Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-12 Thread aklist
> -Original Message- > From: Bruno Lowagie [mailto:br...@lowagie.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 2:43 AM > To: Post all your questions about iText here > Subject: Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list > > Op 8/10/2012 17:02, McGee, Edwin

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Berk
estion"). Not sure how/if you solve that issue. Jason -Original Message- From: Bruno Lowagie [mailto:br...@lowagie.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 2:43 AM To: Post all your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list Op 8/10/2012 17

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-09 Thread Andrew J Daykin
Well, I read the list on a regular basis. I work for a company that has a support contract with iText but since my use case isn't covered by that, I am on my own. I've used iText to create a few PDF Utilities that help me in my day to day job. I learnt how to use the library by searching, readi

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-09 Thread Brian . Moore
bout iText here'" , Date: 10/08/2012 04:25 AM Subject: Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list Personally. I would prefer the mailing list, but I FULLY understand your frustration with 'stupid' questions, but your stance of 'why are yo

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-09 Thread Wain, Matthew
your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list Op 8/10/2012 17:02, McGee, Edwin F. Sr. schreef: > I would agree with those wishing to keep the mailing list open and selectively responding/posting the questions which meet mailing list criteria.

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-09 Thread Bill Ensley
I think this is exactly what is needed. We all see these questions that frustrate you. I don't think anyone would take issue with the canned answer scenario. I would truly miss the list, I listen everyday and answer when there is a question that fits my expertise (which is rare, true, but does h

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Op 8/10/2012 17:02, McGee, Edwin F. Sr. schreef: > I would agree with those wishing to keep the mailing list open and > selectively responding/posting the questions which meet mailing list criteria. I see many +1's for answers in favor of keeping the mailing list. I'm an autist, and one of my li

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Op 8/10/2012 17:48, Alex Jones schreef: > a traditional forum A traditional forum involves more administrative work than a mailing list. The mailing list: I need to look at the mails that are put on hold, and then filter those that are SPAM: see http://lowagie.com/itextml Most problematic are th

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Op 9/10/2012 4:22, Gershkovich, Peter schreef: > Do what you feel is right. I'm pleasantly surprised by the reactions on my rant. I've read some really good suggestions. -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your busines

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Op 8/10/2012 19:06, linuxunil schreef: > I personally am against the monetization of the library and forum. You can > not change the philosophy of a project like this. I agree. Documentation should be free. That's why I decided to write the new tutorials without a publisher. I also don't like the

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Gershkovich, Peter
Bruno, Do what you feel is right. In my opinion, with your book an other resources available there is very little one need to ask in order to get going. Robert Sheckley wrote in one of his short stories that "in order to ask a question you need to know most of the answer". There should be a disc

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Alex Jones
I've recently joined the mailing list and I found it to be invaluable, the only reason I found it so useful is that there aren't any decent official forums. You need to purchase the book and then each of the forum sections are chapters in the book, I appreciate the need to monetize the library and

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread Bill Ensley
+1 On 10/8/2012 8:02 AM, McGee, Edwin F. Sr. wrote: I would agree with those wishing to keep the mailing list open and selectively responding/posting the questions which meet mailing list criteria. As mentioned by another member of the mailing list, simply because I submit a question doesn't

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread McGee, Edwin F. Sr.
I would agree with those wishing to keep the mailing list open and selectively responding/posting the questions which meet mailing list criteria. As mentioned by another member of the mailing list, simply because I submit a question doesn't mean the question will be posted. Furthermore, I unde

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-08 Thread John Renfrew
Personally. I would prefer the mailing list, but I FULLY understand your frustration with 'stupid' questions, but your stance of 'why are you asking ME to do your work for you for free' is completely valid. But then what about those of us who use iText and keep our work open? Some of us are not in

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-07 Thread Bruno Lowagie
On 7/10/2012 10:46, WMJ wrote: > Will the gate to contribution remain open when the support is switched > to StackOverflow? Contributions by customers are done through JIRA. Contributions by users are always discussed publicly first, it doesn't really matter where they are discussed. Code is alw

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-07 Thread WMJ
So, you are gonna move the support of iText from the mailing list to StackOverflow? That's a better place for sharing and searching questions-and-answers. Previously I've contributed the 2GB+ Support fix to iText, by posting messages in both this mail-list and the bug system in SF.net. Will the

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread Bruno Lowagie
On 7/10/2012 1:58, Kevin Day wrote: > Maybe when people find bugs or enhancement requests we start to really > encourage them to create tickets? I don't really like the ticketing system on SourceForge. I don't like the SourceForge upgrade in general. For paying customers, we use JIRA as ticketing

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread Bruno Lowagie
On 6/10/2012 23:00, Alekz ! wrote: > My only advise is: Don't let a bunch of lazy/ignorants ruin your day. That's easier said than done ;-) > Maybe letting a colleague answer them is a better choice. We started doing this. As the company grows, I'm hiring more people. --

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread Paul Hastings
i'm sure whatever you decide will be for the best. though frankly, i'll miss the occasional "same way i convert chickens to chocolate" zingers ;-) -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread Dominic Maricic
How about setting up a real forum using something like SMF (simple machines.org). You can Institute a kamra system and see how many posts each person has made plus you would have complete control of the site. I used to contribute a ton of time coding over there and would be willing to help set it

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread David Landis
+1 on moving to stackoverflow The data is structured, tagged, more easily searched and read, and more people will participate and be exposed to iText. Also remember it is acceptable on SO to ask then answer your own questions. So you could make a sort of FAQ there if you wanted. On Saturday, Oct

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread Alekz !
o support, that don't contribute in any way and even worse, that don't have a polite way of asking. Maybe letting a colleague answer them is a better choice. Regards,Alex Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 12:14:29 +0200 From: leontis...@gmail.com To: itext-questions@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread José Santiago Bonilla Pazmiño
+1 for Stackoverflow, I found the answer I was looking for here in the mail list, and a bug was fixed then, but Stackoverflow sounds good enough to help with colaboration. Finally, a mailing list has always been the lab for growing ideas and working on them, so I suggest to keep the mail list not

Re: [iText-questions] My plan to shut down the mailing-list

2012-10-06 Thread Alberto León
I support your feels. I participate little in maling list, because in most cases I got the solutions reading others or searching. Of course in the book iText in Action. The 80% of questions are already asked and responded or are explained very well in the book. Most of the questions demonstrates t