Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
Maybe someone at sdr_filesharing Yahoo group would like to get James' and other files together somewhere? 73, Mauno Joensuu, Finland Guy Atkins kirjoitti 13.8.2018 klo 22:16: Hi James, Thanks for your offer to contribute new files, but my Perseus blog was active from 2007-2011; I have not been adding to the WAV file directory since then. I've only maintained the existing recordings in cloud storage for archive purposes. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA -- Forwarded message -- From: To: "'Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America'" < irca@hard-core-dx.com> Cc: Bcc: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 15:52:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Thanks Guy for the link! Do you have any SDR recordings from the past year or two? I do have some ELAD recordings from Corpus Christi, TX DX trip from 2015 and 2016 and also from here at home base in Cedar Creek, TX I can contribute to your web page if you wish them? Thanks James Niven Austin, Texas ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
Hi James, Thanks for your offer to contribute new files, but my Perseus blog was active from 2007-2011; I have not been adding to the WAV file directory since then. I've only maintained the existing recordings in cloud storage for archive purposes. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > To: "'Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America'" < > irca@hard-core-dx.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 15:52:50 -0500 > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > Thanks Guy for the link! > Do you have any SDR recordings from the past year or two? > I do have some ELAD recordings from Corpus Christi, TX DX trip from 2015 > and > 2016 and also from here at home base in Cedar Creek, TX I can contribute to > your web page if you wish them? > Thanks > > James Niven > Austin, Texas > > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
Thanks Guy for the link! Do you have any SDR recordings from the past year or two? I do have some ELAD recordings from Corpus Christi, TX DX trip from 2015 and 2016 and also from here at home base in Cedar Creek, TX I can contribute to your web page if you wish them? Thanks James Niven Austin, Texas -Original Message- From: IRCA On Behalf Of Guy Atkins Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 3:22 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Hi Mark, I still have all those old WAV files from the blog available for anyone who wants to try them. As you'll recall they were recorded by DXers from many continents and locations. The earliest ones are from Grayland and Cappahayden and date from November, 2008. These are all Perseus files, which should play well in HDSDR also (If I recall correctly). Here's the link: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/1shbad73mby1c/wav 73, Guy --- Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff From: Mark Connelly > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 01:17:52 -0400 Is anyone going to put some of the DXpedition's better Perseus files up on a cloud server? Almost 10 years ago Guy Atkins was doing that kind of thing with his now-defunct "Five Below" webpage. Seems that it would be even easier to find somewhere to park ~2 GB capture files now. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
Hi Mark, I still have all those old WAV files from the blog available for anyone who wants to try them. As you'll recall they were recorded by DXers from many continents and locations. The earliest ones are from Grayland and Cappahayden and date from November, 2008. These are all Perseus files, which should play well in HDSDR also (If I recall correctly). Here's the link: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/1shbad73mby1c/wav 73, Guy --- Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff From: Mark Connelly > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 01:17:52 -0400 Is anyone going to put some of the DXpedition's better Perseus files up on a cloud server? Almost 10 years ago Guy Atkins was doing that kind of thing with his now-defunct "Five Below" webpage. Seems that it would be even easier to find somewhere to park ~2 GB capture files now. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
If you're happy with Google Earth, try these Mark (these are sites used in the last go round): Rockwork 2: 45.7447 N / 123.9607 W Rockwork 3: 45.7438 N / 123.9593 W Rockwork 4: 45.7435 N / 123.9583 W Rockwork 5: 45.7424 N / 123.9561 W Rockwork 6: 45.7415 N / 123.9541 W Not much to choose between them, easy walking distance, unlike the mountain top above, or the beach below. best wishes, Nick At 05:17 2018-08-11, Mark Connelly via IRCA wrote: Somebody needs to equate the various Rockworks sites with latitudes and longitudes. A handheld GPS coupled with online mapping tools could sort that out in short order. For instance, a couple of the noteworthy big-gun East Coast DXing sites are Granite Pier - Rockport, MA at 42.667 N / 70.621 W and Tonset Rd. - Orleans, MA at 41.8072 N / 69.9537 W. Is anyone going to put some of the DXpedition's better Perseus files up on a cloud server? Almost 10 years ago Guy Atkins was doing that kind of thing with his now-defunct "Five Below" webpage. Seems that it would be even easier to find somewhere to park ~2 GB capture files now. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA << Nick Hall-Patch Victoria, BC Canada ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
--- Begin Message --- Somebody needs to equate the various Rockworks sites with latitudes and longitudes. A handheld GPS coupled with online mapping tools could sort that out in short order. For instance, a couple of the noteworthy big-gun East Coast DXing sites are Granite Pier - Rockport, MA at 42.667 N / 70.621 W and Tonset Rd. - Orleans, MA at 41.8072 N / 69.9537 W. Is anyone going to put some of the DXpedition's better Perseus files up on a cloud server? Almost 10 years ago Guy Atkins was doing that kind of thing with his now-defunct "Five Below" webpage. Seems that it would be even easier to find somewhere to park ~2 GB capture files now. Mark Connelly, WA1ION South Yarmouth, MA << And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using. But. Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said: Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around 1140 (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs completely jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for Rockwork 6, which not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of space. There were several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting up our FSL's on the south end. So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call any turnoff whatever he wants. In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered it. Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases.. 73 and Good DX, Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) >>--- End Message --- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
OK, the time honored numbering system is still in force. And don't worry, I don't think there is anyone on this planet that uses "north" and "highest" as synonyms. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:16 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Chuck, "Highest" means in elevation, not in direction (such as 'North"). I had assumed that everyone would understand this, but if you didn't, that was the source of the misunderstanding. In any case, as long as all DXers agree of the cliff turnoff numbering system, the issue is resolved, as far as I'm concerned. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 9:08 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: But your post of an hour ago called the north end "#1" (as we always have) and it is the high end. That's different from your post last Saturday, which called #6 the highest turnout. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:03 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff <<< So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. >>> Kind of puzzled with the "new scheme" reference, Chuck-- I've always referred to #6 as the turnoff with the highest elevation. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 8:51 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using. But. Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said: Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around 1140 (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs completely jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for Rockwork 6, which not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of space. There were several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting up our FSL's on the south end. So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. Chuck ________________ From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call any turnoff whatever he wants. In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered it. Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases.. 73 and Good DX, Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://mo
