Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg A. Woods wrote: >[ On Saturday, October 13, 2001 at 01:23:14 (GMT), Kaz Kylheku wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] >> >> The problem is, I wouldn't hold my breath. > >You'll certainly turn blue if you try. > >CVS cannot easily ever

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 20:34:48 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > They can be stored in newphrases inside the RCS files, without breaking > compatibility. It's still the wrong way to do it, but it's an improvement > over the status q

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Wrong. Kaz Kylheku wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts > >while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. > > Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just > a

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
I simply clicked on the link you supplied.  I even copied it to IE just to make sure Nutscraper wasn't having a problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to use Netscape get to the patches.  Exactly what are you doing? Noel Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. P

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CVS cannot easily ever support renaming to any extent that something >like BitKeeper or Perforce does, at least not without breaking backwards >compatabilty of the repository structure. >There's simply no place to put the extra meta data necessary exce

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Saturday, October 13, 2001 at 01:23:14 (GMT), Kaz Kylheku wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > The problem is, I wouldn't hold my breath. You'll certainly turn blue if you try. CVS cannot easily ever support renaming to any extent that something like BitKeeper

Cygwin CVS: local server: storing existing directory

2001-10-12 Thread David M. Karr
This should be a no-brainer, but I just can't get my CVS setup going. I'm on Win2k, with Cygwin 1.3.2, CVS 1.11 (the cvs built into Cygwin). I have a directory "$HOME/java/sgs" that I want to store into CVS. I'm setting my CVSROOT to ":local:/cygdrive/c/cvsroot". I want to check out "sgs" into "$

Re: are there any utilities to convert from truechange to cvs

2001-10-12 Thread Bob Bowen
tom werman wrote: > > Has anyone written a utility to convert from true change to cvs ? Sorry, haven't heard of anything, but I'm curious if you would share your experience with TrueChange? CVS is way too primitive for what we need and I was looking at TrueChange as something considerably more s

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Sander wrote: >>It only looks broken when we call it renaming; calling it renaming doesn't >>make it renaming. > >Fine. CVS doesn't support renaming. We all know that. So it's incomplete. >Some would still claim that its lack of support for renaming means th

Re: How to lock CVS for check-in

2001-10-12 Thread David Everly
To recap, I'm looking to a way to lock branches so that people don't accidentaly check out or commit to an 'inactive' branch. I also need the solution to work for those accessing CVSROOT vi the :ext: method. cvs -n stat filename seems only to work from a 'sandbox' point of view. How would I use

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Sander wrote: >>>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:12:44 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] >--- Forwa

are there any utilities to convert from truechange to cvs

2001-10-12 Thread tom werman
Has anyone written a utility to convert from true change to cvs ?  Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

Re: Freezing CVS tags

2001-10-12 Thread terryh
Hi, Thanks for all the suggestions! Since I do not want the users to touch an existing tag at all, I will add code in tagrules.sh to reject any tagging request (tag, delete, etc) that involves an existing tag. My version or David's tagrules.sh will be: tag=$1 [tag] op=$2

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 15:45:15 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > The last job I had not involving the use of CVS was with SCCS, > and we didn't have branches. This did make shipping bug-fixed > stuff to customers interesting. Just as a

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On , October 12, 2001 at 13:51:10 (-0400), Sam Steingold wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > Also, the manual does _not_ explain why cvs cannot do what is described > in with "cvs mv" > and

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 21:07:09 (GMT), Kaz Kylheku wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > Not really. CVS does not support renaming. In that sense, its version > management is incomplete. Let's not confuse incompleteness with > incorrectness. Deleting a file a

Re: Why can't root check in files?

