Re: [IRCA] TA yet again in Victoria 30 November

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Of course, this was the evening I was out, but the SDR labored away 
in my absence, to yield, not just 864, but amazingly, 25kw from Egypt 
on 1503 as well.


1503 Egypt, N. Sinai 0128UT Koranic recitation, weak but 
recognizable, and even more recognizable by being parallel to 864, 
which wasn't that strong either at the time, but strong enough.



best wishes,

Nick


At 02:25 2018-11-30, Volodya S wrote:

And again at 02:24, and yes, it's Egypt, // to webstream at:
http://www.ertu.org/quran/QuranKareem.html

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:12 AM Volodya S  wrote:

> 01:12.  Just home, and note Arabic chanting (?Qu'aran recitation) on 864
> at fair level.  Presumably Egypt...73,  Walt
>
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Brandon Jordan]

Mark. Download the Jaguar Lite Full Package here: 
http://jaguars.kapsi.fi/jaguarlite/download/

This is V4 and has the full manual.

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Mark Pettifor  wrote:
> 
> I've downloaded Jaguar Lite, v3.100 Mar 16 2018 build, and there is no PDF in 
> the install folder. There is some documentation on the Jaguar Lite website, 
> to help you get started, but nothing comprehensive.
> 
> Are you talking about the Full version?
> 
> I tried getting that from the main Jaguar site, and when I tried to run it, 
> it said it was too old of a version, and to download a newer one.
> 
> Is there some other site I should be downloading from?
> 
> These are the sites I've been to:
> 
> Jaguar Lite: https://jaguar-lite.blogspot.com/
> 
> Jaguar: http://mazzic.net/jaguar.htm
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 2018-11-29 8:27 pm, Brandon Jordan wrote:
>> The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
>> must be alot of changes lately.
>> Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
>> archive,
>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>>> Mark -
>>> It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of the
>>> native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.
>>> Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
>>> function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
>>> icon at the bottom of the screen.
>>> Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
>>> doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is considered
>>> to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection of
>>> the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
>>> with the bath water.
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
>>> m...@spacetubes.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
>>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
>>> I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
>>> is no documentation on how to use it?
>>> Mark Pettifor
>>> Goshen, IN
>>> --
>> Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
>> Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
>> http://www.swldx.us
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Re: [IRCA] ho hum, TAs again

[Volodya S]

Same here,Colin. The star of the evening. 73, Walt

On Thursday, November 29, 2018, R. Colin Newell 
wrote:

> 0240 - good signal on 864 with Arabic chanting - at this moment, best
> signal on the band.
>
> Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -
>
> > On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
> >
> > so far.a touch of the buzz on 1575, a touch of talk on 1386 (both
> around 2323UT)  and the occasional weak Koranic injunctions on 864 up to
> 0006UT.  Quite a few carriers.  Sun is only setting now, 0020UT (or would
> be if it wasn't for the usual west coast gray concealing it).
> >
> > I too will be out this evening, so it should be a snorter
> >
> > best wishes,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > om
> >
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Sylvain Naud]

If I may, yes, Brandon was referring at the Pro (Full) version.

Sylvain



Le 2018-11-29 à 21:59, Mark Pettifor a écrit :
I've downloaded Jaguar Lite, v3.100 Mar 16 2018 build, and there is 
no PDF in the install folder. There is some documentation on the 
Jaguar Lite website, to help you get started, but nothing comprehensive.


Are you talking about the Full version?

I tried getting that from the main Jaguar site, and when I tried to 
run it, it said it was too old of a version, and to download a newer 
one.


Is there some other site I should be downloading from?

These are the sites I've been to:

Jaguar Lite: https://jaguar-lite.blogspot.com/

Jaguar: http://mazzic.net/jaguar.htm

Best regards,

Mark

On 2018-11-29 8:27 pm, Brandon Jordan wrote:
The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the 
screen. There

must be alot of changes lately.

Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the 
install

archive,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:


Mark -


It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing 
of the

native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.

Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa 
Jaguar

icon at the bottom of the screen.


Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many 
years. I
doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is 
considered
to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a 
rejection of
the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was 
thrown out

with the bath water.



Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark 
Pettifor <

m...@spacetubes.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
is no documentation on how to use it?

Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

--

Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
http://www.swldx.us

Icom IC-7200, IC-7300, Perseus, WinRadio G33DDC, G313e, RFSpace NetSDR,
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Sylvain Naud]

I just tried to remember how I managed to contact them and I think I 
went by the Jaguar Lite website http://jaguar-lite.blogspot.com/ and 
there is this email address at the top of the "Help" page 
jaguar4pers...@gmail.com. They ask 50 Euros for the Pro version which 
also include email support from an experimented user to help you in 
getting started. And if you're a little more geek in SDR, you can take 
part of the "development team" This is where you can test versions and 
bring your own suggestion to the developer. Thanks to Ilpo's 
receptiveness, the software is constantly evolving.


BTW, one of the reason I could "afford" getting in Jaguar Pro is that 
last year, I had to be confined at home for a three months period after 
a minor foot surgery. So I had aal the time to learn some of 
that thing. And I am still learning.


Sylvain


Le 2018-11-29 à 21:22, Volodya S a écrit :

So how does one get the full Jaguar package?   By invitation only?  I seem
to recall getting such in the early days, but was too overwhelmed with all
of the other products to seriously jump into it, then.   Now that I have
tonnes of SDR files, a simpler program to scan them would be most helpful!
  73,...Walt

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:35 AM Chuck Hutton  wrote:


That is good news and I'll have to check it out.

I wish it was easier to acquire the full package.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Brandon Jordan <
swl.tn@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:27 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
must be alot of changes lately.

Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
archive,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:


Mark -


It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of

the

native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.

Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
icon at the bottom of the screen.


Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is

considered

to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection

of

the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
with the bath water.



Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
m...@spacetubes.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
is no documentation on how to use it?

Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

--

Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
http://www.swldx.us

Icom IC-7200, IC-7300, Perseus, WinRadio G33DDC, G313e, RFSpace NetSDR,
SDR-IQ, Elad FDM-S2, SDRplay RSP2pro
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Mark Pettifor]

I've downloaded Jaguar Lite, v3.100 Mar 16 2018 build, and there is no 
PDF in the install folder. There is some documentation on the Jaguar 
Lite website, to help you get started, but nothing comprehensive.


