Re: [ilugd] GPL/BSD (yet again)

2007-05-07 Thread Anant Narayanan
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Is there any other way that the BSD is better for developers than the GPL is? Yes, it allows your software to be linked -or- bundled along with software licensed under the so-called GPL-incompatible licenses; something that isn't possible in the GPL (the LGPL

Re: [ilugd] GPL/BSD (yet again)

2007-05-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 07 May 2007 11:32:36 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya said: Manoj Srivastava wrote: I am not sure I am convinced by these statements. As a developer, I fail to see how the GPL helps me any less than the BSD style licenses do -- unless you assume that all developers want to squirrel code

[ilugd] scope of freedel/freed

2007-05-07 Thread lawgon
hi just a clarification - is it the official policy to exclude BSD-licensed stuff or foss on non-linux platforms from the scope of the conference? regards kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] GPL/BSD (yet again)

2007-05-07 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 May 2007 11:31, Anant Narayanan wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: Is there any other way that the BSD is better for developers than the GPL is? Yes, it allows your software to be linked -or- bundled along with The GPL allows

Re: [ilugd] GPL/BSD (yet again)

2007-05-07 Thread Raj Mathur
This is an important point, and I'd like to clear this misconception about the GPL: On Monday 07 May 2007 12:37, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] The original statement did not make this distinction. Had you said that the authors not being helped by the GPL are closed source folks, I

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-07 Thread Raj Mathur
On Monday 07 May 2007 11:36, Anant Narayanan wrote: [snip] Anything is excess is bad, and in a world where good is a relative term, it is not tough to interpret FSF's actions as monopolistic. Basically you could say that the FSF is the Microsoft of the other side :) I fail to see the

Re: [ilugd] scope of freedel/freed

2007-05-07 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 May 2007 13:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi just a clarification - is it the official policy to exclude BSD-licensed stuff or foss on non-linux platforms from the scope of the conference? No it is not. We are open to all FLOSS

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-07 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 May 2007 11:27, Anant Narayanan wrote: [snip] When someone makes minor changes to BSD-licensed code it is unlikely that they are going to make millions of dollars out of it. If they are, chances are that they've made significant

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-07 Thread Pankaj kaushal
All you guys are fucking imbeciles. P. -- Wir wollen dass ihr uns alles glaubt. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi

Re: [ilugd] subconferences at ilugd conference in sept (frred or freedel or something else ?)

2007-05-07 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 19:48 -0700, vivek khurana wrote: [...] I am proposing holding subconferences withing the ilugd sept event. These subconferences will focus on one issue i.e will be like a conference by a SIG under teh banner of ilugd. There had been attempts to organize a python

Re: [ilugd] scope of freedel/freed

2007-05-07 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 00:56 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi just a clarification - is it the official policy to exclude BSD-licensed stuff or foss on non-linux platforms from the scope of the conference? [...] Um, it is not at all the policy, official or otherwise, to exclude any legitimate

Re: [ilugd] scope of freedel/freed

2007-05-07 Thread lawgon
Quoting Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 00:56 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi just a clarification - is it the official policy to exclude BSD-licensed stuff or foss on non-linux platforms from the scope of the conference? [...] Um, it is not at all the policy,

Re: [ilugd] scope of freedel/freed

2007-05-07 Thread PJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip stuff implying it might be official ILUGD policy to exclude BSD-licenced material because of my posts] It isn't. I speak for my myself. I believe BSD-licenced material is incompatible with freedom in the long term, though its original motivation is noble. So it

Re: [ilugd] GPL/BSD (yet again)

2007-05-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 7 May 2007 13:45:28 +0530, Raj Mathur said: This is an important point, and I'd like to clear this misconception about the GPL: On Monday 07 May 2007 12:37, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] The original statement did not make this distinction. Had you said that the authors not being

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 07-May-07, at 9:55 PM, PJ wrote: Incidently how come things like apache and postgresql are surviving inspite of bsd style licenses - not to speak about perl, php, python etc etc. Or are the authors of all these morons who dont understand what is freedom? The authors of these were

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 07-May-07, at 10:13 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: All you guys are fucking imbeciles. My goodness. Such a perfect example of looking into a mirror. more like a microsoft marketing slogan - eye-catching, grammaticaly correct but contributes nothing to the discussion -- regards

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-07 Thread PJ
Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in short, people who use BSD licenses are talented and lucky - I could live with that Not relying on luck in the first place would seem wiser. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] subconferences at ilugd conference in sept (frred or freedel or something else ?)

2007-05-07 Thread vivek khurana
--- Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this might work, but there needs to be more of a planning, including topics, and distribution of times. At present, there are three parallel tracks planned, and this looks to me like adding a fourth track. I am not sure if there

Re: [ilugd] subconferences at ilugd conference in sept (frred or freedel or something else ?)

2007-05-07 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 5/7/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 19:48 -0700, vivek khurana wrote: [...] I think that this might work, but there needs to be more of a planning, including topics, and distribution of times. At present, there are three parallel tracks planned, and this

Re: [ilugd] GPL/BSD (yet again)

2007-05-07 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
So, my objection is to the throttling of the supply side, by keeping the enhancements from the community. With the GPL, if the demand goes high enough, others can come in to supply to same service, or people can help themselves -- since the supply of the enhancement code

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-07 Thread Saurabh Nanda
Time and again, there have been expressions on this list that management decisions in ILUG-Delhi are taken behind closed doors. While I personally feel that ILUG-D is among the most open organisations that I have been a part of, and strongly resent such implications, there must be some truth