) Right -- they should be using routers, not bridges. but there's only 7 seas - 802.1d

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-26 Thread Mak, L (Leen)
Bill wrote: semantically confused. why would sailors be on the bridge? (the one over the canal) I guess you know the English expression the best horseman is always on his feet. The literal translation of its Dutch equivalent is: the best helmsmen are ashore ... Leen.

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-26 Thread Peter Deutsch
-Original Message- From: Pat Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 5:13 PM To: Jose Manuel Arronte Garcia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lloyd Wood Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway one would have to consider high tides during a full

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-26 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Peter Deutsch wrote: Errr, actually carriers don't have 16 guns, the battleships did. There Arizona had (has?) 14 ones. At least, when I visited Pearl Harbor a couple of years ago Anyway, will this proposed protocol also apply to STD carries over V* cannal ? :-)

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Doyle, Francis X.
The New Jersey is a Battleship not a Carrier. The carriers are bigger. -Original Message- From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:41 PM To: Matt Crawford Cc: Vijay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:44:25 CDT, Robert G. Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There's some discussion of Panama requirements in 'The New New Thing'. Not just a lock, but there's a bridge to worry about; passing under it at low tide is your height limit. Ya know, if we wait long enough, I'll

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Pat Holden
what type of media do you propose to run ISBP over? - Original Message - From: Robert G. Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway And of *course*, you want the bridge and the ship

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Robert G. Ferrell
what type of media do you propose to run ISBP over? Sailor-to-Sailor Relay, or maybe a specialized version of avian carriers (RFC 1149 et al.) using albatrosses or seagulls. RGF

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Matt Crawford
Not just a lock, but there's a bridge to worry about; passing under it at low tide is your height limit. i would imagine the problem would be at high, not low, tide. oops. mea culpa. Not at all. On a trip between oceans, waiting less than 12 hours for a favorable tide is probably

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Mark . Abinante
There's some discussion of Panama requirements in 'The New New Thing'. Not just a lock, but there's a bridge to worry about; passing under it at low tide is your height limit. i would imagine the problem would be at high, not low, tide. oops. mea culpa. L. Sorry to add yet

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread James P. Salsman
what type of media do you propose to run ISBP over? Sailor-to-Sailor Relay Relay? Sounds like a synchronous protocol, requiring heavy use of real-time techniques such as semaphores -- http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/semaphore.html If it were truly carrier class it would have large

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Robert G. Ferrell
However, those of us who choose to use asynchronous protocols can more easily make use of powerful, space saving message compression -- http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/signal-meaning.html If there is ever an IETF held at sea, I nominate the flag for Y - I am carrying mails as a conference

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Jose Manuel Arronte Garcia
Not on the bridge, the need to cross UNDER it... M. - Original Message - From: Bill Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dawson, Peter D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:25 P Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway semantically confused. why would

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Bill Manning
... % % --Original Message- % -From: Pat Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] % -Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:05 PM % -To: Robert G. Ferrell; [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway % - % - % -what type of media do you propose to run ISBP over

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Pat Holden
However, those of us who choose to use asynchronous protocols can more easily make use of powerful, space saving message compression -- http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/signal-meaning.html If there is ever an IETF held at sea, I nominate the flag for Y - I am carrying mails as a conference

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Joe Aiello
This would a collision avoidance protocol. For example, measure maximum height of the carrier class unit, compare to minimum height of the terrestrial routed physical path bridge. If the CCU exceeds the TRPPB, it must back off and wait until the next measurement cycle or until the measurement

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Manning writes: semantically confused. why would sailors be on the bridge? (the one over the canal) Right -- they should be using routers, not bridges. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Book, Robert
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway semantically confused. why would sailors be on the bridge? (the one over the canal) Or is this a case of ShipsIntheNight % % .dark fiber optics..based on Dense Wavelength % Division Multiplexing.. layed 2 km below the surface % of the sea... oh

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Pat Holden
its the sentsitive time to let it pass, with it is higher tides... Manuel Arronte. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lloyd Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:44 P Subject: RE: Carrier Class Gateway There's some

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread aaron
However, those of us who choose to use asynchronous protocols can more easily make use of powerful, space saving message compression -- http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/signal-meaning.html If there is ever an IETF held at sea, I nominate the flag for Y - I am carrying mails as a

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Willis, Scott L
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lloyd Wood Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Carrier Class Gateway one would have to consider high tides during a full moon to get an accurate measurement. I am also sorry about this but... I think all the calculation regarding height limit should be made based on high tides

RE: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-25 Thread Frank Solensky
Oh, I don't know, the flag for G (I require a pilot) seems to describe us pretty well, also... Are you trying to imply we're rudderless??!!! No, no: Palm Pilots.. Maybe we could use 'A' (D(r)iver below, I am undergoing a speed trial) for b@ke@ffs.

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-24 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
At 03:04 20.04.2001 -0500, Matt Crawford wrote: Please suggest me place or a Document where i can get some information about Carrier Class Gateway. There is no such thing. Neither the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal, nor any other man-made waterway has locks large enough to accommodate

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-24 Thread Sandy Wills
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: taking the undefined from the tangential to the irrelevant: http://www.pancanal.com/eng/photo/jersey-animation.html Perhaps the USS New Jersey isn't modern.actually, I think a lot of stuff is designed to panamax Being able to use our warships in

Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-20 Thread Vijay
Hi, Please suggest me place or a Document where i can get some information about " Carrier Class Gateway". thanks in Advance Vijay

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-20 Thread Matt Crawford
Please suggest me place or a Document where i can get some information about " Carrier Class Gateway". There is no such thing. Neither the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal, nor any other man-made waterway has locks large enough to accommodate a modern aircraft carrier.