Are you talking about the Full version?

I tried getting that from the main Jaguar site, and when I tried to run 
it, it said it was too old of a version, and to download a newer one.


Is there some other site I should be downloading from?

These are the sites I've been to:

Jaguar Lite: https://jaguar-lite.blogspot.com/

Jaguar: http://mazzic.net/jaguar.htm

Best regards,

Mark

On 2018-11-29 8:27 pm, Brandon Jordan wrote:
The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. 
There

must be alot of changes lately.

Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the 
install

archive,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:


Mark -


It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of 
the

native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.

Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa 
Jaguar

icon at the bottom of the screen.


Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. 
I
doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is 
considered
to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a 
rejection of
the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown 
out

with the bath water.



Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor 
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m...@spacetubes.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
is no documentation on how to use it?

Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

--

Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
http://www.swldx.us

Icom IC-7200, IC-7300, Perseus, WinRadio G33DDC, G313e, RFSpace NetSDR,
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Re: [IRCA] ho hum, TAs again

[R. Colin Newell]

0240 - good signal on 864 with Arabic chanting - at this moment, best signal on 
the band. 

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
> 
> so far.a touch of the buzz on 1575, a touch of talk on 1386 (both around 
> 2323UT)  and the occasional weak Koranic injunctions on 864 up to 0006UT.  
> Quite a few carriers.  Sun is only setting now, 0020UT (or would be if it 
> wasn't for the usual west coast gray concealing it).
> 
> I too will be out this evening, so it should be a snorter
> 
> best wishes,
> 
> Nick
> 
> om
> 
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Chuck Hutton]

It's not available to the public. Either Ilpo (the developer) asks you or you 
ask Ilpo for the package.

Chuck

From: IRCA  on behalf of Volodya S 

Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

So how does one get the full Jaguar package?   By invitation only?  I seem
to recall getting such in the early days, but was too overwhelmed with all
of the other products to seriously jump into it, then.   Now that I have
tonnes of SDR files, a simpler program to scan them would be most helpful!
 73,...Walt

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:35 AM Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> That is good news and I'll have to check it out.
>
> I wish it was easier to acquire the full package.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Brandon Jordan <
> swl.tn@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:27 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
>
> The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
> must be alot of changes lately.
>
> Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
> archive,
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>
> > Mark -
> >
> >
> > It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of
> the
> > native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.
> >
> > Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
> > function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
> > icon at the bottom of the screen.
> >
> >
> > Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
> > doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is
> considered
> > to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection
> of
> > the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
> > with the bath water.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
> > m...@spacetubes.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
> >
> > I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
> > is no documentation on how to use it?
> >
> > Mark Pettifor
> > Goshen, IN
> >
> > --
> Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
> Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
> http://www.swldx.us
>
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[IRCA] TA’s TA’s TA’s - WCNA

[R. Colin Newell]

1575 Iran jammer at fair levels and Russian mumbles on 1386. 

Lots o’ carriers. 

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Re: [IRCA] TA yet again in Victoria

[Volodya S]

And again at 02:24, and yes, it's Egypt, // to webstream at:
http://www.ertu.org/quran/QuranKareem.html

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:12 AM Volodya S  wrote:

> 01:12.  Just home, and note Arabic chanting (?Qu'aran recitation) on 864
> at fair level.  Presumably Egypt...73,  Walt
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Volodya S]

So how does one get the full Jaguar package?   By invitation only?  I seem
to recall getting such in the early days, but was too overwhelmed with all
of the other products to seriously jump into it, then.   Now that I have
tonnes of SDR files, a simpler program to scan them would be most helpful!
 73,...Walt

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:35 AM Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> That is good news and I'll have to check it out.
>
> I wish it was easier to acquire the full package.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Brandon Jordan <
> swl.tn@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:27 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
>
> The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
> must be alot of changes lately.
>
> Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
> archive,
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>
> > Mark -
> >
> >
> > It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of
> the
> > native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.
> >
> > Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
> > function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
> > icon at the bottom of the screen.
> >
> >
> > Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
> > doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is
> considered
> > to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection
> of
> > the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
> > with the bath water.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
> > m...@spacetubes.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
> >
> > I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
> > is no documentation on how to use it?
> >
> > Mark Pettifor
> > Goshen, IN
> >
> > --
> Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
> Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
> http://www.swldx.us
>
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Russ Edmunds]

Interesting, Barry - I'm in a reverse situation -- I have too much
electrical noise and local RF noise to use an outdoor antenna and so I can
only DX TA's on DXpeditions, which we do once a year currently - it isn't
cold and it's less than 2 hours but now that I'm retired I have the time to
spend with the SDR recordings over the following months.

I'll pass on the Jaguar/Perseus discussion as I've used neither.

Russ Edmunds






On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:25 PM Barry Davies via IRCA 
wrote:

