Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-22 Thread JŽerome Fleury
Mike Lieberman a écrit : Ron, I think most of us agree with you that it's a bad idea. However I don't think it's InterMapper's role to enforce best network practices. I am very concerned that we don't do that. We all use InterMapper in different ways and for different

Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-07 Thread Jeff Kell
Alain Fontaine wrote: 2) What about /32 subnets? Is anyone using them? (see the links below that discuss how they're used...) Loopback interfaces are often configured with /32 addresses. We have dozens of them, all for good reasons, or so we think. I've never seen InterMapper

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-07 Thread Quezada, Pedro
Intermapper should just display what ever mask an administrator configures. Intermapper job is to display what is on the router.No exceptions This email (including any attachments) is for its intended-recipient's use only. This email may contain information that is confidential or privileged.

Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-07 Thread Charley Kline
I agree, but a potential good value-added is the ability to detect potential configuration mistakes. We rely here on a lot of automation tools, one of which is InterMapper, to check our work. Perhaps the best compromise is to have a global or per-map server configuration checkbox, Call out

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-06 Thread Poley, Jason
I for one would NOT welcome this change. The RFC's are holy for a reason. If you're not Microsoft, then you SHOULD follow them ;). JDP PS: The key words MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT,SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, MAY, and OPTIONAL in this document are to be

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-06 Thread Alain Fontaine
À (At) 13:13 -0500 2007-03-02, Richard E. Brown écrivait (wrote) : 1) /31 subnets. It seems as if there are proponents of both sides: people who never intend to deploy a /31 subnet, (and want a facility to warn them if they've done so); and people who regularly use them on point-to-point

Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-02 Thread Alain Fontaine
À (At) 11:07 -0800 2007-03-01, ron écrivait (wrote) : I think turning off the capability is a bad idea. If you are going to ignore the RFCs, it should always be indicated so that when you leave, the land mines you create should be flagged. Believe it or not, I am not ignoring the RFCs.

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-02 Thread Richard E. Brown
Folks: Thanks for the spirited discussion of how you use various kinds of subnets. It's helpful to hear all this so that InterMapper can do the right thing for our customers. In pursuit of this goal, I'd like to expand the discussion so that we can understand all the possibilities. 1)

Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-02 Thread Jeff Kell
Richard E. Brown wrote: 2)What about /32 subnets? Is anyone using them? (see the links below that discuss how they're used...) Yes, but primarily for loopbacks, not end devices. Jeff List archives:

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-02 Thread Quezada, Pedro
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard E. Brown Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:14 PM To: InterMapper-Talk@list.dartware.com Subject: RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks Folks: Thanks for the spirited discussion of how you use various kinds of subnets. It's helpful to hear all this so that InterMapper

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-02 Thread Mike Lieberman
@list.dartware.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard E. Brown Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:14 AM To: InterMapper-Talk@list.dartware.com Subject: RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks Folks: Thanks for the spirited discussion of how you use various kinds of subnets. It's helpful to hear all this so

Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-01 Thread Jakob Peterhänsel
Hi, Not for me.. Jakob Peterhänsel Be a part of the Love Generation - carry a smile, not a gun. - JP, May 2006 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Marook Phone: +45 29687104 On 01/03/2007, at 9.10, Alain Fontaine wrote: Hi, In order to save addresses, we are using /31

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-01 Thread Mike Lieberman
Message- From: InterMapper-Talk@list.dartware.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jakob Peterhänsel Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 6:59 AM To: InterMapper Discussion Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks Hi, Not for me.. Jakob Peterhänsel Be a part of the Love Generation

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-01 Thread mdurand
-Talk] /31 network masks Hi, Not for me.. Jakob Peterhänsel Be a part of the Love Generation - carry a smile, not a gun. - JP, May 2006 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Marook Phone: +45 29687104 On 01/03/2007, at 9.10, Alain Fontaine wrote: Hi, In order

RE: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-01 Thread Mike Lieberman
, Mike Lieberman -Original Message- From: InterMapper-Talk@list.dartware.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ron Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:07 PM To: InterMapper Discussion Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks I think turning off the capability is a bad idea. If you are going

Re: [IM-Talk] /31 network masks

2007-03-01 Thread Matt Stevens
We're starting to toy with this idea as well, so we'd welcome support for turning this off. -- matt There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and that is an idea whose time has come. — Victor Hugo Alain Fontaine wrote: Hi, In order to save addresses, we are using /31