Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd)

2013-02-22 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 08:44 +0100, Martin Keckeis wrote: I think there may come many critics maybe, but why not move those things also to github? It's used by many people. it works, it's easy! It is easily two steps back. Yay! (Tags are funny but don't help with categorization of bugs on

[PHP-DEV] PHP 5.5 alpha 5 is released

2013-02-22 Thread Julien Pauli
Hi Internals, PHP 5.5.0alpha5 has been tagged and released. This release contains bug fixes against alpha4, and adds new features in the mysqli and mysqlnd API, new HTTP codes and the possibility to change the temp directory using a php.ini directive. The packages can be found at:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd)

2013-02-22 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Martin Keckeis martin.kecke...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/2/21 Johannes Schlüter johan...@schlueters.de On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 19:13 +0100, Pascal Chevrel wrote: I am specifically thinking of Bugzilla which is already used by many open source projects. It

Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd)

2013-02-22 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Johannes Schlüter johan...@schlueters.dewrote: On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 08:44 +0100, Martin Keckeis wrote: I think there may come many critics maybe, but why not move those things also to github? It's used by many people. it works, it's easy! It is easily

[PHP-DEV] Re: [lists.php] Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 : a new API ?

2013-02-22 Thread ALeX
So why not avoiding this by adding it as methods of the scalar variable instead, aka autoboxing. This would allow the new api to be closer to what people are used to from other languages, needs far less typing and IDE autocomplete of available functions pr type with -. I would also prefer

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP causing high number of NFS getattr operations?

2013-02-22 Thread Terry Ellison
Ramus, thanks for your detailed response. NFS is so common for sharing files that ... This is simply not true. I do have a fair bit of experience in this field, and I don't know of any major sites that do this and I have worked with a good chunk of the largest sites out there. Eh??? Fortune

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP causing high number of NFS getattr operations?

2013-02-22 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
My challenge is deciding (i) do I work on PHP 5.6 / 5.7 and the corresponding beta APC version which at current rates of adoption might have begin to have an impact in the community sometime in the next 5 years, or (ii) work on a performance patch to the stable APC version which is typically

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP causing high number of NFS getattr operations?

2013-02-22 Thread Terry Ellison
On 22/02/13 11:20, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: My challenge is deciding (i) do I work on PHP 5.6 / 5.7 and the corresponding beta APC version which at current rates of adoption might have begin to have an impact in the community sometime in the next 5 years, or (ii) work on a

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP causing high number of NFS getattr operations?

2013-02-22 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Terry Ellison te...@ellisons.org.ukwrote: On 22/02/13 11:20, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: My challenge is deciding (i) do I work on PHP 5.6 / 5.7 and the corresponding beta APC version which at current rates of adoption might have begin to have an impact in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Improved Linux process title support in the CLI SAPI

2013-02-22 Thread Christopher Jones
On 02/21/2013 04:42 PM, Keyur Govande wrote: Hi everyone, With the 2 weeks discussion period up, I'm moving this RFC to the Voting stage. I'd like to get this into 5.5. Most of the reaction has been positive and is archived here: http://marc.info/?t=13602158203r=1w=2 Please vote on

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Improved Linux process title support in the CLI SAPI

2013-02-22 Thread Christopher Jones
On 02/22/2013 10:22 AM, Christopher Jones wrote: On 02/21/2013 04:42 PM, Keyur Govande wrote: Hi everyone, With the 2 weeks discussion period up, I'm moving this RFC to the Voting stage. I'd like to get this into 5.5. Most of the reaction has been positive and is archived here:

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey

2013-02-22 Thread Florin Razvan Patan
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Christopher Jones christopher.jo...@oracle.com wrote: On 02/21/2013 03:02 AM, Florian Anderiasch wrote: On 02/21/2013 08:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I do not have a single doubt. Why? Surveys are one of many ways to get feedback. They have no contracting

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Improved Linux process title support in the CLI SAPI

2013-02-22 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Keyur Govande keyurgova...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, With the 2 weeks discussion period up, I'm moving this RFC to the Voting stage. I'd like to get this into 5.5. Most of the reaction has been positive and is archived here:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Improved Linux process title support in the CLI SAPI

2013-02-22 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 02/22/2013 11:48 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Keyur Govande keyurgova...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, With the 2 weeks discussion period up, I'm moving this RFC to the Voting stage. I'd like to get this into 5.5. Most of the reaction has been positive and

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Improved Linux process title support in the CLI SAPI

2013-02-22 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote: On 02/22/2013 11:48 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Keyur Govande keyurgova...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, With the 2 weeks discussion period up, I'm moving this RFC to the Voting

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Improved Linux process title support in the CLI SAPI

2013-02-22 Thread Keyur Govande
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote: On 02/22/2013 11:48 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Keyur Govande keyurgova...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

[PHP-DEV] rfc:trailing-comma-function-args

2013-02-22 Thread Rasmus Schultz
I've been thinking about this RCF for a while now: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/trailing-comma-function-args It just doesn't seem necessary - the only time I've ever found something like this to be necessary, is when a function takes closures or other very long arguments, some of which are

Re: [PHP-DEV] rfc:trailing-comma-function-args

2013-02-22 Thread Sebastian Krebs
2013/2/22 Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk I've been thinking about this RCF for a while now: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/trailing-comma-function-args It just doesn't seem necessary - the only time I've ever found something like this to be necessary, is when a function takes closures or other

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP causing high number of NFS getattr operations?

2013-02-22 Thread Terry Ellison
On 19/02/13 01:30, Kevin Yung wrote: In our environment, we use NFS for shared storage, we are using APC as well with stat=0. In our setting, we also experiencing high number of stat() calls on our file system. My initial finding of this problem is we enabled the open_basedir setting. And there

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Optimizer+ Source Code now available

2013-02-22 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Hey Dmitry, I noticed today that ZO+ doesn't make use of sapi_get_stat() to get the initial stat struct from the sapi if available. So, if you have top-level a.php that includes b.php and c.php you end up with: stat(/var/www/a.php, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=49, ...}) = 0 stat(/var/www/a.php,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Optimizer+ Source Code now available

2013-02-22 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 02/22/2013 07:57 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Hey Dmitry, I noticed today that ZO+ doesn't make use of sapi_get_stat() to get the initial stat struct from the sapi if available. So, if you have top-level a.php that includes b.php and c.php you end up with: stat(/var/www/a.php,