>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Barry Davies 
> To: Mailing List for the International Radio Club of America <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 01:25:33 + (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
>
>
> Hello Rocco
> I did 15 years+  travelling over 300 mile to the DX shack in the far North
> of Scotland. We put up 1200 foot Beverages. Switched on our cassette tape
> recorder and happily tuned thorough the night and got some great catches. I
> always returned home wondering what I had missed I am now 70 years old and
> could not take the strain anymore. Perseus+Jaguar means I can Dx at
> reasonable times after a good nights sleep and knowing I probably didn't
> miss anything. The new breed of communication means I yune in to WCNA
> without the long haul North.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Barry
>
> Carlisle UK.  Lat. 55.0119N   Lon. -2.9668W.
>
> On Thursday, 29 November 2018, 21:04:44 GMT, Gary DeBock <
> d1028g...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  <<< If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
> hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
> Rocco >>>
>
> Rocco, you have just analyzed and determined the primary factor behind the
> worldwide boom in Ultralight radio popularity, especially the concept of
> deploying to isolated ocean beaches with nothing but basic equipment and
> your own DXing skill. Congratulations on your insight!
>
> Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
>
> > On November 29, 2018 at 5:26 AM Rocco Cotroneo  mailto:rocco.cotro...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> >Jaguar is hyper assisted DXing. It's like fishing in open ocean
> >with a huge net which is also selecting your preys. Its easiness for
> >recognising offsets and the huge database embedded means he knows
> >before you what's on the dial and tells you where to go and catch it..
> >It's only patience and luck (for the id, eventually), no intuition and
> >very little experience needed. The main expertise you need is to grasp
> >all the software tools for maximum efficiency. It has been invented in
> >Scandinavia, where conditions are such that almost every night you can
> >fill some Terabytes, and you would need to live 1000 years to review
> >all of it. If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
> >hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
> >Rocco
> >
> >
> >
> >Il giorno gio 29 nov 2018 alle ore 01:28 Sylvain Naud
> >mailto:sylvainnau...@gmail.com > ha scritto:
> >>
> >
> >> > I have been using Jaguar on a regular basis for one + year
> and I would
> > >say that for deep MW file analysis, Jaguar is the best tool. I
> > >particularly like the Extended Scan feature where one can
> perform from
> > >wav files, an high resolution deep bandscan of split carriers
> over a
> > >certain period of time (witch can mean hours of files). And
> with gaining
> > >experience, it become easier to spot on a carrier where audio
> can be
> > >find, this especially under the lowest QRM. This process saves
> me quite
> > >some time when reviewing (juicy) files.
> > >
> > >As for live listening, I still prefer the ease of the
> Perseus.exe GUI
> > >for the reasons Chuck just gave.
> > >
> > >Sylvain
> > >
> > >Le 2018-11-27 à 23:41, Chuck Hutton a écrit :
> > >
> > >> > > I think the overall consensus is that Jaguar audio is
> a bit better than Perseus. Much like the old SDR-IQ had a slight advantage..
> > > >
> > > >But I chose not to use Jaguar as I find the
> one-screen-does-all approach of the Perseus makes filter adjustment, volume
> adjustment, frequency changes, fine tunig to get an off frequency signal
> centered etc easy.
> > > >
> > > >But I am still tempted to play with Jaguar every now and
> then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Chuck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >From: IRCA  irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com > on behalf of Neil Kazaross <
> neilka...@gmail.com mailto:neilka...@gmail.com >
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:31 PM
> > > >Cc: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com ;
> nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
> > > >
> > > >For me the real question is how is audio recovery with
> Jaguar 

Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Sylvain Naud]

Agreed. Even though most of keyboard shortcuts are still active, 
nowadays there are many clickable / "hoverable" mouse functions 
throughout the software. As for the extensive documentation, the 
developer is doing his best to keep it updated with the new version(s). 
There is also much more now than the Jaguar icon that can be shown on 
the screen as one can customize its layout by adding a Filter or an 
Equalizer applet for instance, and both fully mouse controllable.


Sylvain

Le 2018-11-29 à 20:27, Brandon Jordan a écrit :

The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
must be alot of changes lately.

Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
archive,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:


Mark -


It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of the
native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.

Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
icon at the bottom of the screen.


Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is considered
to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection of
the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
with the bath water.



Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
m...@spacetubes.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
is no documentation on how to use it?

Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

--

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[IRCA] Domestic MWDX to Enid OK, November 12-29, 2018

[Glenn Hauser via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
All times and dates strictly UT [5 hours ahead of `ELT` during EST; when 
changing times one must also change the dates for events in the 00-05 UT period 
to the previous date by ELT].

Rx: mostly DX-398 with internal antenna only or PL-880; NRD-545 with ALA-330S 
inside E-W or inside randomwire N-S; Nissan stock caradio as specified; IC-R75 
with E-W longwire.

These logs are excerpts from my daily all-band reports, mainly SWBC, also 
VHF/UHF, sometimes, utility, ham, which may be found in several archives 
without much delay, such as 
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/index.php?topic=Hauser

And compiled weekly along with extensive news from many other individuals and 
publications in DX LISTENING DIGEST: 
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxldmid.html
 
All my MW DX reports starting August 2011 are archived in this forum with open 
access:  
http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?6543-MW-DX-from-Enid-OK-by-Glenn-Hauser/page72
[over 321,000 views! as of November 30, 2018]
   
These logs are [potentially] in four sections, Canada [if any], Oklahoma [if 
any], rest of USA [if any], unidentified [if any], separated by === Within 
each, they are in frequency order

** OKLAHOMA. 640, Sunday Nov 25 at 1332 UT, dead air from KWPN Moore 
instead of silly sportstalk, but reducing CCI to KFI. Probably ran 
non-sports weekly pubaffs show at 1300 UT, and failed to resume when 
it finished; also plays out on sibling station 930 WKY in English 
instead of Spanish (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)



** U S A. 640, Nov 27 at 2132 UT I am bandscanning on caradio at a 
quiet parking lot in western Enid, finding dead air again from KWPN, 
but turning up the volume, somestation is audible under --- it must be 
WOI, public radio in Ames IA. I hasten to A/B with 91.7 KOSU to make 
it // during NPR ATC, but ``ESPN 1390`` blasts back on in less than a 
minute. Anyhow it would not be in // as WOI is amid BBC Newshour, no 
ATC there until 2200. TROTS: if OU had not stupidly sold off its 
legacy AM station, WNAD 640, today Oklahoma would have public radio on 
AM (and a lot better reception in the hinterlands than its low-power 
FM successor KGOU and satellites can muster) (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX 
LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 710, Nov 28 a 2038 UT, counting the SAH fades between KGNC 
Amarillo and KCMO Kansas City both on groundwave: 156/minute = 2.6 Hz. 
Again on caradio at a parking lot in western Enid.

1090, Nov 28 at 2040 UT, SAH here of 5 Hz, talk station vs music 
station. One is certainly KEXS Excelsior Springs MO, 10 kW, which 
barely makes it here by groundwave; the other could be KAAY Little 
Rock, starting skywave as it`s really too far for groundwave. No other 
1090s likely (a couple in further reaches of TX). (Glenn Hauser, Enid 
OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 1130, Nov 28 at 2101 UT, `The Tiger` ID after weak 
sportstalk, which I knew had to be KWKH Shreveport, as nearer KLEY 
Wellington KS is off the air again --- better than pulsing and 
breaking up as it did earlier this year, but seemed to have recovered 
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 1250, Nov 20 at 1348 UT, nulling KYYS, Spanish from Kansas 
City, I have a sports station in English, itself roughly N/S, talking 
about ``The Blitz``, which I assume is some local team, then 
commercial for Augie`s Barbecue, on Broadway. It seems there is no 
current Blitz team altho there used to be one in Chicago. Blitz may 
now be some sports-oriented promotional entity or non-turf game. 