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 14:36:01 (-0400), Larry Jones wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Why can't root check in files? > > Greg A. Woods writes: > > > > Getlogin() is not always secure [*], > > I'm not really sure what that's supposed to mean, but since we only use > it when the user is root (an

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Handling project documentation using CVS

2001-10-12 Thread prhodes
Hello all, I was wondering if some of you nice people could give me some feedback on an issue I've been wrestling with. Besides the actual source code to a project, I also need the ability to version design documentation ( and maybe other stuff, but this is my immediate concern ). By design doc

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Sander wrote: >Under those conditions, almost any version control tool provides the >necessary merge tool. Your inexperience is showing. There are version control tools in *broad* use that have extremely support for branching and merging. Exhibit A: Visual Sou

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Sander wrote: >>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:12:44 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] >>> Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] >>> >>> >--- Forwarded mail from Greg Woods: >>> >Let me repeat: You

Re: Freezing CVS tags

2001-10-12 Thread David Everly
I'm thinking that what I do works to not allow tag changes: First, I define a 'cvsadmin' group. Second, I place this line in $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/taginfo: ALL $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/tagrules.sh Third, I place tagrules.sh in my $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/checkoutlist Fourth, my tagrules.sh looks like this: #!/bin

RE: Freezing CVS tags

2001-10-12 Thread Jerry Nairn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Is there a way to freeze the CVS tag? After we create a > CVS tag, we would > > like to freeze it so that no one can change it and causes > problem, is this > > possible? You need to use a command in the CVSROOT/taginfo administrative file which will exit with

Re: Freezing CVS tags

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Is there a way to freeze the CVS tag? After we create a CVS tag, we would > like to freeze it so that no one can change it and causes problem, is this > possible? No, but note that CVS won't move an existing tag unless you force it to by using the -F flag -- simp

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > One would hope that one's shop is not using the same branch for both > mainte

Freezing CVS tags

2001-10-12 Thread terryh
Hi, Is there a way to freeze the CVS tag? After we create a CVS tag, we would like to freeze it so that no one can change it and causes problem, is this possible? Thanks in advance! -- Terry Hung ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: Question regarding locking

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
Mark Lancisi writes: > > I'd like to lock one of those projects. In other words, I'd like for > everyone, except maybe one or two users, to be read only users of one of > the projects. The other projects needs to remain read/write for all. It > looks like I can set this up at the repository level

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
I think the original poster was referring to access controls on the primitive operations allowed on files by the version control system, e.g. some users are not permitted to commit on certain branches, others are not permitted to create tags, and so on. >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >3 developers (A,B,C) need to fix file X. >A is making some major changes, adding lots of new functionality. >B and C need to make a minor tweak to the file. >In a CVS model: >B anc C can be done and outa there in minutes and essentially forget about >

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:12:44 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] >> >> >--- Forwarded mail from Greg Woods: >> >Let me repeat: You DO NOT want or need to have "cvs log BAR" list >> >change

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:08:38 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] >> >> I gain the requirement of having to type multiple "cvs log" or "cvs rlog" >> commands, after figuring out every place

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 04:05:42 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, >> protective AND productive. Without some sort

Re: cvs exit status

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from Greg Woods: >[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 20:06:18 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: cvs exit status >> And your point is what? That it's okay to sometimes let nondeterministic >> errors go undetected? Sorry, that's not good enough. >I think in real

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
One would hope that one's shop is not using the same branch for both maintenance and new features. That kind of thing is best done on separate branches (where the two schedules don't interfere with each other). The bug fix is later merged into the new development when it's appropriate to do so.

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts >while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just another Chicken Little yelling that the sky

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
I got there by going to http://sourceforge.net/ and typing "rcvs" in the search field. That produced a table of about a dozen patches, one of which had a suitable one-description. I clicked on that, then on the "download" button. >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Netscape tries and t

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 11:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > [ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, > David wrote: ] > > Subject: RE:

Re: Why can't root check in files?

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
Greg A. Woods writes: > > Getlogin() is not always secure [*], I'm not really sure what that's supposed to mean, but since we only use it when the user is root (and hence can presumably spoof anything he or she wants), I don't think it really matters. > and it's not really portable > despite b

Re: notify

2001-10-12 Thread ar2kcm
echo "" = new line id = prints out user echo %{sVv} = special cvs variable to print out version info ar2kcm - Original Message - From: Postek, Jeffery To: 'ar2kcm' Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: RE: notify I can't remember what the %s or %{sVv} string is for. Please

Re: Why can't root check in files?

