>> IMHO, the ideal situation would be for Sun to support Linux as one of its
>> primary platforms. I don't understand why Sun does not. It would help Unix
>and
>> hurt NT (After all, the enemy of my enemy etc.).
>
>Is Linux not as much of a thread to Solaris?
If done properly Linux can be levera
>Win32 is the desktop OS. M$ was threatening the success of Java with J++
and
>their Java-clone (COOL IIRC). Java without Win32 is a no-go. Linux is not
that
>important _yet_.
We are migrating from NT to Linux.
And evrything is going right. It's not a fast step. First We had to test the
OS itself
SHUDO Kazuyuki wrote:
> Michael Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > By splitting the JVM from the class libraries via a portable interface we gain
>a lot !
> > I think if development was split between multiple JVM's and a open robust class
>library
> > we could get competative support f
Michael Emmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By splitting the JVM from the class libraries via a portable interface we gain a
>lot !
> I think if development was split between multiple JVM's and a open robust class
>library
> we could get competative support from comercial and Open Source v
On 1999-08-17 11:40:42 -0700, Riyad Kalla wrote:
> I don't see it being in Sun's interest at all to support Linux. They are shooting,
> obviously, for the biggest market. I always found it interesting that they had a full
> complete JDK for Win32 LONG before they had a final version available for
U.. I don't envy your testing job! That sounds like a nightmare
come true.
Being closer to Java then most of us on this list, do you see Sun
planning another "Java 2" jump any time soon? Or does it seem they are
going to stick with 1.2 for a while and really clean it up?
Just curious if
> Mike Christiansen writes:
Mike> I too am very concerned with this issue and don't know what
Mike> to say. My hat goes off for Blackdown. But even if the
Mike> Blackdown effort produced a working, native thread VM
The problems with the native threads vm are closely related to
pr
> Riyad Kalla writes:
Riyad> I was discussing exactly this with the creators of AnyJ the
Riyad> other day. I was curious as to how much porting it takes to
Riyad> port such a large project from Win32 to Solaris and Linux,
Riyad> and the mentioned that Linux is the hardest sime
This is a good point, however I think they create lrun to not LOOSE market to Linux,
not
to support it. Realistically, why would such a huge corporation support Linux without
gain?
Personall I see it to their disadvantage to support Java fully on linux. Like another
gentlement on this newgroup b
Jacob Nikom wrote:
> I have feeling that for Sun Java is more important than Solaris.
> IMHO they are targeting quickly growing embedded market to sell
> more of their hardware. This market is good place for Java and
> Linux, not Solaris.
>
> A lot of embedded and "real-time" software developers
> IMHO, the ideal situation would be for Sun to support Linux as one of its
> primary platforms. I don't understand why Sun does not. It would help Unix
and
> hurt NT (After all, the enemy of my enemy etc.).
Is Linux not as much of a thread to Solaris?
Jon.
---
I understand your point of view - but at the same time Sun has provided support to port
linux to their ultra series machines and with their release of lrun (a tool to allow
linux programs binary compatibility under Solaris 7) it seems they wan't to support
Linux. You also have to look at the fac
I have feeling that for Sun Java is more important than Solaris.
IMHO they are targeting quickly growing embedded market to sell
more of their hardware. This market is good place for Java and
Linux, not Solaris.
A lot of embedded and "real-time" software developers are looking
into Linux+Java co
I was discussing exactly this with the creators of AnyJ the other day. I was curious
as to
how much porting it takes to port such a large project from Win32 to Solaris and Linux,
and the mentioned that Linux is the hardest simeply because of all the hodge-podge
involved and how every WM handles i
Riyad Kalla wrote:
> These are good points.. and I think the reason Sun doesn't support Linux so readily
> is simply because it would be shooting its self right in the Solaris-Foot. If it
> provides a high performance, solaris quality Java implementation... they may loose
> a bit of business. I d
Mike Christiansen wrote:
> Riyad Kalla wrote:
>
> > These are good points.. and I think the reason Sun doesn't support Linux so readily
> > is simply because it would be shooting its self right in the Solaris-Foot. If it
> > provides a high performance, solaris quality Java implementation... they
Riyad Kalla wrote:
> These are good points.. and I think the reason Sun doesn't support Linux so readily
> is simply because it would be shooting its self right in the Solaris-Foot. If it
> provides a high performance, solaris quality Java implementation... they may loose
> a bit of business. I d
These are good points.. and I think the reason Sun doesn't support Linux so readily
is simply because it would be shooting its self right in the Solaris-Foot. If it
provides a high performance, solaris quality Java implementation... they may loose
a bit of business. I don't know details of course
I too am very concerned with this issue and don't know what to say. My hat goes
off for Blackdown. But even if the Blackdown effort produced a working, native
thread VM tomorrow, would it support a JIT, much less HotSpot? Performance is
really bad and pure Java tools like NetBeans and TogetherJ do
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>
> Riyad Kalla wrote:
> >
> > In regards to current Blackdown port of Java. Its not a
> > secret that its a hard task, that I understand, but it has
> > also been many many long months that this process has
>
>
> Interesting questions that you raise. I for one have been
> very happy with th
Riyad Kalla wrote:
>
> In regards to current Blackdown port of Java. Its not a
> secret that its a hard task, that I understand, but it has
> also been many many long months that this process has
Interesting questions that you raise. I for one have been
very happy with the work of the Blackdow
In regards to current Blackdown port of Java. Its not a
secret that its a hard task, that I understand, but it has
also been many many long months that this process has
expanded over, and many more long months to go it looks
like. Now with companies like IBM putting out their
seemingly superior ja
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