y of java dev. in my time.
thanks in advance,
matt law.
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I know it is time consuming to run all these benchmarks and objectively
publish the results. I desperately wanted to know how the JDK 5.0
compared to other VMs as well, but I simply didn't have the time to run
all these benchmarks myself. Thanks again!
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Hello,
I just got an email from a Sun lawyer advising me to
rename the Java Republic news blog to the Republic for
discussion of Java(tm) technology or to the Republic
regarding the Java(tm) platform.
I'm not maki
These new worms are harvesting e-mail off of Windows users machine and
rewriting the "from" field. I use Mozilla on a Linux box and I've
already received several messages from people stating I sent them an
e-mail with a virus. I'm pretty sure they didn't come from my machine! ;)
Ricardo Limon
I have had some very strange problems running Java apps with KDE. The
Oracle Java installer comes to mind.
I always run Gnome and developed a fairly large Swing app on my Linux
box ( Mandrake 8.2 then 9.0, Eclipse 2.0 then 2.1 ). We did not
experience any focus problems. The other developers
Muhammad,
Other objects requiring a Local will pick up a default locale if it
isn't supplied. On Unix systems you can set the default Locale that
Java will use by setting some environment variables. Type "locale" at
he command line to see the value of these variables.
Otherwise I have had co
Some of the best thread programming advice I've ever read was to never
use Thread.yield() or mess with thread priorities or ThreadGroups in
Java. In my opinion, it's a mistake in the Java API that we even have
the *idea* of Thread.yield() and priorities for the very reason that we
*like* to pr
ze if 512MB.
Where is all this extra memory coming from? 1GB real memory and 700+MB swap
in use. Does the jvm itself leak memory, even with a fixed heap size?
-d-
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If any memory has paged to swap, garbage collection through the swap
will be excruciatingly slow. Is another app consuming memory, forcing
the server to use the swap partition heavily?
Dave A King wrote:
I'm trying to troubleshoot some really bizarre behavior in a recent build of
our applicatio
I would be more than happy to help with builds of the Blackdown JVM.
What do we have to do to get CVS access?
Narendra Sankar wrote:
Hi Everyone
Since I discovered Jedit, I have been looking into jvm performance,
specifically on linux as that is my platform of choice. I love jedit and it
has a
John,
You can run "/usr/bin/strings core" to get some info from the core file.
I have been doing Java development daily on a Mandrake 8.2 system for
several months. Glibc version is 2.2.4, but I continuously move to the
latest versions of the Blackdown JVM (currently 1.4.1 beta) so it's been
John,
Thanks for sending the results of the Volano benchmark to the list. It
was interesting to see the performance comparisons. However, I was
disappointed to see that SMP hardware was not used in the test. Is
there a chance that we will see published numbers that show results on
SMP hardware
Jesse Erdmann wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm trying to port a Java server from Windows to Linux. Both need to
> be interoperable and the clients (Win*/Linux on x86) need to be able to
> connect to either.
>
> On the Windows platform, the developers were able to bind a
> Multicas
for people not to send
replies to these "generic" questions to the entire list; we don't need
to see those responses since they aren't relevant.
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If we can throttle those discussions I think the list would clear up and
be more effective for its original purpose.
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eveloper not to the VM,
threads library, or the OS. The above mentioned article is arguing that
Java threads do not allow the developer enough flexibility to write
something really good and that changes need to be made. I think I
agree.
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of the JCP executive
committee so, if the JCP works, some of your changes could easily be
pushed into reality.
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roblems with it. The language spec
is very preliminary and leaves out a lot of details, such as what threads
and locks actually do, what the memory model is, etc. As we all learned
from Java, these seemingly minor details end up being very important down
the line...
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Java. We (the expert group for JSR 51) is currently doing (b).
I am proposing that (a) is useful as well.
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re doing in a 2-tier implementation is
somehow exposing those events to the user in a very coarse-grained and
expensive way (e.g., using signals). In the end your user-level scheduler
does all of the same work and knows about the same things as the kernel
scheduler; why not just optimize kernel threads and be
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> Matt> Turns out this is not as easy as it could be -- because even
> Matt> though you call system calls like read(), write
lect() and nonblocking I/O internally, they don't seem
to scale -- exactly why, I don't know -- probably because of things like
scheduler overhead.
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ur standard C library
happens to be installed), and call them directly.
The good news is that it seems to work. Note that when native threads are used,
the JDK does not attempt any funny business, and there are no problems.
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I thought that Sun's RMI did fairly aggressive thread and socket sharing.
NinjaRMI didn't do this because it complicated the design and made it
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core to our model.
