Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-09-22 Thread Vlad Stelmahovsky
so the question: how to make it matter? On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jason H wrote: > I've never seen it claimed that voting matters 1 iota. > > I guess what we're asking for here is more prioritization transparency? > > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 2:27 AM >

Re: [Interest] Optimizations in debug configuration

2016-09-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 23 de setembro de 2016 01:52:28 PDT Konstantin Shegunov wrote: > Hello, > What's the rationale of having -O2 for debug builds on Linux (g++)? As the > compiler moves the assembly around it becomes hell stepping through with > the debugger. Is the flag passed intentionally (and

Re: [Interest] Qt, running as root (sudo/setuid), DBus and OS X

2016-09-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 23 de setembro de 2016 01:06:31 PDT René J. V. Bertin wrote: > Ch'Gans wrote: > >> It's not possible to connect to another user's session bus. > > > > I'm not trying to say that this is what René should do, I'm just > > saying that it is technically possible, for the sake of

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Jason H
> On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 20:10:32 PDT Jason H wrote: > > > On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 17:36:44 PDT Jason H wrote: > > > > So I'm still looking for protocol 17 documentation. I need to provide > > > > this > > > > documentation to an outside implementer. > > > > > >

Re: [Interest] Optimizations in debug configuration

2016-09-22 Thread Konstantin Shegunov
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo < giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com> wrote: > > Hope this helps > It does, thanks! I wasn't talking about profiling, but your answer pointed me in the right direction. Apparently I have a sneaky flag somewhere in my build configuration which shouldn't be

[Interest] dynamically populated submenus remaining empty/disabled on OS X

2016-09-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, I'm seeing a weird issue with two of Kate's menu items, on OS X. When the menubar sits at the top of the screen as is the default on OS X, 2 the Tools/Mode menu that selects the document content type contains only disabled submenus. Normally those submenus (Markup, Sources, Science etc)

Re: [Interest] Dealing with Qt 4.x docs in Google searches (Was: "What don't you like about Qt?")

2016-09-22 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
Il 18/09/2016 12:02, Elvis Stansvik ha scritto: >>> >> It lets you filter Google searches such that only your specified >>> >> version of Qt is shown. >> > >> > >> > Nice, I use Firefox but that's a good thing to share :) >> > I just tried : QObject, QString, QList point to Qt 5.7 first, but for

Re: [Interest] Optimizations in debug configuration

2016-09-22 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
Hi, Il 23/09/2016 00:52, Konstantin Shegunov ha scritto: > What's the rationale of having -O2 for debug builds on Linux (g++)? As > the compiler moves the assembly around it becomes hell stepping through > with the debugger. Is the flag passed intentionally (and why)? This kind of builds

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Sze Howe Koh
On 22 September 2016 at 23:11, Jason H wrote: > Nevermind. The trick does work. I have no idea what I did wrong. > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/datastreamformat.html > > "qt5 serialization" is what I had to search for. The 5.x page never came up > in the Google results, only 4.8. I

Re: [Interest] Qt, running as root (sudo/setuid), DBus and OS X

2016-09-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Ch'Gans wrote: >> It's not possible to connect to another user's session bus. > I'm not trying to say that this is what René should do, I'm just > saying that it is technically possible, for the sake of correctness. My first attempts to get a privileged service to work involved exporting my

[Interest] Optimizations in debug configuration

2016-09-22 Thread Konstantin Shegunov
Hello, What's the rationale of having -O2 for debug builds on Linux (g++)? As the compiler moves the assembly around it becomes hell stepping through with the debugger. Is the flag passed intentionally (and why)? Kind regards. ___ Interest mailing list

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Elvis Stansvik
2016-09-22 21:12 GMT+02:00 Thiago Macieira : > On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 20:10:32 PDT Jason H wrote: >> > On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 17:36:44 PDT Jason H wrote: >> > > So I'm still looking for protocol 17 documentation. I need to provide >> > >

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 20:10:32 PDT Jason H wrote: > > On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 17:36:44 PDT Jason H wrote: > > > So I'm still looking for protocol 17 documentation. I need to provide > > > this > > > documentation to an outside implementer. > > > > It doesn't

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 19:03:29 PDT Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Thiago Macieira > > wrote: > > We don't update the QTextStream format documentation. > > Do you mean QDataStream? > > Anyhow, well, that's the problem. We

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > We don't update the QTextStream format documentation. Do you mean QDataStream? Anyhow, well, that's the problem. We should do it, at review time (if we're touching streaming operators into QDataStream, update

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 18:56:31 PDT Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Thiago Macieira > > wrote: > > It doesn't exist. You'll have to write it. > > This is actually pointing out a problem in the review process and in > the