Search on the BBQ however leads right to San Antonio TX, and I also 
heard ``1604`` mentioned, which is the outer loop around SA beyond I-
410. So this is KZDC, 25000/920 watts U4, major daylobe to NW. With 
ESPN. Fits since 1200 WOAI is also still in. Don`t recall hearing KZDC 
before, maybe a previous call? But it`s been KZDC since 1995! And I 
did last log it in March, 2015. Well legal now, post-sunrise at 1300 
UT in Nov (1315 UT in Dec) (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 1270, Nov 27 at 2138 UT, Spanish game report involving a 
pelota and a dominicano, so béisbol. Groundwave would render KRXO 
Claremore OK sports in English, so skywave from The Metroplex is 
already propagating 50 kW KFLC Benbrook TX atop any KRXO (Glenn 
Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Chuck Hutton]

That is good news and I'll have to check it out.

I wish it was easier to acquire the full package.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Brandon Jordan 

Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:27 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
must be alot of changes lately.

Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
archive,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Mark -
>
>
> It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of the
> native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.
>
> Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
> function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
> icon at the bottom of the screen.
>
>
> Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
> doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is considered
> to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection of
> the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
> with the bath water.
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
> m...@spacetubes.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
>
> I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
> is no documentation on how to use it?
>
> Mark Pettifor
> Goshen, IN
>
> --
Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
http://www.swldx.us

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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Brandon Jordan]

Oops, latest version is 4.0. Just out recently.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:27 PM Brandon Jordan  wrote:

> The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen.
> There must be alot of changes lately.
>
> Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
> archive,
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>
>> Mark -
>>
>>
>> It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of
>> the native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.
>>
>> Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
>> function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
>> icon at the bottom of the screen.
>>
>>
>> Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
>> doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is considered
>> to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection of
>> the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
>> with the bath water.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
>> m...@spacetubes.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
>>
>> I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
>> is no documentation on how to use it?
>>
>> Mark Pettifor
>> Goshen, IN
>>
>> --
> Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
> Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
> http://www.swldx.us
>
> Icom IC-7200, IC-7300, Perseus, WinRadio G33DDC, G313e, RFSpace NetSDR,
> SDR-IQ, Elad FDM-S2, SDRplay RSP2pro
> Array Solutions SAL-20 Shared Apex Loop, DX Engineering ARAV3 Active
> Vertical
>


-- 
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Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
http://www.swldx.us

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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Brandon Jordan]

The latest version is 5.0, and there is a lot of stuff on the screen. There
must be alot of changes lately.

Mark-- It has very extensive documentation, there is a PDF in the install
archive,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Mark -
>
>
> It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of the
> native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.
>
> Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the
> function you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar
> icon at the bottom of the screen.
>
>
> Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I
> doubt it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is considered
> to be a philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection of
> the old fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out
> with the bath water.
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor <
> m...@spacetubes.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?
>
> I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
> is no documentation on how to use it?
>
> Mark Pettifor
> Goshen, IN
>
> --
Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
Fayette County, Tennessee, USA
http://www.swldx.us

Icom IC-7200, IC-7300, Perseus, WinRadio G33DDC, G313e, RFSpace NetSDR,
SDR-IQ, Elad FDM-S2, SDRplay RSP2pro
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Barry Davies via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---


Hello Rocco
I did 15 years+  travelling over 300 mile to the DX shack in the far North of 
Scotland. We put up 1200 foot Beverages. Switched on our cassette tape recorder 
and happily tuned thorough the night and got some great catches. I always 
returned home wondering what I had missed I am now 70 years old and could not 
take the strain anymore. Perseus+Jaguar means I can Dx at reasonable times 
after a good nights sleep and knowing I probably didn't miss anything. The new 
breed of communication means I yune in to WCNA without the long haul North.

Best wishes
 
Barry 

Carlisle UK.  Lat. 55.0119N   Lon. -2.9668W. 

On Thursday, 29 November 2018, 21:04:44 GMT, Gary DeBock 
 wrote:  
 
 <<< If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
Rocco >>>

Rocco, you have just analyzed and determined the primary factor behind the 
worldwide boom in Ultralight radio popularity, especially the concept of 
deploying to isolated ocean beaches with nothing but basic equipment and your 
own DXing skill. Congratulations on your insight!

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

> On November 29, 2018 at 5:26 AM Rocco Cotroneo  mailto:rocco.cotro...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> 
>    Jaguar is hyper assisted DXing. It's like fishing in open ocean
>    with a huge net which is also selecting your preys. Its easiness for
>    recognising offsets and the huge database embedded means he knows
>    before you what's on the dial and tells you where to go and catch it.
>    It's only patience and luck (for the id, eventually), no intuition and
>    very little experience needed. The main expertise you need is to grasp
>    all the software tools for maximum efficiency. It has been invented in
>    Scandinavia, where conditions are such that almost every night you can
>    fill some Terabytes, and you would need to live 1000 years to review
>    all of it. If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
>    hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
>    Rocco
> 
> 
> 
>    Il giorno gio 29 nov 2018 alle ore 01:28 Sylvain Naud
>    mailto:sylvainnau...@gmail.com > ha scritto:
>    >
> 
>        > > I have been using Jaguar on a regular basis for one + year and I 
>would
> >        say that for deep MW file analysis, Jaguar is the best tool. I
> >        particularly like the Extended Scan feature where one can perform 
> >from
> >        wav files, an high resolution deep bandscan of split carriers over a
> >        certain period of time (witch can mean hours of files). And with 
> >gaining
> >        experience, it become easier to spot on a carrier where audio can be
> >        find, this especially under the lowest QRM. This process saves me 
> >quite
> >        some time when reviewing (juicy) files.
> > 
> >        As for live listening, I still prefer the ease of the Perseus.exe GUI
> >        for the reasons Chuck just gave.
> > 
> >        Sylvain
> > 
> >        Le 2018-11-27 à 23:41, Chuck Hutton a écrit :
> > 
> >            > > > I think the overall consensus is that Jaguar audio is a 
> >bit better than Perseus. Much like the old SDR-IQ had a slight advantage..
> > > 
> > >            But I chose not to use Jaguar as I find the 
> > >one-screen-does-all approach of the Perseus makes filter adjustment, 
> > >volume adjustment, frequency changes, fine tunig to get an off frequency 
> > >signal centered etc easy.
> > > 
> > >            But I am still tempted to play with Jaguar every now and then.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >            Chuck
> > > 
> > > 
> > >            
> > >            From: IRCA  > >mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com > on behalf of Neil Kazaross 
> > >mailto:neilka...@gmail.com >
> > >            Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:31 PM
> > >            Cc: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com ; 
> > >nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com
> > >            Subject: Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
> > > 
> > >            For me the real question is how is audio recovery with Jaguar 
> > >compared to
> > >            default, for weak splits like the TA's DU's and very rare TP's 
> > >that can
> > >            make it into our Midwest? 73 KAZ
> > > 
> > >            On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 5:36 PM James Niven 
> > >mailto:jni...@austin.rr.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > >                > > > > Hi Brandon,
> > > > 
> > > >                I have the Perseus SDR receiver and I have the Jaguar 
> > > >software, but it is
> > > >                a little bit of a learning curve.
> > > >                From what I have seen with this software so far, it is 
> > > >great for seeing
> > > >                the various carriers on each frequency, but like I 
> > > >mentioned I am still
> > > >                learning to use the software.
> > > >                Maybe others will chime in
> > > >                Thanks
> > > > 
> > > >                -Original Message-
> 

