Re: [ilugd] ps and grep

2008-01-17 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
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 Puneet == Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Puneet Hi,
Puneet I have to frequently find the process ids of particular processes 
using a
Puneet combination of ps and grep.

You can try 'pidof'[1], if you're simply interested in find pid of a
process :)

[snipped]

Puneet But I was wondering if there was a way for me to specify this in 
the regular
Puneet expression for the first grep itself.

Puneet I tried ps -elo pid,args|grep myprocess\\!(grep)

The argument of grep is a regular expression (type 3 language), and
there is no way you can do this in a type 3 language. Even 'grep' also
matches 'grep' text when you pass '-v grep' argument to 'grep' command
line, and then only outputs unmatched lines.

References:
[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidof

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Re: [ilugd] ps and grep

2008-01-17 Thread tuxdna
  Puneet == Puneet Lakhina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Puneet Hi,
Puneet I have to frequently find the process ids of particular
 processes using a
Puneet combination of ps and grep.

 You can try 'pidof'[1], if you're simply interested in find pid of a
 process :)

 [snipped]

Puneet But I was wondering if there was a way for me to specify this
 in the regular
Puneet expression for the first grep itself.

Puneet I tried ps -elo pid,args|grep myprocess\\!(grep)

 The argument of grep is a regular expression (type 3 language), and
 there is no way you can do this in a type 3 language. Even 'grep' also
 matches 'grep' text when you pass '-v grep' argument to 'grep' command
 line, and then only outputs unmatched lines.

 References:
 [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidof



use pgrep and pkill instead

their man page says:
pgrep, pkill - look up or signal processes based on name and other
attributes


I use both quite often :-)
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Re: [ilugd] ps and grep

2008-01-17 Thread pj
Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Puneet == Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina at gmail.com writes:
 Puneet Hi,
 Puneet I have to frequently find the process ids of particular processes
using a
 Puneet combination of ps and grep.
 
 You can try 'pidof'[1], if you're simply interested in find pid of a
 process :)
 
 [snipped]
 
 Puneet But I was wondering if there was a way for me to specify this in
the regular
 Puneet expression for the first grep itself.
 
 Puneet I tried ps -elo pid,args|grep myprocess\\!(grep)
 
 The argument of grep is a regular expression (type 3 language), and
 there is no way you can do this in a type 3 language. Even 'grep' also
 matches 'grep' text when you pass '-v grep' argument to 'grep' command
 line, and then only outputs unmatched lines.

Type 3 and all that: reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language
Makes my eyes glaze over.

And ps output formats confuse me (see the man page if you want to make your
eyes froth and bleed like in a horror movie).

Puneet, with GNU ps what you're trying to do might be done by:

ps -A | grep myprocess

and if you really want to use the elo options (using that makes my GNU ps
barf so I haven't tested it), then maybe stick [] around the first character
in myprocess (ie, make it: [m]yprocess, see if that does the job):

ps -elo pid,args | grep [m]yprocess

I don't think there's a restriction on excluding the inclusion of grep in a
grep based on it being type 3.

YMMV

PJ

PS: pgrep, pkill, pidof (like others have said) may be handier for your needs.



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Re: [ilugd] Linux webcam

2008-01-17 Thread Mehul Ved
On Jan 10, 2008 11:01 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmm, I haven't even looked at the CD yet :)  No Skype here, will test
 out Ekiga when someone offers a video chat.

I believe kopete supports webcam for yahoo and msn messengers, if you use them.

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Re: [ilugd] ps and grep

2008-01-17 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
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,--[ On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:55:33AM +, pj wrote:
| Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| 
|   Puneet == Puneet Lakhina puneet.lakhina at gmail.com writes:
|  Puneet Hi,
|  Puneet I have to frequently find the process ids of particular 
processes
| using a
|  Puneet combination of ps and grep.
|  
|  You can try 'pidof'[1], if you're simply interested in find pid of a
|  process :)
|  
|  [snipped]
|  
|  Puneet But I was wondering if there was a way for me to specify this in
| the regular
|  Puneet expression for the first grep itself.
|  
|  Puneet I tried ps -elo pid,args|grep myprocess\\!(grep)
|  
|  The argument of grep is a regular expression (type 3 language), and
|  there is no way you can do this in a type 3 language. Even 'grep' also
|  matches 'grep' text when you pass '-v grep' argument to 'grep' command
|  line, and then only outputs unmatched lines.

I just noticed, that I'm able to make a FSM for matching that expression, which
implies that I'm wrong. So, I'm sorry.

Thanks
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[ilugd] [OT] Ford: Car owners are pirates if they distribute pictures of their own cars

2008-01-17 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
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Hi list,

I've found this interesting link:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/01/13/ford-car-owners-are.html


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[ilugd] SUN to buy MySQL

2008-01-17 Thread Yashpal Nagar
Deccan HeraldSun Microsystems Inc, announced from Santa Clara,
California, on Wednesday, that it has entered into a definitive
agreement to acquire MySQL AB, an open source icon and developer of
one of world's fastest growing open source databases for approximately
$1 billion in total consideration.

