Re: [JAWS-Users] New List Inquiry

[David Moore]

Hi Justin!
Just send an email to:
jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io
You will get a conformation, and just reply to that, and you will get a 
moderator’s message.
After that, just send your messages to:
jaws-users-l...@groups.io.
Groups.io,
Is a much better and more accessible platform. Most of the other lists I am 
subscribed to, are on Groups.io
As well.
I had no trouble.
See you there, Justin!
Have a great one!
David Moore


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From: Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New List Inquiry

What is the address for the new list?  I haven't had any problems with this
list and receiving messages or sending them.   Do I need to do something?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New List Inquiry

You'll have to subscribe and then send messages to the new address.

-Original Message-
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New List Inquiry

Afternoon all.

Using JAWS 2018, Windows 10 and WLM, I was wondering if, with the new email
list, will I need to do anything in order to send messages to the new list,
or will they be automatically sent there. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[David Moore]

Hi all!
I just subscribed to the new list with out a hitch.
Groups.io will make it so much better!
See you on the new list!
David Moore
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From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Armed wrestled my wife, FYI she let me win. All kidding aside the plan is to 
shutdown this list on Monday. I figure that should be enough time for those 
who want to move over to get it done. You always lose some people but you 
gain others so it works out in the long run I imagine. Besides after all of 
this typing and among other reasons my fingers are thinner here lately.

-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Did you do finger exercises with little bar bells?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

I've been in training for this weekend.

-Original Message- 
From: andy t
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hello David, I did mine last night and I opened the link and pressed alt s
and didn't put anything even in the subject line and just replied to the
email I
received and was on the new list in less than 15 minutes.
I will bet your fingers were tired last night.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

I might be wrong but I don't believe it is important to put subscribe in the
subject field.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hi Jerry,

In case you haven't received the subscribe link as of yet, here it is:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

Click on the above link, put, subscribe, in the subject field and send.
Reply to the confirmation email, and you're set.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS
for Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No
purpose is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main
The topics forum/archive can be viewed online by anyone at
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


   - Post: m...@jfw.groups.io
   - Subscribe: main+subscr...@jfw.groups.io
   - Unsubscribe: main+unsubscr...@jfw.groups.io
   - Group Owner: main+ow...@jfw.groups.io
   - Help: main+h...@jfw.groups.io


If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
joining the group for just that demographic:

Group main page:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

Topics Forum/Archive:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topics


   - Post: wi...@win10.groups.io
   - Subscribe: win10+subscr...@win10.groups.io
   - Unsubscribe: win10+unsubscr...@win10.groups.io
   - Group Owner: win10+ow...@win10.groups.io
   - Help: win10+h...@win10.groups.io


Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that go

Re: [JAWS-Users] using Microsoft Edge with jaws

[David Moore]

Thanks a lot Kevin!
Any tutorial that any of you have of mine can be put on the list for all!
David Moore



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From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using Microsoft Edge with jaws

This is a tutorial on using Edge with jaws, originally it was written by David 
More on how to use Edge with NVDA and Narrator.  I just modified it to include 
usage with jaws.  I tested it and it works according to the tutorial!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aps5BdFqVPrc5g9Wd7OMddZwC5MD

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

[David Moore]

Hi all!
It is definitely fine to put my Edge text tutorial on the site.
Any tutorial I do can go on the site for all of you!
Have a great day!
David Moore



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From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi all,
I did not receive any zip file of the edge tutorial. Am I missing something?
Greetings from Athens,
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Sure I’d like something I did on the help list, but I’m pretty sure the zip 
that I did is the one that includes the whole tutorial.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws

Hi Kevin,

I don't know if you read the owners message, but Mr. Ferrin would like to 
put your / David's tutorial up on the Jaws-Users website, but he needs your 
permission to do so.  Can he put it up on the servor?  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lee
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:30 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] using Edge with jaws


This is a tutorial originally written by David More on how to use Edge with 
NVDA and Narrator, I just modified it to include usage with jaws.  I tested 
it and it works according to the tutorial.  This is a second post of it 
because I didn’t do it correctly the first time!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aps5BdFqVPrc5g9Wd7OMddZwC5MD

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[David Moore]