2001-10-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 12:12:27PM -0400, Larry Jones wrote: > If you're using su to get to root, then CVS should be able to figure out > your real userid and you should be able to commit. Only if you're using it locally. Client/server, it's the server that does the getlogin(), and that has no i

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bryon Lape wrote: >Kaz Kylheku wrote: > >> CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update >> operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically >> incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do >> you have to do re

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg A. Woods wrote: >Even locking without lock contention won't solve all conflict >scenarios. Commit wars are possible with any change control process. Even if you lock an entire repository, you can still get conflicts; conflicts outside of the system. Suppose

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Sam Steingold
> * In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * On the subject of "Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs]" > * Sent on Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:04:14 -0400 (EDT) > * Honorable [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg A. Woods) writes: > > [ On , October 12, 2001 at 10:59:41 (-0400), Sam Steingold wrote: ] > > Subject: Re: [

Re: notify

2001-10-12 Thread ar2kcm
The entire loginfo file should look like the following: # The "loginfo" file controls where "cvs commit" log information # is sent. The first entry on a line is a regular expression which must match # the directory that the change is being made to, relative to the # $CVSROOT. If a match is foun

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:51:54 (-0700), Gianni Mariani wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > There is a case where Greg would agree with you and that's in the case of > binary files or files that can't be merged automagically - like jpegs or > pngs. yes, of course!

Re: Howto solve this in cvs ?

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 10:35:16 (+0200), Gerhard Ahuis wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Howto solve this in cvs ? > > It is already done now with 2 vendor branches.. Moving the branch tag to > the corresponding vendor version does the job.. I tested commiting of > files on the two branches and it

RE: cvs exit status

2001-10-12 Thread Jerry Nairn
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 9:11 AM > [ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 20:06:18 (-0700), Paul > Sander wrote: ] > > And your point is what? That it's okay to sometimes let > nondeterministic > > errors go undetected? Sorry, that's no

Re: Why can't root check in files?

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 12:12:27 (-0400), Larry Jones wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Why can't root check in files? > > If you're using su to get to root, then CVS should be able to figure out > your real userid and you should be able to commit. If not, you need to > figure out why getlogin() d

Re: How to lock CVS for check-in

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On , October 12, 2001 at 11:30:07 (-0400), Jake Colman wrote: ] > Subject: Re: How to lock CVS for check-in > > So please explain how you would prevent access to specific branches for > specific users? I'm not sure why you think that this is not a reasonable > thing to want to try to do? Simpl

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On , October 12, 2001 at 10:59:41 (-0400), Sam Steingold wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > I wonder why "Greg A. Woods" could no say that as a reply to the _first_ > message suggesting this. Because you could have figured this out with only the tiniest amount of

Re: Howto solve this in cvs ?

2001-10-12 Thread Gerhard Ahuis
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Greg A. Woods wrote: > [ On Monday, October 1, 2001 at 09:12:24 (+), Gerhard Ahuis wrote: ] > > Subject: Re: Howto solve this in cvs ? > > > > Greg A. Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > For many of the same reasons it's literally impossible to ever have true > >

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Gianni Mariani
Wow, Greg meets his match ... Bryon, Consider this: 3 developers (A,B,C) need to fix file X. A is making some major changes, adding lots of new functionality. B and C need to make a minor tweak to the file. In a CVS model: B anc C can be done and outa there in minutes and essentially forget

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts > of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. Well, not with CVS anyway! :-) Maybe in a multi-user smallta

Re: CVSROOT history read/write permission error (on "cvs import")

2001-10-12 Thread Dr Jaime V. Miro
Hi Larry, I kinda figured there were a problem with file permissions. To that end, I uninstalled cvs 1.10 and downloaded and installed 1.11.1p. But this time, I ran the command "cvs init" as a normal user (once the user was added to "cvs" group) instead of root as suggested in HOWTO (http://w

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 11:22:37 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > Conflicts are extremely easy to produce and may not be easily resolved. Hmmm. and how is this different from any other change control process? In non-parallel processes some

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:08:38 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > I gain the requirement of having to type multiple "cvs log" or "cvs rlog" > commands, after figuring out every place a file has lived during its > lifetime. I gain t

Re: Making a file writeable

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 11:21:03 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Making a file writeable > > Freedom? What freedom? Is it not source "control" or is it source "freedom"? > One is free to more easily and quickly lay waste to another's work, but that's > hardly an improvement. >

cvs co -d .

