Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-30 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:21 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 26-Oct-07, at 2:06 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Anybody else dismayed by this? Any theories? heavy handed admin. If you check the two biggest mailing lists in India - chennai and mumbai, and you find that there are no

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:26:20 +0530, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What's this about FOSS apologetics? What is an FOSS apologetic? Who are they apologizing to, and what for? Even main stream IT events in mainstream IT cities go phut (see below). *shrug*. People

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-30 Thread Sudev Barar
On 31/10/2007, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [SNIP] notorious 'ilugd rule'. Take the latest freedel conference (or the previous one) - it was a mega flop. Audience on the second day was about 50 (including speakers and volunteers). First day, in each case was about 200. OK, lets

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 29-Oct-07, at 12:29 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: One might argue that 2007 was distorted by that huge spike (probably the Microsoft at Linux-Asia thread), so, the 'Kenneth Gonsalves Award for Flamebait 2007' goes to EFY ! i hope you have made your will - you are toast (or rather karuvaad)

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-29 Thread Sudev Barar
On 29/10/2007, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, the 'Kenneth Gonsalves Award for Flamebait 2007' goes to EFY ! i hope you have made your will - you are toast (or rather karuvaad) This does not make sense to me in any sense as a input or retort or funny or flame. --

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Akshay Lamba
Raj Mathur wrote: We're discussing two different things here. The ILUGD figures are at: http://gmane.org/output-rate.php?group=gmane.user%2dgroups.linux.delhi Based on the above data, below is how the figures look (the numbers are the total number of posts by month): Month 2003

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Akshay Lamba
I've put up the analysis/graph file on: http://lamba.selfip.com/Ilugd.zip It's in excel format, this is all I have right now on my office laptop. If you'll like to see a more politically correct *.ods version, either please volunteer to convert the excel file or wait up till the evening (till

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 11:43 +0400, Akshay Lamba wrote: I've put up the analysis/graph file on: http://lamba.selfip.com/Ilugd.zip It's in excel format, ^ Bah. :-) Try the graphs on http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/ListMails First, each of the years,

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread मनीष
On 10/28/07, Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put up the analysis/graph file on: http://lamba.selfip.com/Ilugd.zip It's in excel format, this is all I have right now on my office laptop. If you'll like to see a more politically correct *.ods version, either please volunteer to

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Akshay Lamba
मनीष wrote: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/OnlineActivityData Just plain save in new format. Thanks! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event:

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Sudev Barar
On 28/10/2007, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the graphs on http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/ListMails First, each of the years, 2005-2007 separately, then all three together. I was going to stay out of this thread, but drawing the graphs was too much fun.

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 16:40 +0530, Sudev Barar wrote: [...] Now that data and graphs all nice and tidy ... what conclusions are to be drawn? Will this improve the list quality or quantity? This thread has already done the latter ;-) Conclusions? I am afraid that conclusions cost extra. For

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-28 Thread Linux Lingam
One might argue that 2007 was distorted by that huge spike (probably the Microsoft at Linux-Asia thread), so, the 'Kenneth Gonsalves Award for Flamebait 2007' goes to EFY ! congratulations everyone! look at the bright side, we've got a whole week of opensource india week or something,

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-27 Thread Akshay Lamba
Raj Mathur wrote: A quick and dirty count yields the following number of messages posted to ILUGD from my archives: January: 181 February: 394 March:223 April:170 May: 296 June: 259 July: 230 August: 367

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-27 Thread Raj Mathur
On Saturday 27 October 2007 13:41, Akshay Lamba wrote: [snip] Hi Raj, what do the numbers at http://gmane.org/output-rate.php?group=gmane.user-groups.linux.india. help indicate? Isn't posting rate = number of posts in that date? The above numbers and the ones in the link don't match at all.

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-27 Thread Sudev Barar
On 27/10/2007, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 27 October 2007 13:41, Akshay Lamba wrote: [snip] Hi Raj, what do the numbers at http://gmane.org/output-rate.php?group=gmane.user-groups.linux.india. help indicate? Isn't posting rate = number of posts in that date? The

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-27 Thread Raj Mathur
On Sunday 28 October 2007 08:57, Sudev Barar wrote: [snip] Anyone up to graphing the figures over the past couple of years just for the heck of it? ILUGD rule #1 about volunteering ;-) I would have if I knew the first thing about graphics :) Regars, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur

[ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Anybody else dismayed by this? Any theories? ILUGD activity http://gmane.org/output-rate.php?group=gmane.user-groups.linux.india.help http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi Linux India activity http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.india.help

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 26-Oct-07, at 2:06 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Anybody else dismayed by this? Any theories? heavy handed admin. If you check the two biggest mailing lists in India - chennai and mumbai, and you find that there are no moderators. Sure, threads go offtopic, flames rage, but there is no

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 10/26/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26-Oct-07, at 2:06 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: notorious 'ilugd rule'. Take the latest freedel conference (or the previous one) - it was a mega flop. Audience on the second day was about 50 (including speakers and volunteers).

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Yashpal Nagar
I secondly agree to Kenneth, the environment in the list is not conducive. People's attitude about small-2 questions being asked, HOWTOs, questions about other linux distributions like SLES or RHEL are poorly treated to such a level that, person, might not ask any question again after that... :(

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Akshay Lamba
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Anybody else dismayed by this? Any theories? No theory, just some number crunching. The % reduction numbers are significant enough to indicate a fundamental change in the organization between 2004 and 2006, in my opinion. (I'm not attempting to commenting on what

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Vikas Rawal
KG's mail was in a bad taste. To all those who share this feeling: ignore such comments. No point getting into a point by point discussion over such stuff and give more life to it. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Sanjay Dutt
Gaurav Mishra wrote: On 10/26/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26-Oct-07, at 2:06 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: notorious 'ilugd rule'. Take the latest freedel conference (or the previous one) - it was a mega flop. Audience on the second day was about 50 (including speakers

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Sudev Barar
On 26/10/2007, Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 20042006% Reduction Month Count Month Count 1 340 1 113 67% 2 337 2 61 82% 3 541 3 132 76% 4 308 4 142 54% 5 323 5 65 80%

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I normally try to avoid being baited by Kenneth's online fantasies, but in this particular case perhaps some facts to temper the FUD are in order. Response bottom-posted as good netiquette dictates... On Friday 26 October 2007 15:21, Kenneth

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Viksit Gaur
Hello hello, Not to fan the flames too much, but this I have to ask about.. --- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the lack of traffic on the ilug lists is concerned, ilug was shot down by atul chitnis long ago. Uh, what was? it is just a question of the other big

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 10/26/07, Sanjay Dutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gaurav Mishra wrote: I do not understand why this has suddenly become 'personal'. This is precisely what Kenneth has said in his post, maybe he has been 'politically incorrect' in mentioning Kishore, but personally I see no cause for anybody

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip] in other news, in the year 2009 sandip bhattacharya notes that though the mailing list activity was tending to spiral down, kenneth gonsalves single-handedly and bravely surged the list up with his wonderfully-crafted flame-baits, f.u.d.s, and at-times flagrant messages. bearing the

Re: [ilugd] Online activity declining in linux-delhi/linux-india

2007-10-26 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 26 October 2007 14:06, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Anybody else dismayed by this? Any theories? ILUGD activity http://gmane.org/output-rate.php?group=gmane.user-groups.linux.india .help http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi I'm afraid that shows only one aspect of the