IE is not retired yet, I only use it with one web site:
m.facebook.com
I am trying to get used to using the mobile Facebook site on Chrome and Edge, 
and it is Okay, but I still like the interface of the site with IE.
I don’t know how long IE will whimper along LOL!
David Moore



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From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Has Microsoft retired IE?  I just tried to access the internet with IE and it’s 
pretty unusable, I get can’t reach this page
But when I use Edge all is fine!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Crome help

[David Moore]

Hi Holger!
I have the same problem in Chrome where the player just starts playing the 
content and does not give me a choice to download.
I do that in Edge. I hope for an answer for this likewise.
I use Chrome for everything else, but I have to change my default browser to 
Edge, so I can enter on the link to download, get the choice to do either.
I can’t wait to see if anyone out there, can answer this one for us LOL!
Take care, Holger!
David Moore

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Windows 10

From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Crome help

Need help. Using W10 and jaws 2018. When I tried to download a podcast from 
applevisusing crome, the podcast starts to play. In IE 11, when I enter on the 
link it gave the me the choice to download or play. How do I set it to download 
instead of playing it. 

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

[David Moore]

Hi all!
The new window just opens your website in another window.
The incognito window, means that you are in a private browsing window.
It is the same as private browsing. Chrome just gives it another name.
Have a great one!
David Moore
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From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

Thanks. What about New incognito Window and new window? What do they do?

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

Hi all.
Here is my tutorial on using the Chrome browser pasted right below this 
line.
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both 
work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:
Launching Chrome:
One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and 
type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say 
Chrome.
However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut 
icon on your desktop.
So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to 
open Chrome.
The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google 
Chrome icon on your desktop.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
undesirable results.

Section Two:
Bringing up a web site.
Press CTRL+L or Alt+D
and type the following:
www.freedomscientific.com
The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.
All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo 
box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:
The Virticle Chrome menu:
I will press the Alt key.
The Chrome menu is open.
This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down 
arrow through.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming 
here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with 
Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to 
see. I do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can 
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and 
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to 
your computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, 
and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their 
corresponding folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices 
I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this 
happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved 
bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.
To save a web site as a bookmark,
Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.
I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!
I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we 
entered by just pressing alt.
The next few are very self explanatory.
The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
I will press right arrow on this.
I

Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] checking facebook messages

[David Moore]

Hi!
I use mobile Facebook:
m.facebook.com
and I use IE 11.
It is by far easier to navigate the mobile Facebook site in IE.
Just press R to get to the list of links of profile, messages, notifications, 
and so on.
Just press enter on the messages link.
That is what is so nice with the Mobile Facebook site in IE!
Everything is just web page elements that you can use your H for heading and so 
on.
Let me know if I can be more of help!

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From: sandy
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:49 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] checking facebook messages

I’m on the newer side of jaws, and more on facebook, and need to know how to 
check my messages after I create a facebook account. jaws17, google chrome
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Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

[David Moore]

Hi!
An MMS message, is when you text a photo or other file to someone and not just 
text!
David Moore



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From: John Fitzgerald
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

What is an mms message?

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma 
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer

and if you want to send an mms message the virzon address is:

##@vzwpix.com



Legend has it that on Tuesday 6/12/2018 09:11 AM, David Ferrin said:

>Since I am on Verizon any email sent to the address 10 digit 
>num...@vtext.com would land in my inbox and it is possible to reply 
>to the message.
>
>-Original Message- From: Mike B.
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 11:53 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>Hi Orlando,
>
>Personally I'm running Windows 7 & 10 with Jaws 16 thru J2018, had to make
>this a Jaws thing, & Outlook Express.  When I send out text messages from my
>computers I receive them back as replies to my Outlook Express In-box.  I
>use a different email address for my iPhone than I do for my computers, but
>I can access my iPhone emails from an identity / separate account I have set
>up on all my computers.  I know a lot of people that don't receive voice
>mail, texts, & emails because of whatever cellular or internet hiccups, so
>there's no way that I will risk not receiving something important because
>all my messaging is controlled by someone elses server / the cloud.
>Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>Sent from my iBarstool.
>- Original Message - From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] texting from computer
>
>
>Hi all. I realize this is somewhat off topic to Jaws.
>Until Sprint stopped its Google Voice integration, I had all text
>messages forwarded to my Gmail account and could reply to them as I
>would any other email. For those of you who use carrier domain
>addresses to email texts, how do you retrieve texted responses via
>email? Do you email text messages and then retrieve replies on your phones?
>
>Orlando Enrique Fiol
>Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
>University of Pennsylvania
>Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
>and Pedagogue
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] mail app