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
Chuck, "Highest" means in elevation, not in direction (such as 'North"). I had assumed that everyone would understand this, but if you didn't, that was the source of the misunderstanding. In any case, as long as all DXers agree of the cliff turnoff numbering system, the issue is resolved, as far as I'm concerned. Gary > On August 10, 2018 at 9:08 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: > > But your post of an hour ago called the north end "#1" (as we always > have) and it is the high end. > That's different from your post last Saturday, which called #6 the > highest turnout. > > Chuck > > > > - > From: Gary DeBock > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:03 PM > To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > > <<< So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I > followed suite with the new scheme. >>> > > Kind of puzzled with the "new scheme" reference, Chuck-- I've always > referred to #6 as the turnoff with the highest elevation. > > Gary > > > > > On August 10, 2018 at 8:51 PM Chuck Hutton > wrote: > > > > And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using. > > > > But. Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said: > > > > Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around > > 1140 (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs > > completely jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for > > Rockwork 6, which not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of > > space. There were several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting > > up our FSL's on the south end. > > > > So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I > > followed suite with the new scheme. > > > > Chuck > > > > - > > From: Gary DeBock > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM > > To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > > > > FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by > > DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, > > not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can > > call any turnoff whatever he wants. > > > > In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried > > setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the > > Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as > > you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large > > turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff > > after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), > > while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. > > Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which > > always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered > > it. > > > > Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since > > every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody > > accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to > > scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff > > numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text > > messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number > > (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may > > misunderstand you. > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton > > wrote: > > > > > > FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was > > > at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > From: IRCA on behalf of Gary > > > DeBock > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM > > > To: America, Mailing > > > Subject: [IRCA] Five DXe
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
But your post of an hour ago called the north end "#1" (as we always have) and it is the high end. That's different from your post last Saturday, which called #6 the highest turnout. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:03 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff <<< So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. >>> Kind of puzzled with the "new scheme" reference, Chuck-- I've always referred to #6 as the turnoff with the highest elevation. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 8:51 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using. But. Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said: Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around 1140 (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs completely jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for Rockwork 6, which not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of space. There were several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting up our FSL's on the south end. So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call any turnoff whatever he wants. In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered it. Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases.. 73 and Good DX, Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
<<< So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. >>> Kind of puzzled with the "new scheme" reference, Chuck-- I've always referred to #6 as the turnoff with the highest elevation. Gary > On August 10, 2018 at 8:51 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: > > And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using. > > But. Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said: > > Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around 1140 > (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs completely > jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for Rockwork 6, which > not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of space. There were > several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting up our FSL's on the > south end. > > So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I > followed suite with the new scheme. > > Chuck > > - > From: Gary DeBock > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM > To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > > FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers > since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not > Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call > any turnoff whatever he wants. > > In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up > at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 > turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff > from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up > the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone > knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively > small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, > open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for > antenna setup until the squatters discovered it. > > Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every > DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted > the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every > morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly > became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if > you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- > the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you. > > Gary > > > > > On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton > wrote: > > > > FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at > > Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > - > > From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM > > To: America, Mailing > > Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > > > > > > > > Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers > > is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable > > space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local > > time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at > > Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at > > various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to > > my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, > > which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large > > FSL's and PVC bases. > > > > > > 73 and Good DX, > > > > Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using. But. Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said: Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around 1140 (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs completely jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for Rockwork 6, which not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of space. There were several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting up our FSL's on the south end. So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call any turnoff whatever he wants. In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered it. Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you. Gary On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases.. 73 and Good DX, Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call any turnoff whatever he wants. In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered it. Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you. Gary > On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: > > FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at Rockworks > 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. > > Chuck > > > > - > From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock > > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM > To: America, Mailing > Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > > > > Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is > never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to > set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I > noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 > (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various > places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my > vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which > had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and > PVC bases. > > > 73 and Good DX, > > Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) > > > > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites), I was at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning.. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases.. 73 and Good DX, Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
Hi Bob, <<< I'm sure it's about #2,758 on their list of priorities, but would a friendly phone call or two to the Oregon Highway Patrol help in moving the squatters along? >>> Unfortunately, since it's a major U.S. highway (101) inside an Oregon state park (Oswald West), the squatters apparently have the right to stay there as long as they want. As I was explaining to Bill W., about half of them seem to be tourists who don't want to pay for a motel room, but the other half seem to be hard luck individuals living inside their vehicles indefinitely. Gary > On August 7, 2018 at 7:22 PM Bob Coomler wrote: > > I'm sure it's about #2,758 on their list of priorities, but would a > friendly phone call or two to the Oregon Highway Patrol help in moving the > squatters along? > > Bob Coomler W7SWL > Tucson, AZ > > > > - > From: Gary DeBock > To: "America, Mailing" > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:02 PM > Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff > > It's safe to say that this morning's ocean cliff transoceanic > propagation provided a real thrill for all five of us. Despite the need to > dodge the squatters and spread out over three different Highway 101 turnoffs, > the exceptional Kiwi propagation reminded us again how unique this wild cliff > can be. > > Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is > never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to > set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I > noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 > (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various > places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my > vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which > had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and > PVC bases. > > After enjoying 6 days of thrilling DU-DX on the cliff Craig had > become a pretty skillful live DXer and Baby FSL user, and by now he was fully > capable of running independently on his own. During the DXpedition he had > switched to a new-design, TSA friendly 3.5" FSL with a rubber locking collar > to keep all the ferrite rods securely in place-- and he was using it to track > down almost as much DU-DX as I was. He alerted me when stations on 531, 585, > 936 and 1017 were coming in, and mentioned that this type of DXing was so > thrilling that he needed to book a return trip next August right away. > > After the session all 5 DXers got together at Rockwork 4 to discuss > the exceptional results. 1 kW Kiwi stations like 936-Chinese Voice were as > strong as they've ever been, with Nick mentioning reception of 540-Rhema (a > low-powered NZ network). Tom said he had great Kiwi conditions all over the > band, so after he and Chuck review their Perseus files this DXpedition could > well compete for the all-time Kiwi MW-DX record on the west coast > (established here in July of 2014). > > Photos from this morning's session are posted at > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/0wxcc0b1cvt3220ir7htdouddcmnngp4 > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/0wxcc0b1cvt3220ir7htdouddcmnngp4 (Craig, Chuck, > Tom and Nick at Rockwork 4) and at > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/y9j42u9c7pg9ey7e6n7vnmd69dquw522 > > (Craig and me alongside "FSL Row" at Rockwork 6) > > > 73 and Good DX, > > Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information:http://www.ircaonline.org/ > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff
--- Begin Message --- I'm sure it's about #2,758 on their list of priorities, but would a friendly phone call or two to the Oregon Highway Patrol help in moving the squatters along? Bob Coomler W7SWLTucson, AZ From: Gary DeBock To: "America, Mailing" Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:02 PM Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff It's safe to say that this morning's ocean cliff transoceanic propagation provided a real thrill for all five of us. Despite the need to dodge the squatters and spread out over three different Highway 101 turnoffs, the exceptional Kiwi propagation reminded us again how unique this wild cliff can be. Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases. After enjoying 6 days of thrilling DU-DX on the cliff Craig had become a pretty skillful live DXer and Baby FSL user, and by now he was fully capable of running independently on his own. During the DXpedition he had switched to a new-design, TSA friendly 3.5" FSL with a rubber locking collar to keep all the ferrite rods securely in place-- and he was using it to track down almost as much DU-DX as I was. He alerted me when stations on 531, 585, 936 and 1017 were coming in, and mentioned that this type of DXing was so thrilling that he needed to book a return trip next August right away. After the session all 5 DXers got together at Rockwork 4 to discuss the exceptional results. 1 kW Kiwi stations like 936-Chinese Voice were as strong as they've ever been, with Nick mentioning reception of 540-Rhema (a low-powered NZ network). Tom said he had great Kiwi conditions all over the band, so after he and Chuck review their Perseus files this DXpedition could well compete for the all-time Kiwi MW-DX record on the west coast (established here in July of 2014). Photos from this morning's session are posted at https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/0wxcc0b1cvt3220ir7htdouddcmnngp4 (Craig, Chuck, Tom and Nick at Rockwork 4) and at https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/y9j42u9c7pg9ey7e6n7vnmd69dquw522 (Craig and me alongside "FSL Row" at Rockwork 6) 73 and Good DX, Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com --- End Message --- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