Anyway, I'd be interested to hear any comments about this if you
get a chance to check it out.
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s to Java). It is slated for JDK version 1.4.
This is the earliest it can be done, since 1.3 is already out!
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Also, if you really want this to work, you need to inform the user-level
thread scheduler whenever a kernel thread might block - such as during a
page fault. While something like scheduler activations addresses this, it's
not easy to build.
Matt W
Java BOF
sometime during the week, perhaps just meet up at a bar for drinks.
I would like to be able to put names to faces!
Matt
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Cornell proposed a similar mechanism called "jbufs"
which is based on an extension to the Microsoft Marmot Java compiler.
Basically the same idea.
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> > I guess that in principle it ought to be possible to tweak
> > JVMs to special-case a priviledged class of byte[]s to allow
> > them to be pinned for an extended interval without completely
&
a very interesting space to work in right now. Demanding
I/O applications place a lot of new demands on Java (and operating systems
as well). I would be interested in having more discussion with people on
this list about their experiences!
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s are not so complex.
The only way we've been able to achieve stability is to use Sun JDK 1.1.7v3
with green threads, which clearly defeats the purpose of using SMP systems.
Caveat emptor.
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ibuted to much of the performance imbalance between
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> However, I disagree that native threads are required for serious
> applications. Green threads work surprisingly well for many
> applications. In some, they work better. I recently wrote a spider
> program that was invoking another program in a subpro
ply jump ship and move over to using IBM's JDKs. I know many already have.
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ibnss_dns.so.2 => libnss_dns-2.1.1.so
libnss_db.so.2 => libnss_db-2.1.1.so
libnss_compat.so.2 => libnss_compat-2.1.1.so
libnss_nis.so.1 => libnss1_nis-2.1.1.so
libnss_files.so.1 => libnss1_files-2.1.1.so
libnss_dns.so.1 => libnss1_dns-2.1.1.so
You could borrow the implementation from NinjaRMI, a free "RMI like"
package from:
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/ninja
I think it should be easy to adapt the NinjaRMI Registry implementation to
work with Sun RMI.
Cheers,
compilers probably
expect that the bytecode they're compiling is *not* pre-treated by a tool
such as JOpt, which would make it harder for them to do certain optimizations.
So it's possible that JOpt could actually slow thing
There is an interface called "mm.mysql.jdbc" at
http://www.worldserver.com/mm.mysql/
I've used it and it works well.
Matt Welsh, UC Berkeley
Brian Gilman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello all!
>
> although this is not *exactly* a java Linux ques
iling lists I'm on and you
have a problem. I'd prefer that the list remain limited primarily to
Linux-based Java questions. A good way to limit traffic is not to reply
to the entire list when someone asks an off-topic (e.g., generic Java)
question.
Robert,
Since most of your questions are general Java questions and have
nothing to do with the Linux port of the JDK, can you please direct
them elsewhere? The USENET group comp.lang.java.programmer is probably
a good place to ask.
Thank you,
Matt Welsh, UC Berkeley
"Robert Simmons&quo
h GDB. This is amazingly useful: you can
debug a Java program with native methods all within the same debugging
environment, examine the C->Java stack trace, debug programs which use
multiple (native) threads, and so forth.
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are the culprit.
Both programs are appended below. Can someone shed some light on why
contended locks on Linux perform so poorly?
Thanks!
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* Compile with: gcj -O2 -o TestLock --main=TestLock TestLock.jav
GC thread, say, you need to be tracing that particular
thread; the "info threads" and "thread" command give you a list of threads
and allow you to attach to a particular one, respectively.
Hopefully this will help you to discover what's
d tell me that he has made some fixes to socket support in
the JDK1.2 native VM which may fix these problems; this has not yet been
released, though, so I anxiously await the patch!
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hope I can start to debug myself now...
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Chris Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Excellent! I went that route a couple weeks ago myself, but didn't have
> the time to try to make the patches go. If you don't mind, if for
> whatever reason you're not able to get the patches up on the
> distribution site, would you mind making them avai
h set against
1.2.2 sometime very soon (I hope!)
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ds which are all sleeping.
On JDK1.2 and the IBM JDK 1.1.6 this program works correctly, with two
running 'java' kernel threads.
Could this be a problem with glibc 2.1, or something similar?
The program is appended below. Compile and run it with:
$ javac TestT.java
$ jav
local/image
archive = archive.jar
image file = photo1.jpg
Is it then possible to display the image in a homepage stuctured
by the servlet after the image is retrived from the database
if so how without storing the image in the oracle database ?
Many thanks
are ineligible for support by projects like SourceXchange.