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 22 de setembro de 2016 17:36:44 PDT Jason H wrote: > So I'm still looking for protocol 17 documentation. I need to provide this > documentation to an outside implementer. It doesn't exist. You'll have to write it. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Jason H
> 22.09.2016, 18:11, "Jason H" : > > Nevermind. The trick does work. I have no idea what I did wrong. > > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/datastreamformat.html > > > > "qt5 serialization" is what I had to search for. The 5.x page never came up > > in the Google results, only 4.8. I think

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
22.09.2016, 18:11, "Jason H" : > Nevermind. The trick does work. I have no idea what I did wrong. > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/datastreamformat.html > > "qt5 serialization" is what I had to search for. The 5.x page never came up > in the Google results, only 4.8. I think we need to

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Jason H
Alas, still out of date: "The QDataStream allows you to serialize some of the Qt data types. The table below lists the data types that QDataStream can serialize and how they are represented. The format described below is version 12." The version in 5.6/5.7 is 17. Anyone have more recent

Re: [Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Jason H
Nevermind. The trick does work. I have no idea what I did wrong. http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/datastreamformat.html "qt5 serialization" is what I had to search for. The 5.x page never came up in the Google results, only 4.8. I think we need to add something to the Qt.io site that allows you to select

Re: [Interest] Anyone at CppCon?

2016-09-22 Thread charleyb123 .
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo < giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com> wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm at CppCon 2016 right now. Was wondering if some other fellow Qt > user/developer was around. Let's raise our hands :-) > > Cheers, > -- > Giuseppe D'Angelo | giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com | Senior

[Interest] Current QDataStream format documentation?

2016-09-22 Thread Jason H
There used to be a page on QDataStream serialization: http://doc.qt.io/qt-4.8/datastreamformat.html The normal trick does not work: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/datastreamformat.html -> 404. Where can I find it? There were two additional protocol version since 4.8.

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-09-22 Thread Jason H
I've never seen it claimed that voting matters 1 iota.   I guess what we're asking for here is more prioritization transparency?     Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 2:27 AM From: "Vlad Stelmahovsky" To: "Jason H" Cc: interest

Re: [Interest] console on OSX

2016-09-22 Thread Konstantin Shegunov
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:27 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > > That's fine if you're running in a terminal emulator which already > connects the keyboard to stdin, and stdout to the display... > Right, I misunderstood, sorry. ___

Re: [Interest] console on OSX

2016-09-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday September 22 2016 12:03:21 Konstantin Shegunov wrote: > QTextStream isn't good for that? > > QTextStream in(stdin), out(stdout); That's fine if you're running in a terminal emulator which already connects the keyboard to stdin, and stdout to the display...

Re: [Interest] console on OSX

2016-09-22 Thread Konstantin Shegunov
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:09 AM, René J. V. Bertin wrote: > but just need to be able to read from stdin and write to > stdout/stderr? > QTextStream isn't good for that? QTextStream in(stdin), out(stdout); int readFromConsole; in >> readFromConsole; out <<

Re: [Interest] console on OSX

2016-09-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Thiago Macieira wrote: PS: is there no (free) 3rd party QtConsole class out there, one that implements a more-or-less minimal console for applications that do not use *curses, readline, etc. but just need to be able to read from stdin and write to stdout/stderr? R.

Re: [Interest] console on OSX

2016-09-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Thiago Macieira wrote: > For macOS, there may be something equivalent in the Info.plist file for your > bundle. Please consult Apple documentation. No, not that I know of. The automatic way of launching a console application via Terminal is to build is as a traditional (POSIX-style)

[Interest] Cannot build Qt5.8 for watchOS/iOS

2016-09-22 Thread Aleksander Dej
Hi, I've got Qt iOS application and wanted to add watchOS part, but got a problem compiling Qt with bitcode enabled, which is the requirement. That's why I downloaded latest source of Qt5.8 and tried to compile it on my own but coma across some problems. I got newest Xcode 8(maybe that's the

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-09-22 Thread Vlad Stelmahovsky
Actually you can vote for it and promote to other users to vote for it. More votes - more chances issue to be solved On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Jason H wrote: > This gets at what I don't like about Qt the most: As a user I have no > control of where it goes. I can (and do)

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-09-22 Thread Bo Thorsen
Den 21-09-2016 kl. 23:53 skrev André Pönitz: On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:42:44AM +, Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Sep 20, 2016, at 22:52, Rob Allan wrote: My biggest gripe is that the Qt Quick object model seems to be much more poorly supported in C++ than it is in QML.

Re: [Interest] Can't build Qt 5.8 alpha (Windows)

2016-09-22 Thread Tuukka Turunen
> -Original Message- > From: Interest [mailto:interest-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt.io@qt- > project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira > Sent: torstaina 22. syyskuuta 2016 4.40 > To: interest@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Interest] Can't build Qt 5.8 alpha (Windows) > > On quarta-feira, 21