[PHP-DEV] Re: curl_multi_info_read patch review

2006-05-02 Thread Sterling Hughes
please commit it, looks good. thanks, sterling On 5/2/06, Brian J. France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some guys at work created this patch and have been running with it for a while now. Could I get a few more eyeballs on this? http://www.brianfrance.com/software/php/curl_multi_read.patch Quote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: curl_multi_info_read patch review

2006-05-02 Thread Sterling Hughes
? It could be considered bug fix since curl_multi_info_read was there, but not implemented. Brian On May 2, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: please commit it, looks good. thanks, sterling On 5/2/06, Brian J. France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some guys at work created this patch and have

Re: [PHP-DEV] Simplexml and xml namespaces

2005-08-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hm - that shouldn't be. I think the right solution is that media:title should not show up in the children of node, unless you are looking at the proper namespace, ie, you need to use children() to get the children in that namespace. -Sterling On 8/18/05, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Simplexml and xml namespaces

2005-08-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
I agree. var_dump() should accurately expose the structure of the simplexml object, if people want to see *everything* they should dump it explicitly (there is a method in the DOM api to do this?) -Sterling On 8/19/05, Rob Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Yeah, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] curl_init() is bypassing safe_mode open_basedir restrictions

2004-10-31 Thread Sterling Hughes
I still consider adding such things wrong -sterling On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:51:12 +0400, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:26:08 + Curt Zirzow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Thus wrote Antony Dovgal: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:04:23 -0700 Sterling

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Negative string offset support

2004-10-31 Thread Sterling Hughes
i hope not. this should be about what's cool for developers, the speed increase is not a compelling reason.. the debate is does this make code easier to read/write/maintain? I think it doesn't, and therefore am against it. -sterling On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 03:04:45 +0100, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] curl_init() is bypassing safe_mode open_basedir restrictions

2004-10-29 Thread Sterling Hughes
no curl does not need to respect php's safemode, adding such checks at this level is wrong. people who compile curl, can do so without local file access, and this will solve their problem. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:51:49 +0400, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004

Re: [PHP-DEV] Negative string offset support

2004-10-29 Thread Sterling Hughes
why not add it with the {} operators then? -sterling On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:07:05 -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering what are people's opinions on adding support for negative string offsets that could be used to access data from the end of a string. Ex. $a =

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Negative string offset support

2004-10-29 Thread Sterling Hughes
I think we should not follow this discussion on internals@ and instead we should have a subcommittee to study whether or not the word need was appropriate in the context of the substring operator, or whether in fact, would be nice to have, but might be able to continue living would've been a more

Re: [PHP-DEV] Variable fetch optimization

2004-10-06 Thread Sterling Hughes
Wez Furlong wrote: I'm a big fan of making the computer do the work on our behalf (that's what it's there for, right?). It shouldn't be a huge problem to write a php script to generate the different executors from a source file. If you're worried about bootstrapping, we can keep the generated

Re: [PHP-DEV] GCC/CFLAGS Benchmark for HEAD and PHP_5_0

2004-10-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:05:04 -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting numbers, I'd like to second Marcus' request for a 4.3 benchmark. I was somewhat surprised by O2 and O1 being slower then Os, while O3 in some cases may end over optimizing which would it explain

Re: [PHP-DEV] strptime patch

2004-09-28 Thread Sterling Hughes
(CEST), Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Sterling Hughes wrote: Sterling Hughes wrote: i needed strptime() for a project i'm working on, its awful handy when you are making dates with strftime(). any objections to committing the attached patch? I think we

Re: [PHP-DEV] strptime patch

2004-09-28 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:28:39 +0100, Wez Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *cough* windows *cough* probably doesn't have strptime (not that you'd care ;-)) do we still support that platform? who knew? :-P sometimes i often wonder if Zend integrated the Performance Suite into PHP, if we could

[PHP-DEV] Fwd: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_compile.h zend_exceptions.c zend_execute.c zend_execute.h zend_execute_API.c zend_opcode.c zend_vm.h zend_vm_handlers.h zend_vm_spec.h

2004-09-09 Thread Sterling Hughes
this is actually a relevant discussion for internals... -- Forwarded message -- From: Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 23:26:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_compile.h zend_exceptions.c zend_execute.c zend_execute.h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Learning from Python: PEPping the PHP Development Process