[IRCA] Mostly Mexican MW DX to Enid OK, November 12-29, 2018

[Glenn Hauser via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
These logs are excerpts from my daily all-band reports, mainly SWBC, also 
VHF/UHF, sometimes utility, ham, which may be found in several archives without 
much delay, such as 
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/index.php?topic=Hauser

And compiled weekly along with extensive news from many other individuals and 
publications in DX LISTENING DIGEST:
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxldmid.html

All my MW DX reports starting August 2011 are archived in this forum with open 
access:
http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?6543-MW-DX-from-Enid-OK-by-Glenn-Hauser/page72
[over 321,000 views! as of November 30, 2018]

All times and dates strictly UT. Rx: mostly DX-398 with internal antenna only 
or PL-880; NRD-545 with ALA-330S inside E-W or inside randomwire N-S; Nissan 
stock caradio as specified; ICR-75 with 00-foot E-W longwire.

** CUBA. 530, Nov 21 at 0259, silly ballgame in Spanish // 5025 
Rebelde, mixing with the EZL music from Enciclopedia. Two Rebeldes are 
listed, Guantánamo and Caribe, Isla Juventud, and I`ll settle for the 
closer. Also considerable het from 531: see ALGERIA (Glenn Hauser, OK, 
DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** ALGERIA. 531, Nov 21 at 0300, considerable het to Cubans on 530, as 
I am starting a TA JBA carrier bandscan [see UNIDENTIFIED], and this 
turns out to be the strongest, with some music separable from 530, as 
always presumed to be the 600 kW Jil FM [sic], youth channel at 
F`Kirina, which is near the Tunisian border, 8899 km or 5529 statute 
miles from here. Nothing much on its 600 kW // 549 however, 551 km 
closer near the Moroccan border at Sidi Hamadouche (Glenn Hauser, OK, 
DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** MEXICO. 700, Nov 29 at 1304, YL in unknown language, partly Spanish 
mentioning ``Desarrollo de Pueblos Indígenas``, which is the federal 
agency running native stations I love to hear, then definite IDs 
pronounced in Spanish, XEETCH heard twice, and La Voz de los Tres 
Rios. That`s the 5 kW daytimer in Etchojoa, Sonora. Has growing SAH of 
128/min = 2.13 Hz in plain Spanish, likely XEGD in Hidalgo del Parral, 
Chihuahua (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** MEXICO [and non]. 810, Nov 29 at 1308, looping SW, Mexican NA by 
kidchorus is playing; running late? 1310 losing to WHB and can`t make 
out an ID before ``-AM`` in Spanish. Then some Xmasmx, Greensleeves, 
1316 Merry Little Xmas in English so probably a third station. The 
only Mexfit is XERSV, Tribuna R., Ciudad Obregón, Sonora, 5 kW 
daytimer. (Tim Hall has confirmed that XESB in Chihuahua is gone.) 
(Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** MEXICO. 820, Nov 29 at 1321, canned YL ID as ``Canal Ochocientos 
Veinte, ABC Radio`` and back to romantic music, easily separable from 
WBAP at the moment, just before LSR of 1321 UT. It`s XEABCA in 
Mexicali BCN, which really gets out, and frequently non-IDs (Glenn 
Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

UNIDENTIFIED. Trans-Atlantic JBA MW carrier search, Nov 15 at 0220- 
UT: 531, 549, 576, 585, 621, 638, 684* vs WSCR IBOC, 738, 774(2), 837, 
855(2), 864, 882, 936, 1044, 1053, 1089, 1098(2), 1107, 1125, 1206(2), 
1413. *stronger; (2)=at least two carriers beating.

TA JBA MW carrier search, Nov 15 at 0642- UT: 585, 612, 621, 693(2), 
711, 729, 774(2), 837, 846, 855, 882, 909, 936, 999, 1026, 1098, 1125, 
1179, 1215, 1314 (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

UNIDENTIFIED. Trans-Atlantic JBA carrier search, Nov 21 from 0301: 531 
[see ALGERIA], 557(2), 621, 639, 693, 747, 774, 819, 837, 855, 909, 
936(2), 999, 1026(2), 1089, 1134, 1152, 1215, 1575 (Glenn Hauser, OK, 
DX LISTENING DIGEST)

UNIDENTIFIED. Trans-Atlantic JBA MW carrier search, a good time to 
check as coastal (east and west) DXers are reporting plenty, Nov 28 at 
0240-0248: 531* with bit of audio Algerien, 585, 612(2), 621, 693*, 
729, 738, 747, 774*(2), 855, 864, 882*, 909, 936, 999, 1044, 1053, 
1089(2), 1125, 1161, 1179, 1215, 1341. *=stronger ones; (2)=at least 
two carriers beating (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

UNIDENTIFIED. Trans-Pacific JBA MW carrier search, Nov 29 at 1256-
1302, all roughly NW u.o.s.: 594, 693, 747, 774, 828, 837, 882(2), 
972, 1098-W?, 1134, 1143 (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

UNIDENTIFIED. 1521, Nov 28 at 2044 UT, on my MW bandscan in western 
Enid, KOKC OKC has a JBA het upon it! Roughly 1 kHz, but I can`t tell 
exactly on caradio and whether it`s 1519 or 1521. Could the 2-megawatt 
Saudi be propagating this early? 