2001-10-12 Thread Zanabria, Moises
Hi Guys: I sent and email some weeks ago regarding to "cvs co -d . oracle32/make" and the server send me this error cvs server: existing repository /home/kmcvs/src does not match /home/kmcvs/src/oracle32 cvs server: ignoring module oracle32/make I was looking into in the archives files and I saw

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:12:44 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] > Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs] > > >--- Forwarded mail from Greg Woods: > >Let me repeat: You DO NOT want or need to have "cvs log BAR" list > >changes in the file "FOO". To want that is illogical.

Re: Making a file writeable

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 23:16:48 (-0600), James Knowles wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Making a file writeable > > I guess it's like freedom. Freedom scares the living daylights out of people > conditioned to living under tight controls. Very good point. Some (many? most?) people just aren'

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 04:05:42 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, > protective AND productive. Without some sort of locking, having developers waste > time with

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 00:06:34 (-0400), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" > >devel

Re: Why can't root check in files?

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Using my script it takes 10 mins to put your system under CVS control. > The learning curve in the simplest case is: > > $ su > # cvs-etc If you're using su to get to root, then CVS should be able to figure out your real userid and you should be able to

Re: cvs exit status

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, October 11, 2001 at 20:06:18 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] > Subject: Re: cvs exit status > > > cvs update > > if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then > > echo "something bad happened, exit status is $?" > > fi > > exit $? > > Neither of our scripts is truly useful becau

Re: Problems with checking out repositories

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > 2. After that, i try to check out the same repository into another directory > to get the actual files. But i got > following messages >cvs checkout: Updating watchdogs > ? watchdogs/arrays > ? watchdogs/clean_tmps > ? watchdogs/diskstat > ? watch

Re: subscribe

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > When I do : > cvs admin -mHEAD:"My changed log message" > the actual log found in the repository ,v is just "My", the first > word of the changed message. That is a problem with your operating system/command interpreter, not CVS. -Larry Jones The surgeon gen

Re: CVSROOT history read/write permission error (on "cvs import")

2001-10-12 Thread Larry Jones
Dr Jaime V. Miro writes: > > According to HOWTO, import is executed as a normal user, whereas $CVROOT > (under which the repository is installed) and files under have got > root permissions only (o/g/u), which is the way it was installed. > I can see why is giving me the permission error, but I

Question regarding locking

2001-10-12 Thread Mark Lancisi
I've got two top level projects in a single cvs repository.   I'd like to lock one of those projects. In other words, I'd like for everyone, except maybe one or two users, to be read only users of one of the projects. The other projects needs to remain read/write for all. It looks like I ca

Re: How to lock CVS for check-in

2001-10-12 Thread Jake Colman
> "GAW" == Greg A Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GAW> Far worse are operations which add, delete, or move, tags; but as GAW> I've mentioned several times again recently it would be very easy to GAW> add an additional access control for those kinds of things, at least GAW> o

RE: Anyone have VSS2CVS?

2001-10-12 Thread Gianni Mariani
We *have* changed to CVS. Some of the reasons. - cross platform support (win32/unix/mac) - has all features we cared about in VSS - easy remote access - concurrent model development - easy handling of branches - easy merging - easy to write tools to co-ordinate with bug system - bugzilla - vario

Re: [kfogel@collab.net: Re: rename in cvs]

2001-10-12 Thread Sam Steingold
> * In message <6npx7.65227$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * On the subject of "Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: rename in cvs]" > * Sent on Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:50:42 GMT > * Honorable [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) writes: > > >why can't "cvs mv" just rename the *,v file? > > Because then if you check

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: Bryon Lape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, > that would be helpful, > protective AND productive. Without some sort of locking, > having developers waste > time with doing merging by hand is count

Problems with checking out repositories

2001-10-12 Thread wolfgang--onsys . leideck
Hello cvs users. I have following problem. 1. I check out a repository into a temporary directory, edit some files and do than a commit and a release -d. 2. After that, i try to check out the same repository into another directory to get the actual files. But i got following messages

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Conflicts are easy to produce *when you have multiple developers working on the same segments of code*. If you are doing a lot of that without any coordination between the developers, you are going to have a lot of problems. Period. ___ Info-cvs mai

Re: Making a file writeable

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
The problem is that you have multiple developers modifying the same area of code without communicating with each other. The way that you haven't solved that problem in the past is to not allow two developers to be able to modify the same source file at the same time. That costs you time when the