I doubt that most people would consider the Sun Community Source License
to be Open Source, either. What we really should be doing is lobbying
Sun (or other vendors, like IBM) to release their Java implementatio
First off, you have to be running a JIT compiler of some sort -- the
standard release of JDK 1.1.7 for Linux does not include a JIT.
There are several available (such as ShuJIT and TYA).
Amlan Saha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi people
>
> I tried the Java benchmark "Caffeine Mark 3.0" on b
example program which
The fact that you haven't seen this problem under Solaris or WinNT isn't
a good argument for a bug in the Linux JDK; these things may be cropping
up due to race conditions, or else differing (but correct!) implementations
of the threading system.
Matt Welsh
"R.W.
vivo players
> available (mtv has the annoying "register" popup all the time). A
> Java class to do this would be really slick. Also, I don't think
> there are any open source Java classes to load .tiff or .pnm formats
attempting to use an oracle database.
If anyone can help regarding the correct protocols
to use and syntax for connecting oracle and an http
javawebserver it would be great so that I can use
a homepage to query my database.
Many thanks
Matt
>
> From: "John N. Alegre" <[EMAIL PRO
x27;load' command to force the symbols for your
shared object to be loaded into gdb, allowing you to set breakpoints.
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No, 'dbx' is a debugger similar to 'gdb'. It's not a Java debugger like
jdb.
Under Linux, try using gdb and running the 'debug' version of the JVM
(e.g., 'java_g' rather than 'java').
My .gdbinit has the following:
set env THREADS_TYPE=green_threads
set env JAVA_HOME /home/cs/mdw/src/java
too, for future reference.
(you will have to midify it with your location of
java_home and the jshome too).
Try searching in the archive list for the search words
of JavaWebServer it will be there.
Good luck
Matt
> Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:54:13 -0500
> From: Adil Atilgan &
Nathan,
> Depends what it does. If it's GUI-intensive, you need to redesign your
> UI to work through HTML interactions instead of windows and pointers.
What if the application was browser based in the first place would the
same apply then ?
Many thanks
Matt
> Date: Mon, 26
again.
Is it possible to easily migrate the applet application over
to become a servlet based one ?
ie I would like to keep the .class files remotely away from the
odd prying eye, so that they can't be de-compiled.
If it is could someone please inform me.
Many th
Matt Zagni wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> jdbc works for simple select statements like..
>
> But how can you pass this statement
> select count(*) from col
That will depend on your DBMS - JDBC is just a pipe (for the most part,)
sending information to the database back end. Wha
Ok,
jdbc works for simple select statements like..
select * from col
But how can you pass this statement
select count(*) from col
or a more complex statement.
Many thanks
Matt
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Well the problem is now fixed and the WebServer is ok.
A few teething problems on the build but all is working
Are there any problems with the Server in general that anyone
has found ?
I wish to create servlets and connections to Oracle via jdbc.
Many thanks
Matt
;main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: nt
Any ideas on how I can correct the problem ?
Many thanks
Matt
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Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: nt
By ref the classpath I am g
Hopefully I can help a little with the JDE problem. I have been using
JDE/XEmacs v20.4 as my development environment on Debian Linux/i386 for
quite some time.
The following are for XEmacs - YMMV.
Automatic syntax and paren highlighting are in the Options menu.
Remember to save your options after
and tweak the stack with the right value.)
The IBM JDK 1.1.6 works correctly in this case.
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Red Hat 6.0 comes with glibc 2.1.1. When attempting to run 'java' from the
Blackdown jdk 1.1.7v1 release, we get the error message:
/tmp/m/jdk1.1.7v1/bin/../bin/i686/green_threads/java: error in loading shared
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sym
Do you plan on porting HotSpot if and when Sun releases the source code?
Thanks,
Matt Lord
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Maksim Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This I'm afraid makes no sense to me. How does one splinter java by
> standardising it ?
I'm not saying that I agree with this, either --- I'm only conveying what
I believe to be Sun's motivations for maintaining control over Java.
mdw
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I usually can't stand flame bait like this but I wanted to point out one
thing.
Sun has clearly recognized some of the advantages of the Open Source model,
which is the entire reason why they have adopted the 'Sun Community Source
License' for a large number of their products -- including the JD
Apart from the liklihood that there's something wrong in your program,
you could try upgrading to a new version of the Linux JDK (1.1.7v1 is
the latest in the 1.1 series). Socket reads/writes have always worked
for me under Linux.
Michael Durket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm sure this is a
ckdown
port is going on inside of a black box makes it difficult for people to know
what's going on. When things move at "Internet speed", keeping us posted is
that much more important.
Thanks much!