2004-08-26 Thread Sterling Hughes
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: At last weekend's EuroFoo [1] I attended Marc-Andre Lemburg's talk [2] on the Python development process. I really wish we had a process similar to Python's PEPs [3] [4] for PHP. Having guidelines for issues like adding a

[PHP-DEV] Unmasking the error handler (was Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/dom document.c)

2004-08-26 Thread Sterling Hughes
Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Sterling Hughes wrote: That's wrong. You should *never* require an E_WARNING to be sent without being able to silence it, especially not on something so unimportant. It's just as wrong as trying to parse non-wellformed XML. Then don't add

[PHP-DEV] [TAG: Process Improvement] Re: [PHP-DEV] Learning from Python: PEPping the PHP Development

2004-08-26 Thread Sterling Hughes
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Just to clarify, I didn't propose taking the PEAR PEPr system verbatim. To be honest, I have never really used it, beyond skimming through things because it is handy that everything is in one place. I don't find our feature/change request category in the bugs database to be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Unfulfilled promises... forever experimental extensions... all over again

2004-08-25 Thread Sterling Hughes
Both you and roshan are more than welcome, if not encouraged, to stop posting if you find us childish, immature and generally uncool dude. We apologize for our inferiority, we really wish we had something better to do than respond to your mails. -Sterling Here we have a polite, if

[PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_compile.h zend_execute.c

2004-08-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
Andi Gutmans wrote: andiThu Aug 19 16:03:06 2004 EDT Modified files: /ZendEngine2 zend_compile.h zend_execute.c Log: - Stop using garbage. Please let me know if you find any bugs resulting - of this patch (very likely). (Dmitry, Andi) This patch seems to move

[PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_compile.h zend_execute.c

2004-08-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
, just checking... -Sterling At 01:28 PM 8/19/2004 -0700, Sterling Hughes wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: andiThu Aug 19 16:03:06 2004 EDT Modified files: /ZendEngine2 zend_compile.h zend_execute.c Log: - Stop using garbage. Please let me know if you find any bugs resulting

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src /ext/curl interface.c

2004-08-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
yep, that's right. On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:06:33 +1000, Dave Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: iliaa Thu Aug 19 20:55:56 2004 EDT Modified files: /php-src/ext/curl interface.c Log: Added more missing cURL options. +

[PHP-DEV] php.net announcement

2004-08-17 Thread Sterling Hughes
http://www.php.net/: Hereby we would like to kindly ask everyone who published an article or howto about installing PHP on Windows to revise those instructions according to our latest guide. These new instructions got distributed with PHP 5.0.1 in both the source code and binary versions, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: setcookie() and Max-Age

2004-08-17 Thread Sterling Hughes
+1 -Sterling On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:05:12 -0700 (PDT), Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it makes more sense to just give it an array there. I agree that +3600 is not great either as I am sure someone will try to just pass +3600 without the quotes. How about this:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Sorting Bug / Wrong behavior?

2004-08-10 Thread Sterling Hughes
i don't think sort() should be changed - this is how php works, for better or sometimes worse, changing it any other way would break BC, and it doesn't make much sense. -Sterling On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:39:19 -0700, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you expect the sort function to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Sorting Bug / Wrong behavior?

2004-08-10 Thread Sterling Hughes
] wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Sterling Hughes wrote: i don't think sort() should be changed - this is how php works, for better or sometimes worse, changing it any other way would break BC, and it doesn't make much sense. I agree that we should keep the generic sort function the same. Might

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the difference between MySql and Microsoft SQL?

2004-08-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
one thing is the same about both of them - neither of them is relevant to this list. Please stop posting to this list, it is not the appropriate place for any of your questions. -sterling On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 23:00:21 -0400, nsangineto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the difference between

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO operator

2004-08-03 Thread Sterling Hughes
It can't be doable because it makes writing an optimizer impossible. -sterling On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 11:54:28 -0700, Sara Golemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you really, really, really wanted to do such a thing, you could still do: eval(goto foo$bar;); to get the same effect,

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML returning attributes as objects instead of strings

2004-08-02 Thread Sterling Hughes
iterators... On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 16:53:49 -0400, David Sklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SimpleXML returns attribute values as SimpleXMLElement objects instead of strings. E.g, given this: $sxe = simplexml_load_string('octopus arms=eight legs=Doc Ock/octopus'); $sxe['arms'] and $sxe['legs']

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lamenting PHP's streaming support...

