TERRIER
Date: Monday, 3. May 2021 at 19.22
To: eric.fedosej...@gmail.com
Cc: Qt Interest
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
Le lun. 3 mai 2021 à 18:03,
mailto:eric.fedosej...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
So basically open source/standard Qt was considered appropriate for safety
critical devices
On 5/3/21, 11:40 AM, "Interest on behalf of Matthew Woehlke"
wrote:
Isn't it obvious? Once upon a time, before they "lost their way", Qt was
useful to him. He was passionate about *that* Qt and wants it back.
I understand *exactly* how he feels.
I get the frustration. But I think
Le lun. 3 mai 2021 à 18:03, a écrit :
> So basically open source/standard Qt was considered appropriate for safety
> critical devices prior to the introduction of Safe Renderer in 2017, but
> now only commercial Qt with Safe Renderer is appropriate for that purpose.
>
>
>
> Before anyone says
.
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 at 11:23 AM
From: eric.fedosej...@gmail.com
To: "'Benjamin TERRIER'" , "'Bob Hood'"
Cc: "'Qt Interest'"
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
I find this whole argument that Qt is not appropriate for functional safety very puzzling. Aren’t
.com
Date: Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:24 AM
To: 'Benjamin TERRIER' , 'Bob Hood'
Cc: 'Qt Interest'
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
I find this whole argument that Qt is not appropriate for functional safety
very puzzling. Aren’t vehicle dashboards QtC’s main market these days? What are
.”
From: Benjamin TERRIER
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:46 AM
To: Matthew Woehlke
Cc: eric.fedosej...@gmail.com; Qt Interest
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
Le lun. 3 mai 2021 à 17:33, Matthew Woehlke mailto:mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com> > a écrit :
On 03/05/2021 11.23, eric.f
Le lun. 3 mai 2021 à 17:33, Matthew Woehlke a
écrit :
> On 03/05/2021 11.23, eric.fedosej...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I find this whole argument that Qt is not appropriate for functional
> > safety very puzzling. Aren’t vehicle dashboards QtC’s main market
> > these days? What are vehicle dashboards
Le lun. 3 mai 2021 à 17:36, Matthew Woehlke a
écrit :
> On 29/04/2021 15.24, Ben Haller via Interest wrote:
> > If I'm not mistaken, not a single person has posted to this "L Word"
> > thread in defense of Roland's right to act as he has been acting,
> > have they?
> Given that we live in a
Prime billing on QtC's front page is a picture of the combined
dashboard/infotainment system for the 2019 Mercedes-Benz A-Class.
Dashboard is definitely safety critical in eyes of regulators. Infotainment
system too if is integrated with backup cam.
-Original Message-
From: Matthew
On 30/04/2021 11.20, Jason H wrote:
I have mixed feelings about the whole situation. I think Roland is right, or at
least has a valid point most of the time, even if it is technical or limited to
a specific use case.
[...]
Personally, I don't understand why if he hates it so much he participates
On 29/04/2021 15.24, Ben Haller via Interest wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, not a single person has posted to this "L Word"
thread in defense of Roland's right to act as he has been acting,
have they?
Given that we live in a culture where anyone doing so is likely to get
banned right alongside
On 03/05/2021 11.23, eric.fedosej...@gmail.com wrote:
I find this whole argument that Qt is not appropriate for functional
safety very puzzling. Aren’t vehicle dashboards QtC’s main market
these days? What are vehicle dashboards if not safety critical?
Are they? I thought it was infotainment
for vehicle dashboards?
From: Interest On Behalf Of Benjamin TERRIER
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:27 AM
To: Bob Hood
Cc: Qt Interest
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 15:15, Bob Hood mailto:bho...@comcast.net> > wrote:
On 4/29/2021 4:02 AM, Bernhard L
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:48 PM Robert Hairgrove
wrote:
> There IS the other forum at https://forum.qt.io/ ...
>
> It has lots of subforums which would seem adequate for off-topic content
> as long as it even remotely concerns Qt.
>
Yes, we are lenient, probably sometimes to a fault, but we have
ban.