On NRD at home Nov 29 at 0044 UT, het is definitely from 1521. KSA 
quit running all-night and should be off by now unless that has 
changed. TA carriers are certainly in now on a quick check of 1215, 
1089, 882, 855, 774, 693.

ZNS 1540 Bahamas has also been reported spurious circa 1521 and 1559. 
Or it could yet be something else (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING 
DIGEST)
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Chuck Hutton]

Mark -


It's because Jaguar doesn't have the everything-on-one-screen thing of the 
native Perseus software nor the menu+pulldowns of SDR Console.

Rather, you have to memorize some keyboard shortcuts to call up the function 
you want. All that appears when you run the software isa Jaguar icon at the 
bottom of the screen.


Caveat: I haven't played with the full Jaguar software in many years. I doubt 
it has changed in terms of user interface as the scheme is considered to be a 
philosophical basis of the product. I think this was a rejection of the old 
fashioned way to structure a product, but the baby was thrown out with the bath 
water.



Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Mark Pettifor 

Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there
is no documentation on how to use it?

Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

On 2018-11-29 6:08 pm, hoddles...@gmail.com wrote:
> Go for it.
>
> It’s a fairly steep learning curve but I use it now virtually 100%.
>
> Paul
> Troon, Scotland
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 29 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Brandon Jordan  wrote:
>>
>> Many thanks for all the responses. My 'new' Perseus arrived and I have
>> been
>> playing with Jaguar Lite and enjoying it so far and will likely give
>> the
>> Pro version a try.
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[IRCA] TA yet again in Victoria

[Volodya S]

01:12.  Just home, and note Arabic chanting (?Qu'aran recitation) on 864 at
fair level.  Presumably Egypt...73,  Walt
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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Barry Davies via IRCA]

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Hello Mark there is a comprehensive hand book which comes with the download

Best wishes

Barry 

Carlisle UK.  Lat. 55.0119N   Lon. -2.9668W. 

On Thursday, 29 November 2018, 23:30:53 GMT, Mark Pettifor 
 wrote:  
 
 I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there 
is no documentation on how to use it?

Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

On 2018-11-29 6:08 pm, hoddles...@gmail.com wrote:
> Go for it.
> 
> It’s a fairly steep learning curve but I use it now virtually 100%.
> 
> Paul
> Troon, Scotland
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Brandon Jordan  wrote:
>> 
>> Many thanks for all the responses. My 'new' Perseus arrived and I have 
>> been
>> playing with Jaguar Lite and enjoying it so far and will likely give 
>> the
>> Pro version a try.
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Re: [IRCA] ho hum, TAs again

[Nick Hall-Patch]

so far.a touch of the buzz on 1575, a touch 
of talk on 1386 (both around 2323UT)  and the 
occasional weak Koranic injunctions on 864 up to 
0006UT.  Quite a few carriers.  Sun is only 
setting now, 0020UT (or would be if it wasn't for 
the usual west coast gray concealing it).


I too will be out this evening, so it should be a snorter

best wishes,

Nick



At 23:42 2018-11-29, Nigel Pimblett wrote:

Hope you west coasters are ready for some more 
TA action.  Nice Jil FM ID at 2340, had Romania 
on 1179 as early as 2300.     Maybe that's 
not as rare as I think as I'm not usually home 
by then. Heading out this evening, so it's bound to be a good one!


73,

Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, AB, Canada


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Re: [IRCA] AM stations in mexico

[Phil Bytheway via IRCA]

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Paul

Of course I will recommend the IRCA Mexican Log, which is nearly ready to be 
published (Christmas present?) It is being updated as we speak, but not quite 
finished.

I will post an announcement when it is ready to order.
Phil Bytheway
IRCA Bookstore/Goodie Factory
Seattle WA 
Drake R-7 / KIWA Loop 

On Wednesday, November 28, 2018, 6:38:53 PM PST, Paul B. Walker, Jr. 
 wrote:  
 
 Where can I find a list thats at least fairly accurate of AM stations form
Mexico?
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[IRCA] ho hum, TAs again

[Nigel Pimblett]

Hope you west coasters are ready for some more TA action.  Nice Jil FM 
ID at 2340, had Romania on 1179 as early as 2300. Maybe that's not 
as rare as I think as I'm not usually home by then. Heading out this 
evening, so it's bound to be a good one!


73,

Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, AB, Canada


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Re: [IRCA] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Mark Pettifor]

I keep seeing the phrase "steep learning curve". Is this because there 
is no documentation on how to use it?


Mark Pettifor
Goshen, IN

On 2018-11-29 6:08 pm, hoddles...@gmail.com wrote:

Go for it.

It’s a fairly steep learning curve but I use it now virtually 100%.

Paul
Troon, Scotland

Sent from my iPad


On 29 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Brandon Jordan  wrote:

Many thanks for all the responses. My 'new' Perseus arrived and I have 
been
playing with Jaguar Lite and enjoying it so far and will likely give 
the

Pro version a try.

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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[hoddlesden]

Go for it.

It’s a fairly steep learning curve but I use it now virtually 100%.

Paul
Troon, Scotland

Sent from my iPad

> On 29 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Brandon Jordan  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks for all the responses. My 'new' Perseus arrived and I have been
> playing with Jaguar Lite and enjoying it so far and will likely give the
> Pro version a try.
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Brandon Jordan]

Many thanks for all the responses. My 'new' Perseus arrived and I have been
playing with Jaguar Lite and enjoying it so far and will likely give the
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Gary DeBock]

<<< If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
Rocco >>>

Rocco, you have just analyzed and determined the primary factor behind the 
worldwide boom in Ultralight radio popularity, especially the concept of 
deploying to isolated ocean beaches with nothing but basic equipment and your 
own DXing skill. Congratulations on your insight!