2004-08-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
php-general@ can answer your question... -sterling On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 16:28:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I'm trying to write some serious parsing applications in PHP. I find myself frequently lamenting the 4GL-like support for buffered streams. I'd

Re: [PHP-DEV] GOTO operator

2004-07-31 Thread Sterling Hughes
i'm just piping up that i'm a strong +1 on goto, its immensely useful for code generators, like for example a gui application that wanted to generate some type of php code. also, when you start quoting djikstra in a php context, you've lost. goto is fine, fight the power! -sterling On Sat,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory leak

2004-07-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
dooalocaaa, damnit On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:54:27 -0700, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:51 PM 7/23/2004 -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: On July 23, 2004 12:40 pm, you wrote: At 11:54 AM 7/23/2004 -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [php 4.3.5] Determining Memory Usage by Variable

2004-07-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
would be a good addition to xdebug, it couldn't be variable based, but it could be data based. On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:55:00 -0700, Bruce Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to determine how much memory a particular variable is using (either in php or in an extension)? It might be

Re: Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l

2004-07-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
i'll do it sometime, but no, this patch should be reverted (.) the performance increase is neglible - its a *bad* optimization. -sterling On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:59:14 +0200 (CEST), Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Sterling Hughes wrote: not only that but those

[PHP-DEV] Fwd: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l

2004-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
woops, discussion should be on [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- From: Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:11:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l To: Marcus Boerger [EMAIL

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l

2004-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
?php function null() { } null(); ? ?php class connected { function true() { } } if (connected::true()) { echo bar; } ? On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:26:33 +0200, dharana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but why does this breaks compatibility? Sterling Hughes wrote: woops

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l

2004-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
applications? How many people have functions that use null(), false(), true()? Andi At 08:17 AM 7/16/2004 -0700, Sterling Hughes wrote: oh, i didn't notice it at all, which i'll buy is probably my fault. :) This seems like its a bad optimization. I believing in breaking BC in some

Re: [PHP-DEV] Clarification needed

2004-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
it wasn't ported because i don't want people using it anymore, they should be using ext/xsl, period. -sterling On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:18:46 +0200, Christian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16.7.2004 11:15 Uhr, Kamesh Jayachandran wrote: Hi, I have seen that in php5.0/ext/xslt

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_execute.c

2004-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
can we put that in the release notes - php is like 50% more stable, it takes 20 seconds not 10 to crash it? -sterling On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 12:15:46 -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On July 16, 2004 11:58 am, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: hey ilia, here's another one of my

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_language_parser.y zend_language_scanner.l

2004-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
not only that but those people who want this performance boost can use apc. i'll give george a patch that solves this if no one else steps up. -sterling On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:20:08 -0700, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, I dread the INI word. It makes applications less portable. I

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] New construct discussion Summary (was: what happened to that new isset() like language construct)

2004-07-11 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:43:51 -0700 (PDT), Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Marcus Boerger wrote: $a = ifsetor($_GET['index'], $default); ifsetor() sounds a bit cumbersome to me. Some other suggestions: $a = is($_GET['index'], $default); $a =

Re: [PHP-DEV] Memory manager

2004-07-05 Thread Sterling Hughes
yes!!! i currently don't have a 32 bit linux box available to me (i'm remote in ca for all of august), however, if someone gives me shell on one, i'll bang around on it with valgrind. -sterling On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:13:12 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time), Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[PHP-DEV] fix for curl bug

2004-07-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
commit or don't, fixed for a client, that code is just stupid bogus. -sterling -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] fix for curl bug

2004-07-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
committed to head and branch. On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:43:05 -0700, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure if it's a fix I think it should go in. At 11:25 PM 6/30/2004 -0700, Sterling Hughes wrote: commit or don't, fixed for a client, that code is just stupid bogus. -sterling

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Fix for bug #28325

2004-07-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
this would still not suffice for a proper serialization, overloaded objects should have serialize and unserialize handlers something for 5.1 methinks. -sterling On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:03:09 +0900, Moriyoshi Koizumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004/07/01, at 14:25, Andi Gutmans wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading www.php.net to PHP 5.0