>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:12 AM
> From: "Jeffrey Brendecke"
> To: interest@qt-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
> I, too, am one of those list lurkers looking for interesting information and
> discussions on Qt, but all too often I instea
There IS the other forum at https://forum.qt.io/ ...
It has lots of subforums which would seem adequate for off-topic content
as long as it even remotely concerns Qt.
Bob
--
On 30.04.21 17:20, Jason H wrote:
Maybe the answer is another mailing list, "qt-offtopic" or whatever,
and we can
e participates the way he does? It seems like ge's mobing away from Qt on his own? I suspect that he probably won't return after the ban.
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:12 AM
From: "Jeffrey Brendecke"
To: interest@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
I, too, am one of th
I, too, am one of those list lurkers looking for interesting information and
discussions on Qt, but all too often I instead see posts from one unpleasant
person repeatedly dominating discussions with belligerent, non-productive
rantings. I wonder why he even uses Qt or even spends time thinking
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:56 PM Bernhard Lindner <
priv...@bernhard-lindner.de> wrote:
> Agreed. Why not configuring e-mail filters? This is what I would do. This
> is definitely
> better than leaving the list or getting angry and also better than waiting
> for the
> moderators taking actions for
On 4/30/21, 7:06 AM, "Lars Knoll" wrote:
If he decides to come back after that I do expect that his emails follow
our CoC and stay on topic for this mailing list. Any further violations will
lead to a permanent ban.
Thanks, Lars, both for the ban and the explanation. Sigh of relief from
If I came from Mars that still wouldn't give me the right to abuse,
insult or demean other people on this list.
You clearly did not read the secret Martian amendment to the code of
conduct. Roland has. We're neighbors.
Anyway, the amount of popcorn I have ingested reading this list tells me
ay, 29. April 2021 at 14.23
To: Bernhard Lindner
mailto:priv...@bernhard-lindner.de>>
Cc: interest@qt-project.org<mailto:interest@qt-project.org>
mailto:interest@qt-project.org>>
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
Yeah, maybe that's part of the problem but, as you said, the solution
sho
llenging part is to decide when it is time to
> do that.
>
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Tuukka
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Interest on behalf of
> Massimiliano Maini
> *Date: *Thursday, 29. April 2021 at 14.23
> *To: *Bernhard Lindner
> *Cc: *interest@
> > Hence, I'll be removing myself from this list, effective immediately.
>
> I do hope you reconsider, it's going to be a loss for you, but much bigger
> loss for us.
Agreed. Why not configuring e-mail filters? This is what I would do. This is
definitely
better than leaving the list or
Ronald -> Roland
Sorry about the typo.
___
Interest mailing list
Interest@qt-project.org
https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
And so we lost one of the most active, contributing, and knowledgeable
members of this mailing list.
Cue "the worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere" meme.
I was thinking of putting him in CC but I don't think I should bother
the man.
I sure did respect Giuseppe, and I can totally get
+1.
I am mostly a lurker on this list, but I have asked a few questions and
learned a bunch of things. I would like to remain subscribed to it; it
is useful to me. But Roland is destroying the list. As Benjamin writes
below, at least some of the issues Roland raises are valid, and the
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:27 AM Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest <
interest@qt-project.org> wrote:
> I don't. And I don't send ultimatums or threats of libel lawsuits
> (seriously?) around, including to the moderators, in order to force them
> to make a move.
Well, us "script kiddies"* don't
> The other part of the problem is that he doesn't come from the world of
> well-adjusted,
> well-behaved people. This could answer your question.
Well, I have met a lot of such people in my life. Such people tend to think
different
and/or critical and/or they are straight, which is something
views would likely be less obscure and more in the majority.
Scott
From: Interest On Behalf Of Ilya Diallo
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 06:04
To: Tuukka Turunen
Cc: interest@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
Easy solution: create the rol...@qt-projet.org<mailto:rol...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 15:15, Bob Hood wrote:
> On 4/29/2021 4:02 AM, Bernhard Lindner wrote:
>
> Obviously, Qt has nothing to do with this type of software engineering. And
> it's obviously
> not suitable for functional safety (at least not if you take it seriously).