Matt Welsh
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but I found no difficulty in installing
Jserv for Apache. I've never used Sun's server so I can't comment on
relative speed or simplicity, but I guess I saved myself $300 at
least...
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Hello all,
I'm trying to get a Java 1.1 applet to work in Netscape 4.x. There's a
Windows plug-in for it, but the Linux port of the Activator plug-in
seems to have disappeared.
I've downloaded the 1.1.7 JDK and can't use the appletviewer directly
because the applet is sitting behind HTTP authen
Russ Pridemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - RMI seems to have stopped working. I was able, with 1.1.7,
> to run the Swing GUI on a NT machine, talking to the
> the rest of the java application on Linux via RMI. The
> Sun JDK on NT now complains:
> java.rmi.Con
there how important Sun's support of Linux and Java is to you. Believe
me, making noises at this level will permit something to propagate to
higher-ups.
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that such a license is non-binding. It may very well be.
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Hi... I am new to the list.
Congrats to the porting team on the green
box! I think the chart is a good idea to keep us up
to date on port progress. Doesn't seem
like it would take long to update and it's very clear.
Late-
Butler
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Both TYA and the ShuJIT are free JIT's which work with Linux and JDK 1.1 ...
I am assuming that porting them to work with JDK 1.2 will not be (too)
difficult.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Will the linux JDK 1.2 port have a JIT supplied with it, or will we
> have to use a program like Kaffe ?
>
I think it would be a terrific idea for the Blackdown web page to have
a note explaining the progress of JDK 1.2 (as in "don't ask"). If I get
one more message on this list about JDK 1.2 I'm going to explode!
mdw
Chris Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There used to be a note that jdk1.2
ady have a strong tutorial program put together, as
well as several good invited speakers (including Eric Raymond and other
well-known Linux developers). All of the details are at:
http://conferences.oreilly.com
You can e-mail me if you have any questions or need other details.
Thanks m
Well,
I haven't received any mail from anyone concerning this yet so I imagine
you all must be downloading it to try ?
Does the original message look like a good possiblity that it may work
on Linux ?
Any responces ?
Matt
> Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:36:55 -0500
> Date:
?
I am running glibc2.0.7 due to staroffice5.0 and Oracle8.0.5 but
my knowedge of libs is not that great linking them etc it may fail
but then again it just might work has anyone tried this version of
jdk2.0 yet ?
Any ideas ?
Many thanks
Matt
ie..
/usr/local/jdk1.2/SUNWjvdev/reloc/usr/java1.2
orm the porting team, so that the team can
speed up the offical beta release and with luck stop all
these crazy emails.
Matt
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:22:06 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: "Kevin B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: JDK 1.2 TimeTa
O'Reilly has a number of good books on things like Java and distributed
computing, the Java Virtual Machine, Java Security, and other low-level
gritty topics. Not all of these topics are adequately covered in a
single book.
mdw
Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hi:
>
> Can someo
Do you know where I can download the port of the Java Plug-in for Linux?
Thanks
Matt
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Is it fairly easy st set up a mailing list then ?
How does one do it in linux - for general use ?
Matt
> Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:00:55 -0500
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:10:45 +0800 (WST)
> From: John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >
> > I'
> libhwrld.so: HelloWorld.C HelloWorld.h
> g++ $(CXXFLAGS) $< -o $@
This isn't the right way to generate a .so file.
You need to use the -shared switch on gcc (I presume this is also
supported by g++, but you can use gcc to transform a g++-generated
.o file into a .so).
Still make the source code available so that the tool can be used/updated.
I like many others would hate
To see such a good tool lost in time.
Many thanks
Matt
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To: INTERNET:[EMAIL
as a starting block ?
Many thanks
Matt
?
Also before someone asks about whats this to do with
Java, how are you getting on with Java under linux
on SuSE and lib6 (glib) or have I got my libs in a twist ?
Is lib6 = glib ?
Many thanks
Matt
> Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:01:50 -0500
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:15:39 +010
Kontorotsui,
Was your SuSE version glib, or lib6, or lib5 ?
Many thanks
Matt
(Attempting to get to grips with SuSE too).
> Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 05:29:02 -0500
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:04:39 +0100 (MET)
> From: Kontorotsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> The following
Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Found a link to this article on JavaLobby:
>
> http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit19981203.html
>
> Could turn out bad. Very bad.
Unless it turns out that the patent is ill-founded because Java
represents "prior art" in terms of the technolog
anyone know of a case where a
license restricting benchmark-results publication was successfully enforced
in court? Or shot down in court?
Matt Welsh
Hi,
Is it possible to remove the Save, Send page, Send and View Page Source
options from a browser when viewing a page so that the page is totaly
secure ?
Many thanks
Matt
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