2004-06-28 Thread Sterling Hughes
yep, this is what I found too, and have been saying for nearly a year: http://www.edwardbear.org/blog/archives/000129.html#000129 maybe one of these days we'll give up on the ZEND_MM, which doesn't by us much anyway and has leaked since well before and after beta 1. Ok, that's my annoying I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Upgrading www.php.net to PHP 5.0

2004-06-28 Thread Sterling Hughes
be that it happens when ZEND_MM is enabled but it doesn't mean that the fault is in ZEND_MM. Check your facts first or even better, why don't you help debug the problem? Andi At 08:46 AM 6/28/2004 -0700, Sterling Hughes wrote: yep, this is what I found too, and have been saying for nearly a year

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans derick@php.net

2004-06-18 Thread Sterling Hughes
% telnet www.php.net 80 Trying 64.246.30.37... Connected to php.net. Escape character is '^]'. HEAD / HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:13:45 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a PHP/4.3.3-dev Location: http://www.php.net/ Connection: close

Re: Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] The open letter to Derick Rethans derick@php.net

2004-06-18 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:04:36 +0200, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think having php.net run PHP 5 is a pre-requisite for a release. What high traffic site is PHP5 RCx powering at the moment? Where is PHP5 being stress tested? How many people have deployed it for non-academic

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: alloca() problem

2004-06-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
So, oddly enough while responding to this, gmail is showing me Zend advertisements - just thought you should know you are getting your money's worth :) I'll buy that alloca() is harmless in the places the executor uses it (*), php segvs on highly recursive functions, worrying about overly long

Re: [PHP-DEV] RC3

2004-06-01 Thread Sterling Hughes
Wolfgang Drews wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Hi Andi, This is indeed very strange. I made some fixes to the memory manager a few days ago. Have you tried a version since then? before writing to this list, i've download the latest CVS-Snap

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] libxml - Move Callback Reg to Request Init

2004-05-30 Thread Sterling Hughes
Rob Richards wrote: From: Andi Gutmans zend_is_executing() might work, but that is only if this method can only be called during script execution (which I'm not sure of). I'm also not sure if this is reset to 0 at the end of each request but that should be easy to fix. Yup, this method should

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] fix pcre global variable abuse

2004-04-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
i'm pretty sure it does, it has a compiled regex cache that uses it, i think. -sterling On Apr 23, 2004, at 7:11 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 10:05 AM 4/23/2004 -0400, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: On April 23, 2004 10:01 am, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think changing back to malloc/free on RSHUTDOWN is a

Re: [PHP-DEV] xmlSetGenericErrorFunc Abuse

2004-04-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 22, 2004, at 5:09 AM, Rob Richards wrote: From: Sterling Hughes Err, read back in the message. Specifically about should reset the generic error handler. If it doesn't reset it, that's a separate issue. It has *nothing* todo with the mysql issue (which was symbol conflicts due to two

Re: [PHP-DEV] xmlSetGenericErrorFunc Abuse

2004-04-21 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 21, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Paul Querna wrote: The libxml2 Extension in PHP5 uses xmlSetGenericErrorFunc(NULL, php_libxml_error_handler); This globally(inside the process) sets the libxml2 error hander to PHP's own function. Why is this bad? It clobbers the processing done by anything else

Re: [PHP-DEV] xmlSetGenericErrorFunc Abuse

2004-04-21 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 21, 2004, at 6:16 PM, Paul Querna wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 18:50, Sterling Hughes wrote: Its actually quite different than that problem. This is a problem for people who use threads. I am afraid that you are completely wrong. httpd -V: Server version: Apache/2.1.0-dev Server built

RE: [PHP-DEV] Interface inheritance

2004-04-19 Thread Sterling Hughes
I agree. Interfaces are useless if you can't guarantee that a class actually implements them. Violating an interface is violating a contract and it should be an compile error - indeed, when coding I mostly rely on not properly implementing interfaces to be a compile error. -Sterling

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] ifsetor operator

2004-04-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
How about, if (isset($b)) { $a = $b; } else { $a = 10; } Or is that a bit too revolutionary? :) The problems with these operators is that the logic you want here is rarely simple, and when you need to refactor, you need to change your construct back to if{}else{} often introducing bugs. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors