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Your reply, as written, contradicts itself. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
I was able to use Netscape get to the patches. Exactly what are you doing? Noel Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. Paul Sander wrote: Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. Noel Kaz Kylheku wrote: > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > incorporated

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
>> Conflicts are extremely easy to produce and may not be easily resolved. > >The issue it seems you are having is that on a regular basis, two or more >developers making large abouts of unrelated changes to same sections of code. >This problem cannot be solved by locking checkouts, or by any ch

Re: Making a file writeable

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
>Then spend time doing the merge by hand and having to >possibly to ahold of the programmer who made other changes to make sure everything >is done correctly. Now two programmers, at least, are being unproductive and >costs are going up. Don't you have regression tests to check if you've broke

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
If you've really made up your mind then don't use CVS. But think about this first: Why are you the only group I know who has tried parallel development and didn't like it? Noel *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Read Berliner's whole

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
It sounds like the software your group is maintaining needs factoring to decrease the likelihood that several developers are modifying the same method. It also sounds like your group can use some communication. Noel "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it mea

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark
--- Bryon Lape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaz Kylheku wrote: > > > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > > incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do > > you have to do res

Re: cvs edit -c command

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
I got the link through clicking. I think you're doing something wrong. Can you explain all the steps you're taking? Better yet, I'll tell you how I got to the patches: 1. User your browser to go to http://www.sourceforge.com/ 2. Enter "RCVS" into the search field 3. Click on "Renegade CVS" 4. C

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. Paul Sander wrote: Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680 >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Wo?  Ich kann nicht es gefunden. >Paul Sander wrote: >> Th

Re: Module directory nameing....

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
James Knowles wrote: > > now if I can just add locking to CVS > > Try understanding client-oriented parallel development. It will cause less > heartburn, reduce your stress, and reduce the rate of hair loss. None of these problems I have. I just don't have time to spend days on a worthless

CVS update problem

2001-10-12 Thread Nagaraj Birur
Hi, I have 2 repositories (say A and B). A file is common to both these repositories. This file is undergoing simultaneous modifications (independently checked out from both the repositories). I need to merge both the modifications. I tried to move the file from repository A to the relevent dir

Re: Making a file writeable

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Freedom? What freedom? Is it not source "control" or is it source "freedom"? One is free to more easily and quickly lay waste to another's work, but that's hardly an improvement. CVS smells just like what it is, an acedemic exercize. I've used all manner of them over the years: PostgreSQL, Ha

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Kaz Kylheku wrote: > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do > you have to do resolution by hand. Conflicts tend to occur rarely, and >

CVSROOT history read/write permission error (on "cvs import")

2001-10-12 Thread Dr Jaime V. Miro
... easy on me, CVS Newbie!! :-) Hi, This is probably a silly permission error problem, but can't figure it out: I've installed CVS following the HOWTO tutorial under linux (RH6.1). It installed fine (v 1.10.6). However, when I try and import a source tree with the "cvs import" command, I

Re: Removing a repository

2001-10-12 Thread Marian Seitner
Hi! > The 1.1.1.1 version number is a an internal CVS feature having to do > with vendor branching. Your newly imported files have both a 1.1 and > a 1.1.1.1 revision number. Don't worry about it, when you commit new > versions to these files, they will go to 1.2, and the next > vendor import wil

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2001-10-12 Thread christophe-olivier . guglielmi
Subject : CVS admin -m : bug ? Hello, I don't seem to fully understand the way cvs admin -m works; it is intended to change a given file revision log message to another. When I do : cvs admin -mHEAD:"My changed log message" the actual log found in the repository ,v is just "My", the first

RE: Anyone have VSS2CVS?

2001-10-12 Thread Fernando Gomes
Are you changing from VSS to CVS? Can you tell me your reasons? I'm trying to convince here at the company where I work to do the same, so all arguments I can get are usefull Thanks in advance Fernando > -Original Message- > From: Gianni Mariani [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sexta-fe

RE: Anyone have VSS2CVS?

2001-10-12 Thread Gianni Mariani
Try: http://www.laine.org:8080/cvs/vss2cvs/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Jacques Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone have VSS2CVS? The site for vss2cvs (http://www.laine.org/cvs/vss