Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

On Sunday 06 May 2018, Ilya Zverev wrote: > > I wonder, how did we in our pursuit of copyright purity came from "do > not copy from google" to "do not even decide what not to map if there > is a google tab in your browser"? > > It IS using GSV for making decisions. But not for taking any data. >

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

06.05.2018 11:04, Andy Townsend пишет: As you know, the imports validator is no editor. The data is supplied by a third party along with a full permission to use the data. Any input in the validator only restricts which features and their attributes are NOT imported. That's simply not true. 

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Giovanni, The whole point of this discussion is that you SHOULDN'T be using Google Streetview for validating such imports. If you can't go there yourself, maybe add an OSM note. Although that doesn't really work very well either. It takes months/years for such notes to get resolved. You can use

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

That's fine. AFAIK italian fuel station dataset is very accurate and updated. I will use GSV just for "skipping" the sporadic ambiguous cases. 2018-05-06 0:59 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > On 6. May 2018, at 00:08, Cascafico Giovanni > wrote:

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

On 06/05/2018 08:17, Ilya Zverev wrote: I am well aware that none of you want to have any imports to OSM. That simply isn't true.  I've personally checked and added data as part of your "Shell" import.  The problems raised with that import and even more so with this one have been all about

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Of course I am no expert, nor part of the DWG but here are my 2 cents: I think the ToS should be applied to the mapping process itself, not only to the data product that is uploaded to OSM. So in this case even though there are no derived products from GSV as in new POIs added to OSM or changed

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

IANAL but the Google T’s are quite clear: https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/terms/ (b) No Creating Content From Google Maps Content. Customer will not create content based on Google Maps Content, including tracing, digitizing, or creating other datasets based on Google Maps Content.

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Thank you DWG for tracking the state of the imports validator. I am well aware that none of you want to have any imports to OSM. Even when every point is manually checked against knowledge and photos. But this issue is about licensing, and I want you to elaborate on that. As you know, the

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

sent from a phone > On 6. May 2018, at 00:08, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Ie: to-be-imported dataset contains a fuel station which I can spot on Bing, > but looks dismantled in newer SV imagery; I decide to "skip" it. Have I > violated Google terms? as long as you

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Using streetview has been discussed recently on italian ML. I brought to attention to the fact that SV information could be used for *not* putting the node: is this a violation anyway? Ie: to-be-imported dataset contains a fuel station which I can spot on Bing, but looks dismantled in newer SV

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Data for Iceland seems outdated. We are not willing to accept it. On 5.5.2018 19:02, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: "GSV" has been just enabled in audit webgui. Few hours ago wasn't there. 2018-05-05 20:06 GMT+02:00 Andy Townsend >: On 05/05/2018

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

"GSV" has been just enabled in audit webgui. Few hours ago wasn't there. 2018-05-05 20:06 GMT+02:00 Andy Townsend : > On 05/05/2018 18:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> On 5 May 2018 at 18:34, Andy Townsend wrote: >> >> It has recently been brought to the DWG's

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

On 05/05/2018 18:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 5 May 2018 at 18:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It has recently been brought to the DWG's attention that the North American part of this import (at the very least) http://audit.osmz.ru/project/navads_fuel_na is using Google Street View

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

On 5 May 2018 at 18:34, Andy Townsend wrote: > It has recently been brought to the DWG's attention that the North American > part of this import (at the very least) > http://audit.osmz.ru/project/navads_fuel_na is using Google Street View as a > source (see screenshot at >

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

On 28/03/2018 21:17, Ilya Zverev wrote: Please take another look at the import. It has recently been brought to the DWG's attention that the North American part of this import (at the very least) http://audit.osmz.ru/project/navads_fuel_na is using Google Street View as a source (see

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Hello Ilya, thanks for the validation tool and the statistics you published at [1]. The Community has looked at 6% of petrol stations and found that the failure rate is almost 15%. For professional data, I would expect a value of significantly less than one percent. It is therefore understandable

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Hi Ilya, Am 28.03.2018 um 22:17 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > Thanks for you comments on the last iteration. I have also seen local > discussions in french and german communities, with strong voices towards > rejecting the import in their countries. So I ask you to consider the > next iteration. The

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

And now, my personal point of view: If you can use your conflation tool with a larger area to remove most of the duplicate fuel_station, I think it could be interested to have a separate layer with only these nodes which we could manually review before the import. Stéphane

Re: [Imports] NavAds fuel stations import, take 3

Hi Ilya, I did expressed the opinion on this list that Imports or QA projects should be split in smaller territories to let the communities monitor these changes. Following discussions on the  France and Germany since lists you have split the imports for these areas. I dont think that this is