>
>
> If this statement is
On 4/29/2021 4:02 AM, Bernhard Lindner wrote:
Obviously, Qt has nothing to do with this type of software engineering. And
it's obviously
not suitable for functional safety (at least not if you take it seriously).
If this statement is true /and/ Roland's statement that TQC actively courted
enging part is to decide when it is time to
> do that.
>
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Tuukka
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Interest on behalf of
> Massimiliano Maini
> *Date: *Thursday, 29. April 2021 at 14.23
> *To: *Bernhard Lindner
> *Cc: *interest@qt
it is time to do that.
Yours,
Tuukka
From: Interest on behalf of Massimiliano
Maini
Date: Thursday, 29. April 2021 at 14.23
To: Bernhard Lindner
Cc: interest@qt-project.org
Subject: Re: [Interest] L Word
Yeah, maybe that's part of the problem but, as you said, the solution
Yeah, maybe that's part of the problem but, as you said, the solution
should be simple: he leaves the mailing list
or, if that's not possible, the admins "make him leave".
On top, with his ramblings and often totally wrong assertions (the
"April's fool link"-gate scandal has been absolutely
The other part of the problem is that he doesn't come from the world of
well-adjusted, well-behaved people. This could answer your question.
Le jeu. 29 avr. 2021 à 12:05, Bernhard Lindner
a écrit :
> The main problem isn't trolling. The main problem is: Roland comes from a
> completely
>
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:05 PM Bernhard Lindner
wrote:
> What I don't understand is why Roland doesn't just leave the mailing list and
> forget about
> Qt.
IMHO, it's a business model.
Distribute the links to your books and your web-site,
and hopefully, sell the books and/or find new
The main problem isn't trolling. The main problem is: Roland comes from a
completely
different world. The world of functional safety. This world is difficult and a
completely
different from conventional software development. It is particularly different
from
smartphone and web development. And
Most time just reader here, but it's sad to see that one person has a lot of fun destroying a mailing list. "congrats" on this, Troll.Br /RAm 29.04.2021 10:41 schrieb Filip Piechocki :I totally agree with you, Guiseppe.I am subscribed to this list for a long time as it happened several times in
On 2021-04-29 11:45, Nuno Santos wrote:
+1
+1
On 29 Apr 2021, at 10:37, Florian Bruhin wrote:
Hey everyone,
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:13:13PM +0300, coroberti wrote:
Dear Guiseppe,
You were very helpful for the list members and personally to me.
The list will deteriorate without you.
+1
> On 29 Apr 2021, at 10:37, Florian Bruhin wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:13:13PM +0300, coroberti wrote:
>> Dear Guiseppe,
>> You were very helpful for the list members and personally to me.
>> The list will deteriorate without you.
>>
>> Sincerely hope that the
Hey everyone,
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:13:13PM +0300, coroberti wrote:
> Dear Guiseppe,
> You were very helpful for the list members and personally to me.
> The list will deteriorate without you.
>
> Sincerely hope that the moderator will start to function and to do something.
>
> Note, that
Dear Guiseppe,
You were very helpful for the list members and personally to me.
The list will deteriorate without you.
Sincerely hope that the moderator will start to function and to do something.
Note, that for Roland it's a pure business - spread links and sell
books, support, perhaps projects
I totally agree with you, Guiseppe.
I am subscribed to this list for a long time as it happened several times
in the past that the issues I was facing with Qt were already solved here.
But the list became more of a Roland's trolling sandbox, where he is
throwing sand in others' eyes and having
On 29/04/2021 00:42, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest wrote:
If the answer is yes, you were lying. If the answer is no, or you don't
answer, then you're trolling the mailing list. You'll get my apology;
I'll even throw in, for free, my personal congratulations for the long
trolling. But, you'll
On 29/04/2021 00:08, Roland Hughes wrote:
On 4/21/21 5:00 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote:
On your right: witness B, found to be lying multiple times in the past
I have never lied in here. Been incorrect at times? Most assuredly at
some point. I have never lied.
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