2004-04-14 Thread Sterling Hughes
The way to avoid exceptions in ctors is using empty exceptions and issuing E_WARNINGs or E_ERRORs from every method when the instance wansn't initialized already. If you think twise this is worse and also comes along with a speed penalty from the additional checks. Anyway if you don't want to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors

2004-04-14 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 14, 2004, at 10:36 PM, Thies C.Arntzen wrote: Am 14.04.2004 um 21:53 schrieb Marcus Boerger: Personally I'd much prefer a way of returning a value from a constructor, i.e. to be able to 'return null;' or a similar language construct so I could do 'if ($db = new SQLiteDatabase)' It would

Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors

2004-04-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 12, 2004, at 3:45 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 12:41 PM 4/12/2004 +0200, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, John Coggeshall wrote: As a matter of consistency, I would like to suggest that for those extensions which have a OO/procedural syntax that the non-fatal errors generated

Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors

2004-04-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 12, 2004, at 8:50 AM, George Schlossnagle wrote: On Apr 12, 2004, at 11:42 AM, Sterling Hughes wrote: I like OO (*), and I think warnings (non-fatal errors) as exceptions are a stupid idea. Does that count? ;-) Exceptions in languages like Java are used explicitly to catch fatal errors

Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors

2004-04-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
John has gone ahead and committed a perfect example of where exceptions just mess things up. In the tidy extension if you try and set an unknown configuration option it throws an exception. This is not by any stretch of the imagination an unrecoverable error, but rather a simple failure.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Exceptions and Errors

2004-04-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Apr 12, 2004, at 11:35 AM, George Schlossnagle wrote: On Apr 12, 2004, at 2:14 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: John has gone ahead and committed a perfect example of where exceptions just mess things up. In the tidy extension if you try and set an unknown configuration option it throws

Re: [PHP-DEV] Segfault in HEAD

2004-03-31 Thread Sterling Hughes
php5 shouldn't crash _at all_ within an infinite loop because we aren't in one big execution loop. -sterling On Mar 30, 2004, at 11:27 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Antony Dovgal wrote: Hi all! This small script: ? class test { var $a = false; var $x = false;

Re: [PHP-DEV] Studlycaps and MySQLi

2004-03-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
i'm with georg. then again, i never quite agreed with all your base is belonging to studlycaps, its a nice guideline for future code, but i don't see the the necessity of breaking old stuff, even if it hasn't been released yet, its been in the tree for well over a year. -sterling On Mar 23,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Studlycaps and MySQLi

2004-03-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mar 23, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Chris Shiflett wrote: --- Georg Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, your book isn't ready yet. Is this really the criteria being used to support a lack of consistency? This sort of thing (inconsistency) is one reason why PHP is frequently attacked and

[PHP-DEV] SimpleXML brokenness

2004-03-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
ps issue there are no other basic issues. They are all bug fixes. Ok, if you are sure of that fine. But lets doublecheck with the authors of the main new components (sqlite, mysqli, simplexml) first and make sure they are all in sync. For example, Derek Ford's simplexml-related message to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Studlycaps and MySQLi

2004-03-23 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mar 23, 2004, at 1:17 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 11:12 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, Sterling Hughes wrote: On Mar 23, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Chris Shiflett wrote: --- Georg Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, your book isn't ready yet. Is this really the criteria being used to support a lack

Re: [PHP-DEV] curl-multi-info-read not functioning

2004-03-17 Thread Sterling Hughes
curl_multi_info_read() is currently not working. I am planning on getting it working before php5, andi allowing (*), although I don't have any specific timeframe. You can use $still_running returned from curl_multi_exec (or perform, i can't remember what i called the php version) to spawn new

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML Casting to String

2004-02-29 Thread Sterling Hughes
with functions like utf8_encode() not properly getting the contents of the XML string - but I haven't looked into it too much - I'll try and get some hacking done on the cruise. -Sterling Andi At 17:58 27/02/2004 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: BP_VAR_R just tells the engine not to through

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML Casting to String

2004-02-29 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Feb 29, 2004, at 12:31 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 12:20 29/02/2004 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: On Feb 29, 2004, at 12:03 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think there isn't a problem with echo as it will call the string handler. However, in other cases it might be problematic. Maybe a solution