Full story at

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jan172008/business2008011646990.asp

Regards
Yash

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[ilugd] ILUG-D activity in last 7 days

2008-01-17 Thread nkapoor
Fri 18-Jan-2008: ILUG-D activity in last 7 days:
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Author: Piyush Sharma
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Hello Friends,

 Can anyone tell me how to compile kernel.for better 
performance...

Thanks..

2. Kernel compile

Author: Piyush Sharma
Posted on: Wed, Jan 16, 2008
Link: 
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin//disc.cgi?action=showItemiId=6catId=20subCatId=51

Hello Friends,

Can any one tell me how to compile kernelfor better 
performance?


Thanks...

3. Kernel Compile 

Author: Piyush Sharma
Posted on: Wed, Jan 16, 2008
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Hello Friends,

 Can anyone tell me how to Compile Kernel ??

Thanks

4. Kernel compile

Author: Piyush Sharma
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Link: 
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Hello Friends,

 Can any one tell me how to kernel compile ??


Thanks..

5. control panel  for linux

Author: Piyush Sharma
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Hello Friends,

  I am new user.and recently completed RHCE certification and i m looking 
for linux job

can u pls tell me abt control panel for linux services (eg:- LDAP , WEB servers 
, Mail server etc)
how to use it and have a different-different control panel for 
different-different servers?

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Ahem, just when through this section  if u r really into eastern european 
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[ilugd] Belated, but may still be of interest: Knowledge Commons workshop

2008-01-17 Thread Vikas Rawal
Announcement of a workshop on knowledge commons, including a session
on FOSS, to be held at IIT today. May be of interest to some on this
list.

Vikas Rawal

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Dear Friends,
Knowledge Commons is organising a workshop on 18th January in IIT,
Delhi (Details later) on the larger issue of commons. I am attaching a
note on the workshop and giving below the outline of the program. I am
hoping that you will be able to take time out of your busy program to
be with us on that day.
Best wishes,
Prabir Purkayastha

9.30-10.30 AM
Inaugural session: Background and overview
Professor Abhijit Sen
Brief Presentation on the objectives of the workshop
Tea Break

10.45-12.15
Free and Open Source Software
Speaker: Dr. G. Nagarjuna
Discussant: Jaijit Bhattacharya, Kiran Chandra

12.15-1.30
New Paradigms in Science and Education
Speakers:Professor Vijay Kumar, T. Jayraman
Discussant: Venkatesh Hariharan, Andrew Lynn
Lunch Break

2.15 -3.30
Agribiotechnology
Chair: SP Shukla
Satyajit Rath
Other speakers awaiting confirmation
Tea Break

3.45-5.00
Open Source Drug Discovery
Chair: Professor Srinath Reddy
Speaker: Dr. Samir Bramhachari
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Re: [ilugd] SUN to buy MySQL

2008-01-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 17-Jan-08, at 11:03 PM, Yashpal Nagar wrote:

 http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jan172008/ 
 business2008011646990.asp

so with sun owning mysql and oracle owning innodb - where does that  
leave the users?


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[ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi,

Got myself a second Internet link (Airtel) yesterday and was fooling 
around trying to get traffic multiplexed over both the new and the 
existing (MTNL) links.  It's working now, and on some applications I'm 
getting up to 512Kb/s speeds over my 2 256Kb/s connections.  Have 
documented the process in a short document that explains what you need 
to do to load balance traffic over multiple Internet links:

http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing

Feedback welcome.

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[ilugd] New to Linux

2008-01-17 Thread Siddharth Shekhar
Hello,,

I am a student and i want to expertise in LINUX as u all are.

But need your help. Which Linux to install.. Which one is more suitable for
beginner,,

Can u give me idea how to install it?

I have my laptop wid Windows Xp installed in it.
I want to use windows xp too not only linux.
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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 18-Jan-08, at 11:54 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:

 Got myself a second Internet link (Airtel) yesterday and was fooling
 around trying to get traffic multiplexed over both the new and the
 existing (MTNL) links.  It's working now, and on some applications I'm
 getting up to 512Kb/s speeds over my 2 256Kb/s connections.  Have
 documented the process in a short document that explains what you need
 to do to load balance traffic over multiple Internet links:

 http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing

what happens if one interface goes down - does it screw up the dns?


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Re: [ilugd] New to Linux

2008-01-17 Thread Parthan SR
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Siddharth Shekhar wrote:
 Hello,,

 I am a student and i want to expertise in LINUX as u all are.
Welcome to the club!

 But need your help. Which Linux to install.. Which one is more suitable for
 beginner,,
Sarcasm: Linux 2.6.22-14 or above
Reply: Linux is the kernel. When we pack the kernel with all the
utilities you need, we call it as a GNU/Linux Distribution. To know
what's hot and what's not check this out, http://distrowatch.com/

 Can u give me idea how to install it?