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

> On November 29, 2018 at 5:26 AM Rocco Cotroneo  mailto:rocco.cotro...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> Jaguar is hyper assisted DXing. It's like fishing in open ocean
> with a huge net which is also selecting your preys. Its easiness for
> recognising offsets and the huge database embedded means he knows
> before you what's on the dial and tells you where to go and catch it.
> It's only patience and luck (for the id, eventually), no intuition and
> very little experience needed. The main expertise you need is to grasp
> all the software tools for maximum efficiency. It has been invented in
> Scandinavia, where conditions are such that almost every night you can
> fill some Terabytes, and you would need to live 1000 years to review
> all of it. If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
> hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
> Rocco
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno gio 29 nov 2018 alle ore 01:28 Sylvain Naud
> mailto:sylvainnau...@gmail.com > ha scritto:
> >
> 
> > > I have been using Jaguar on a regular basis for one + year and I 
> would
> > say that for deep MW file analysis, Jaguar is the best tool. I
> > particularly like the Extended Scan feature where one can perform 
> > from
> > wav files, an high resolution deep bandscan of split carriers over a
> > certain period of time (witch can mean hours of files). And with 
> > gaining
> > experience, it become easier to spot on a carrier where audio can be
> > find, this especially under the lowest QRM. This process saves me 
> > quite
> > some time when reviewing (juicy) files.
> > 
> > As for live listening, I still prefer the ease of the Perseus.exe 
> > GUI
> > for the reasons Chuck just gave.
> > 
> > Sylvain
> > 
> > Le 2018-11-27 à 23:41, Chuck Hutton a écrit :
> > 
> > > > > I think the overall consensus is that Jaguar audio is a 
> > bit better than Perseus. Much like the old SDR-IQ had a slight advantage..
> > > 
> > > But I chose not to use Jaguar as I find the 
> > > one-screen-does-all approach of the Perseus makes filter adjustment, 
> > > volume adjustment, frequency changes, fine tunig to get an off frequency 
> > > signal centered etc easy.
> > > 
> > > But I am still tempted to play with Jaguar every now and then.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Chuck
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: IRCA  > > mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com > on behalf of Neil Kazaross 
> > > mailto:neilka...@gmail.com >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:31 PM
> > > Cc: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com ; 
> > > nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
> > > 
> > > For me the real question is how is audio recovery with Jaguar 
> > > compared to
> > > default, for weak splits like the TA's DU's and very rare 
> > > TP's that can
> > > make it into our Midwest? 73 KAZ
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 5:36 PM James Niven 
> > > mailto:jni...@austin.rr.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > Hi Brandon,
> > > > 
> > > > I have the Perseus SDR receiver and I have the Jaguar 
> > > > software, but it is
> > > > a little bit of a learning curve.
> > > > From what I have seen with this software so far, it is 
> > > > great for seeing
> > > > the various carriers on each frequency, but like I 
> > > > mentioned I am still
> > > > learning to use the software.
> > > > Maybe others will chime in
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: nrc...@googlegroups.com 
> > > > mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com  > > > mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of
> > > > Brandon Jordan
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:21 PM
> > > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com 
> > > > ; nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
> > > > 
> > > > There has to be many MW DXer’s in NA still using 
> > > > Perseus SDR. Why do you
> > > > Perseus folks not use Jaguar?
> > > > 
> > > >

[IRCA] A couple new ones

[David Faulkner via IRCA]

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Hi All:
A couple new loggings here.
1010, WPCN, WI, Steven's Point 11/22, 1800 coming out of "Walk Away, Renee," 
w/"True Oldies" ID, good & on top of everything.
1180, WSQR, IL, Sycamore 11/28, 1710-15 w/WHAM nulled; interminable version of 
'Winter Wonderland," talk about an undrafter FB player for Denver & very clear 
"WSQR" ID. Good signal.
73David FaulknerAlbany, Ohio


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[IRCA] 29 Nov WC TP’s perky

[R. Colin Newell]

I didn’t have more than a few minutes this AM - but between 1530 and 1540U the 
mid and upper band got quite bouncy with a vivacious SR and PSR lift. 

Overall very Chinese sounding with 1458, 1503, 1557, 1566, 1575 and 1593 
leading the rush in the upper end zone. 

Only one dropping the ball was me - having to rush off to breakfast and work. 

Drake R8 - Flags - etc 

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Barry Davies via IRCA]

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HelloI agree with the comment:  I always felt like I was DXing through a 
microscope. The display means you only check sections of the recording. The new 
CUSTOM FREQS facility enable you to save the frequency setting you found best. 
The detailed frequency read out means you can discount or not stations before 
any audio peaks. True JAGUAR has a multiplicity of settings but to keep things 
simple I only use the ones that work for me. I paid around $50 for JAGUAR PRO 
and worth every Cent.

Best wishes

Barry 

Carlisle UK.  Lat. 55.0119N   Lon. -2.9668W. 

On Thursday, 29 November 2018, 15:30:00 GMT, Volodya S  
wrote:  
 
 While DXing in PEI, I was re-introduced to SDR Console.  For reviewing
files, I found it superior (simpler to use and easier to go forward/back,
and to proceed from wav to wav files) compared to the native Perseus
program.  No comment re audio recovery.  Couldn't tell any difference
thereWalt

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:49 PM bill [his.com]  wrote:

> As long as we’re discussing Jaguar ...
>
> I always felt like I was DXing through a microscope with it.  While other
> programs default to either a waterfall or peak-and-valley graph of a hunk
> of spectrum, Jaguar defaults to a microscopic view of the frequency you’re
> DXing.
>
> I have used both full-bore Jaguar [a few years ago or more] and Jaguar
> Lite and was never able to overcome the learning curve with either.
>
> Like Chuck said though, I do go back to Jaguar Lite every now and then to
> review wav files to see if I’ve missed something.
>
> I have never really used the full power of Jaguar — particularly the
> analysis tools and such — though I REALLY liked the full-featured Mestor
> built-in that included all the things I wish the stand-alone version
> released years ago leaves out.
>
> It was if Jaguar required a certain ’style’ of very serious DXing that I
> was just no in-sync with.  My fault, not theirs.
>
> Bill Whitacre
> Alexandria, VA
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Volodya S]