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML Casting to String

2004-02-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
BP_VAR_R just tells the engine not to through a warning when the property doesn't exist. The problem is that we need to handle cases like: $doc = simplexml_load_string('rootname attr=foobar/name'); echo $doc-name[attr]; echo $doc-name; Both would be covered by BP_VAR_R AFAIR. What if the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_operators.c

2004-02-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
George Schlossnagle wrote: On Feb 22, 2004, at 5:15 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's generating an idivl, which gives you an exception if the (signed) result is too large (a.k.a. integer overflow). Did you notice your compiler warning this

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_operators.c

2004-02-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
At 00:23 23/02/2004 +0100, Edin Kadribasic wrote: On Sunday, Feb 22, 2004, at 23:57 Europe/Copenhagen, Andi Gutmans wrote: Can someone check this on a non-intel CPU with a 32bit int? gcc 3.3 produces the same warning (this decimal constant is unsigned only in ISO C90) on PowerPC G4. The

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_default_classes.c zend_default_classes.h zend_execute.h zend_execute_API.c

2004-02-13 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Feb 13, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote: Andi's point, I believe, is that otherwise we'll need to add a finally keyword to make sure some random extension doesn't throw some random undocumented exception that you could miss. And I agree with him. It just seems to make

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [ZEND-ENGINE-CVS] cvs: ZendEngine2 / zend_default_classes.c zend_default_classes.h zend_execute.h zend_execute_API.c

2004-02-13 Thread Sterling Hughes
The reasoning is that it allows users to do a catch-all (which otherwise we'd add to the language syntax). It also adds cleanliness to the Exception hierarchy and allows PHP code to interact with PHP code which isn't written by the developer knowing that there's a common interface (such

Re: [PHP-DEV] RC1

2004-02-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hey, (a) Failure return value of FETCH_RESOURCE and the default return value - should we change it to be FALSE? Today it's NULL, which is inconsistent with most of the functions in PHP which return FALSE on failure. The downside is that changing it may break scripts that check the

Re: [PHP-DEV] RC1

2004-02-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-devm=107367078904900w=2 The main problem with a too early beta/rc release is we (well you ;) ) have to be sure that the ZE2 apis works the way it should. And not only from the php side. For the good all php extensions that are not bundled with the php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Warnings in include files suddenly treated as fatal

2004-01-30 Thread Sterling Hughes
+ zend_file_handle file_handle; + zend_bool can_open = zend_stream_open(inc_filename-value.str.val, file_handle TSRMLS_CC); + zend_file_handle_dtor(file_handle); + wouldn't a stat be

Re: [PHP-DEV] dollars and sense.

2004-01-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
Andrei Zmievski wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Christian Schneider wrote: Why do you say this? I prefer foo $bar blah. Because it's faster. Ok, that's interesting but irrelevant for most of my code. Readability is a higher priority in most cases. Thanks for pointing this out, If you

Re: [PHP-DEV] __toString() with strval() and settype()

2004-01-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote: Anyone else care to chime in here? If we're really moving to RC1, I So to summarize that'd be echo, print, (string), strval() and settype() using __toString(), right? Sounds +1 to me. settype() is a tricky one - i think it should fail for objects, as it

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML: Moving Forward

2004-01-15 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hello Adam, Thanks for moving backward. Since iterating is now worthless i am all for removing it completley. I mean it isn't even in the spirit of the extension. I will sleep over this tonight and probably remove the work of another full week too. Just because it is too complex and doesn't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Leak Script

2004-01-14 Thread Sterling Hughes
InstanceContainer(); ? As you can predict, __destruct() won't be called. Shouldn't objects be unmercifully cleaned up before we rely on the memory manager to burn the leftovers? -Sterling Andi At 06:42 PM 1/13/2004 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: Hey, The attached script gives 10 leaks when PHP5

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML: Moving Forward

2004-01-13 Thread Sterling Hughes
From: Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg 1) SimpleXML creates PHP data structures from XML documents. It only handles XML elements, attributes, and text nodes. The syntax for accessing the text node children of an element is akin to object properties ($foo-bar); the syntax of accessing

