Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-16 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 19:03 -0300, Cristian Rodriguez wrote: 2007/10/15, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you? Rarely, as the year advances, people is getting more and more stressed and is certainly not fun to deal with the reports. It's fun to certain point. I've also come to same

[PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be said. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Daniel Brown
On 10/15/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be said. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/15/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be said. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 15.10.2007 22:05, Bill Moran wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be said. I don't know about Dmitry, but I can explain why I stopped looking through the bug reports lately. So here is my

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 15.10.2007 22:05, Bill Moran wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be said. I don't know about Dmitry, but I can explain why I stopped

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 15.10.2007 23:16, Bill Moran wrote: But you're confirming something I theorized ... there _is_ something wrong with the PHP community. If contributors like yourself have become so frustrated with the users that they don't want to be involved, there is a REAL problem. You misunderstood

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
2007/10/15, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you? Rarely, as the year advances, people is getting more and more stressed and is certainly not fun to deal with the reports. Also some people tend to think that their bug reports have to be reviewed now (I mean NOW!!!), unfortunately,

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bob Chatman
On 10/15/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/15/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bill Moran
Bob Chatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/15/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/15/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bill Moran
Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15.10.2007 23:16, Bill Moran wrote: But you're confirming something I theorized ... there _is_ something wrong with the PHP community. If contributors like yourself have become so frustrated with the users that they don't want to be involved,

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Bill Moran
Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15.10.2007 22:05, Bill Moran wrote: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/48 Hope that article doesn't come across as too harsh, but I really feel like it needed to be said. [snip] The only thing I get is personal insults for closing

Re: [PHP-DEV] My musings on problems I've had with the PHP community

2007-10-15 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
A few people had already given fairly clear reply as to why things happen the way they do, but since it seems are you still unclear about cause, I'll regurgitate the past comments once again. ;-) First of all you should keep in mind that PHP is an open source project as is the case with