While DXing in PEI, I was re-introduced to SDR Console.  For reviewing
files, I found it superior (simpler to use and easier to go forward/back,
and to proceed from wav to wav files) compared to the native Perseus
program.  No comment re audio recovery.   Couldn't tell any difference
thereWalt

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:49 PM bill [his.com]  wrote:

> As long as we’re discussing Jaguar ...
>
> I always felt like I was DXing through a microscope with it.  While other
> programs default to either a waterfall or peak-and-valley graph of a hunk
> of spectrum, Jaguar defaults to a microscopic view of the frequency you’re
> DXing.
>
> I have used both full-bore Jaguar [a few years ago or more] and Jaguar
> Lite and was never able to overcome the learning curve with either.
>
> Like Chuck said though, I do go back to Jaguar Lite every now and then to
> review wav files to see if I’ve missed something.
>
> I have never really used the full power of Jaguar — particularly the
> analysis tools and such — though I REALLY liked the full-featured Mestor
> built-in that included all the things I wish the stand-alone version
> released years ago leaves out.
>
> It was if Jaguar required a certain ’style’ of very serious DXing that I
> was just no in-sync with.  My fault, not theirs.
>
> Bill Whitacre
> Alexandria, VA
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[IRCA] Oklahoma TP DX 11/29/18

[Richard N. Allen via IRCA]

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594 JOAK barely audible at 1225; poor at 1302-1323 (LSR 1321).
747 JOIB poor at 1222-1224.
774 JOUB poor at 1217-1218.
828 JOBB poor at 1314.
972 HLCA barely audible at 1257; poor at 1305-1322.
Receiver: Skywave with 8-inch FSL.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.

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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[bill [his.com]]

As long as we’re discussing Jaguar ...

I always felt like I was DXing through a microscope with it.  While other 
programs default to either a waterfall or peak-and-valley graph of a hunk of 
spectrum, Jaguar defaults to a microscopic view of the frequency you’re DXing.

I have used both full-bore Jaguar [a few years ago or more] and Jaguar Lite and 
was never able to overcome the learning curve with either.

Like Chuck said though, I do go back to Jaguar Lite every now and then to 
review wav files to see if I’ve missed something.

I have never really used the full power of Jaguar — particularly the analysis 
tools and such — though I REALLY liked the full-featured Mestor built-in that 
included all the things I wish the stand-alone version released years ago 
leaves out.

It was if Jaguar required a certain ’style’ of very serious DXing that I was 
just no in-sync with.  My fault, not theirs.

Bill Whitacre
Alexandria, VA
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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?

[Rocco Cotroneo]

   Jaguar is hyper assisted DXing. It's like fishing in open ocean
with a huge net which is also selecting your preys. Its easiness for
recognising offsets and the huge database embedded means he knows
before you what's on the dial and tells you where to go and catch it.
It's only patience and luck (for the id, eventually), no intuition and
very little experience needed. The main expertise you need is to grasp
all the software tools for maximum efficiency. It has been invented in
Scandinavia, where conditions are such that almost every night you can
fill some Terabytes, and you would need to live 1000 years to review
all of it. If SDR vs live DXing killed a good part of emotion in this
hobby, Jaguar is finishing the job.
Rocco



Il giorno gio 29 nov 2018 alle ore 01:28 Sylvain Naud
 ha scritto:
>
> I have been using Jaguar on a regular basis for one + year and I would
> say that for deep MW file analysis, Jaguar is the best tool. I
> particularly like the Extended Scan feature where one can perform from
> wav files, an high resolution deep bandscan of split carriers over a
> certain period of time (witch can mean hours of files). And with gaining
> experience, it become easier to spot on a carrier where audio can be
> find, this especially under the lowest QRM. This process saves me quite
> some time when reviewing (juicy) files.
>
> As for live listening, I still prefer the ease of the Perseus.exe GUI
> for the reasons Chuck just gave.
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 2018-11-27 à 23:41, Chuck Hutton a écrit :
> > I think the overall consensus is that Jaguar audio is a bit better than 
> > Perseus. Much like the old SDR-IQ had a slight advantage.
> >
> > But I chose not to use Jaguar as I find the one-screen-does-all approach of 
> > the Perseus makes filter adjustment, volume adjustment, frequency changes, 
> > fine tunig to get an off frequency signal centered etc easy.
> >
> > But I am still tempted to play with Jaguar every now and then.
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Neil Kazaross 
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:31 PM
> > Cc: irca@hard-core-dx.com; nrc...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
> >
> > For me the real question is how is audio recovery with Jaguar compared to
> > default, for weak splits like the TA's DU's and very rare TP's that can
> > make it into our Midwest?  73 KAZ
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 5:36 PM James Niven  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Brandon,
> >>
> >> I have the Perseus SDR receiver and I have the Jaguar software, but it is
> >> a little bit of a learning curve.
> >>  From what I have seen with this software so far, it is great for seeing
> >> the various carriers on each frequency, but like I mentioned I am still
> >> learning to use the software.
> >> Maybe others will chime in
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: nrc...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> >> Brandon Jordan
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:21 PM
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; nrc...@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: [nrc-am] Perseus and Jaguar?
> >>
> >> There has to be many MW DXer’s in NA still using Perseus SDR. Why do you
> >> Perseus  folks not use Jaguar?
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Re: [IRCA] AM stations in mexico

[Russ Edmunds]

I would be wary of the FCC data for any other countries - first this data
contains inactive allocations, unused grants and is somewhat outdated. That
said though, I don't know of any online source which would meet the need.

Russ Edmunds






On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:56 PM Ken Waters  wrote:

> Try the FCC database:  https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/am-query.  I use it
> quite a bit and it has many, many Mexican stations as well as Central
> American in there.
>
> Ken/N4PBY
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:58 PM Linnea Gutierrez-Wilson <
> linnea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A good starting point would be WRTH - the Word Radio and Television
> > Handbook
> >
> > http://www.wrth.com/
> >
> > 2019 version is available for pre-order.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:38 PM Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Where can I find a list thats at least fairly accurate of AM stations
> > form
> > > Mexico?
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