 I have my laptop wid Windows Xp installed in it.
 I want to use windows xp too not only linux.
Every distribution has documentation and it surely will have one on how
to install. The distribution I use has one,
https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/index.html

Installing Linux is not hard. Almost all distros have a nice GUI
installer which will help you install with just some mouse clicks and
typing. There are only a few steps where you have to be careful,
especially when you want to dual boot with Windows as well. Read the
docs, they will guide you. :)

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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
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,--[ On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 11:54:39AM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| Got myself a second Internet link (Airtel) yesterday and was fooling 
| around trying to get traffic multiplexed over both the new and the 
| existing (MTNL) links.  It's working now, and on some applications I'm 
| getting up to 512Kb/s speeds over my 2 256Kb/s connections.  Have 
| documented the process in a short document that explains what you need 
| to do to load balance traffic over multiple Internet links:
| 
| http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing

Quoting from above URL:

- 88
Multiple routers

If both your ISP modems are in router mode, you may have issues getting load
balancing to work. This is because both the connections will be using the same
interface (eth0). (Note that I'm using two interfaces, ppp0 and eth0, so I
don't face this problem)
- 88

What issues one will experience, hmm...? I did some similar setup with
eth0 connected to a hub, and both internet connections (PPPoE) terminating to a
hub. And used following command to do setup a default route:

ip r a nexthop via $gateway_1 nexthop via $gateway_2

All I need is that interface eth0 has two IPv4 addresses assigned
corresponding to networks of $gateway_1, and $gateway_2 .


BtW, did you ever get a chance to verify 'weight' assigned to network
routes, hmm...?

TIA
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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 18 Jan 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 18-Jan-08, at 11:54 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
  Got myself a second Internet link (Airtel) yesterday and was
  fooling around trying to get traffic multiplexed over both the new
  and the existing (MTNL) links.  It's working now, and on some
  applications I'm getting up to 512Kb/s speeds over my 2 256Kb/s
  connections.  Have documented the process in a short document that
  explains what you need to do to load balance traffic over multiple
  Internet links:
 
  http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing

 what happens if one interface goes down - does it screw up the dns?

Well, it screws up half your connections.  The commands I've given are 
for a rudimentary setup: no dead gateway detection, etc.

OTOH, if one interface goes down you can always

  /etc/init.d/networking restart

(or equivalent) to get back to your single-point access setup.

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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 18 Jan 2008, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla wrote:
 [snip]
 http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing
 Quoting from above URL:
 - 88Multiple routers
 If both your ISP modems are in router mode, you may have issues
 getting loadbalancing to work. This is because both the connections
 will be using the sameinterface (eth0). (Note that I'm using two
 interfaces, ppp0 and eth0, so Idon't face this problem)-
 88 What issues one will experience, hmm...? I did some
 similar setup witheth0 connected to a hub, and both internet
 connections (PPPoE) terminating to ahub. And used following command
 to do setup a default route: ip r a nexthop via $gateway_1 nexthop
 via $gateway_2
 All I need is that interface eth0 has two IPv4 addresses
 assignedcorresponding to networks of $gateway_1, and $gateway_2 .

Ah, I hadn't checked out that part of things and was under the 
impression that load balancing won't work if you have a single 
interface.  If you can confirm that you can do this with both modems in 
router mode I'll update the document accordingly, thanks.

 BtW, did you ever get a chance to verify 'weight' assigned to
 networkroutes, hmm...?

Nope, haven't tried that.  Haven't even tried to download anything heavy 
yet, just checked that it's possible.

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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Jan 18, 2008 1:07 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| OTOH, if one interface goes down you can always
|
|   /etc/init.d/networking restart
\--

Or use fail-over to use the other connection line:
http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano.txt

My reference documentation:
http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/load-balancing/load-balancing-single-multipath.html

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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 18-Jan-08, at 1:07 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:

 http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing

 what happens if one interface goes down - does it screw up the dns?

 Well, it screws up half your connections.  The commands I've given are
 for a rudimentary setup: no dead gateway detection, etc.

 OTOH, if one interface goes down you can always

   /etc/init.d/networking restart

 (or equivalent) to get back to your single-point access setup.

I use shorewall multiisp for load balancing with 3 ISPs  through  
eth1, eth2 and eth3 with the lan on eth0. Works fine but the moment  
one ISP goes down, the dns acts up and the various entries for that  
ISP have to be removed and firewall restarted. There also doesnt seem  
to be any way to detect when the isp comes up again, so the whole  
thing is manual at present - users scream, check which is down and  
restart without that.


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Re: [ilugd] Load balancing with multiple ISPs

2008-01-17 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
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,--[ On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:09:53PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
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| On 18-Jan-08, at 11:54 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
| 
|  Got myself a second Internet link (Airtel) yesterday and was fooling
|  around trying to get traffic multiplexed over both the new and the
|  existing (MTNL) links.  It's working now, and on some applications I'm
|  getting up to 512Kb/s speeds over my 2 256Kb/s connections.  Have
|  documented the process in a short document that explains what you need
|  to do to load balance traffic over multiple Internet links:
| 
|  http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/LoadBalancing
| 
| what happens if one interface goes down - does it screw up the dns?

It doesn't screw up DNS, but the multipath route is lost.

HTH
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