[PHP-DEV] fix for bug #26696

2004-01-13 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hey, I've attached a fix for an engine level crash in switch() when it is used with string offsets. This eliminates a double-free and valgrind reports that no new leaks have been introduced. -Sterling Index: zend_execute.c === RCS

Re: [PHP-DEV] fix for bug #26696

2004-01-13 Thread Sterling Hughes
Are you sure this is OK? It seems strange that string offsets don't need any unlocking. It might mean we have a problem someplace else and that you're fixing the cause and not the source of the problem (although I haven't had time to dig deep). In general, consider the following code: $a

Re: [PHP-DEV] fix for bug #26696

2004-01-13 Thread Sterling Hughes
Ok, attached is a diff that properly fixes the problem. -Sterling At 04:06 PM 1/13/2004 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: Are you sure this is OK? It seems strange that string offsets don't need any unlocking. It might mean we have a problem someplace else and that you're fixing the cause

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
The idea of simplexml is to return the nodes of *that particular node*, not all of the subsequent nodes, therefore (as mentioned before), the current behaviour is correct. The current behaviour of to_xml_string() is however, wrong. It should return the xml content from the current node as adam

Re: [PHP-DEV] How to add new functions to SimpleXML extention

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
Funny, i writing a response to adam's message while this got to the mailing list. Take a look at my response to adam, as it covers this patch as well. -Sterling Hi! I'm just playing with simplexml and wonder if two new functions of the simplexml_element object would be usefull: getName()

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
Much of the current code in SimpleXML is due to immaturities in either Zend or the LibXML interface at the time I was writing SimpleXML. I wanted to have cool things to show at conferences, plus other people wanted to see what was possible with simplexml, so features started to creep in.

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
In theory, I like the idea of a unified set of XML helper extensions, but DOM's so big and ugly that I don't know if it plays well with others in the sandbox. We are not consistent! Not in any way. DOM uses studlyCaps and SimpleXML uses underscores for its method names. Speaking of

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
My thoughts on this are as follows, some are directly related to the topic, some are related to simplexml's original design and current functionality. SimpleXML was originally designed to provide a direct mapping between a XML document and a data structure, through access to the

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
At 04:33 PM 1/12/2004 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: In theory, I like the idea of a unified set of XML helper extensions, but DOM's so big and ugly that I don't know if it plays well with others in the sandbox. We are not consistent! Not in any way. DOM uses studlyCaps and SimpleXML

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
Well, this can be added with userspace handlers as I mentioned to Marcus. The real trick to XML manipulation is Xpath, not adding a bunch of broken methods. If people want to do that, they can load a simplexml object into DOM, and use the two together. ;) XPath cant be the answer to

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
At 05:13 PM 1/12/2004 -0500, Sterling Hughes wrote: I actually think it's nice and easy to have some of SimpleXML's methods. Maybe there is some redundancy and it might be an OK idea to make sure we got them right, but I definitely think we should keep them. Sure, but you're not an XML

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Jan 12, 2004, at 5:35 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: Well, this can be added with userspace handlers as I mentioned to Marcus. The real trick to XML manipulation is Xpath, not adding a bunch of broken methods. If people want to do that, they can load a simplexml object into DOM

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
Sure. But I use php_error(E_WARNING) not exceptions. We can certainly discuss how it is and isn't pure OO, and what that means. OO people are still arguing that... In fact I read a paper on OO the other day that said instantiable class should have no external methods (which is bollocks).

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Sterling Hughes wrote: What's the ultimate goal for simpleXML? I have been hesitant from ever touching this extension as what I thought it was intended to do, seems simplistic to where it acutally (is going/went?). Correct me if I'm wrong, but when it started I

Re: [PHP-DEV] SimpleXML and Default Cast To String

2004-01-12 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Sterling Hughes wrote: Its XML's SQL/regular expressions, draw what analogies to string processing that you will, but I don't see: $results = simplexml_query($element, '/child::node()'); foreach ($results as $result) { echo $result; } Signifigantly

Re: [PHP-DEV] internal API documentation

2004-01-09 Thread Sterling Hughes
George Schlossnagle's upcoming book (Advanced PHP), will have 3 chapters entirely devoted to PHP Internals and the Zend API; I highly recommend it. -Sterling -Original Message- From: david [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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