[David Moore]

You know!
I reset my laptops, and when I set my accounts in the mail app again, I noticed 
the same thing. I could not access the signature either. That is really weird. 
Thanks for telling us, I will get on the Feed Back app and tell MS about that.
Have a great one!
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] mail app

I have another problem.
Whenever I try to add my signature, I find nowhere to type anything other than 
several buttons such as format button, bold button etc!
I contacted with the disability answer desk and they have no remedy other than 
I copied whatever text I wanted to their chat and they have typed it via remote 
access!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 
+92-334-3348409
 

From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 7:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] mail app

Using jaws 2018.1805.33 ILM
With the current build of windows 10 18 03 spring creators update
Anyone still having problems with the mail app.
Sometimes jaws will only read the subject of my messages and not the body.  
Sometimes when composing an email I can type a message but when I alt+tab to 
check what I’ve written it disappears.
The mail app is very sluggish when I press enter on a message it opens, two 
minutes later jaws announces message body the number of links available then 
the text of the message.
Sometimes the mail app won’t even open.
All of this usually can be resolved by a full computer restart, but it all 
happens again!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading pdf's in Edge?

[David Moore]

I am not sure!
You could make sure that the virtual PC cursor is on, and try pressing F7 to 
use carrot browsing!
David Moore
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From: Star Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading pdf's in Edge?

Thank you Dave. 
Edge opened the PDF via default, I was just not able to read the text. I
should have been more clear. 
Any tips on getting Edge to read the text?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
David Moore
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading pdf's in Edge?

Hi!
On the PDF, press the applications key or Shift+F10. Arrow down to open with
sub menu and press right arrow. Arrow down to Edge, and press enter.
Your PDF, even a scanned image will open in Edge, and after a minute or so,
you will be able to read it just like a word document. I use Edge to read
all of my PDFs now.
David Moore
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From: Star Gazer
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 8:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading pdf's in Edge?

How do I do this folks? 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading pdf's in Edge?

[David Moore]

Hi!
On the PDF, press the applications key or Shift+F10. Arrow down to open with 
sub menu and press right arrow. Arrow down to Edge, and press enter.
Your PDF, even a scanned image will open in Edge, and after a minute or so, you 
will be able to read it just like a word document. I use Edge to read all of my 
PDFs now.
David Moore
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From: Star Gazer
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 8:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading pdf's in Edge?

How do I do this folks? 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

[David Moore]

I would use Narrator instead.
David Moore
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From: T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

OK! I have the JAWS 16.0.4474   in my download folder. I assume it would not 
be a good idea to have Jaws 18 running when I install 16?  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 
ispresent

Hi!
JAWS 16.4350
Will work, earlier than that, a different driver is used.
David Moore
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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 
ispresent

Because of the shared files, I'd be nervous about installing an earlier 
version than the one on your system. Also, FS/VFO made a substantial change 
to JAWS that I believe began with version 17. If I were you, I'd ask VFO 
tech support.

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T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:17 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is 
present

Are there any problems in installing Jaws version 16 if Jaws 2018 is already 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

[David Moore]

Hi!
JAWS 16.4350
Will work, earlier than that, a different driver is used.
David Moore
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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

Because of the shared files, I'd be nervous about installing an earlier version 
than the one on your system. Also, FS/VFO made a substantial change to JAWS 
that I believe began with version 17. If I were you, I'd ask VFO tech support. 

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Civitello
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:17 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is present

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[David Moore]

I use Just read add on.
It works very well and consistently!
I use it in Chrome.
David Moore
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From: Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

You can also download an add-on. I have one instaled called Just Read that can 
be toggled with the control plus shift plus L command. You can do some other 
stuff with it, but I only bother with reader mode. 
This is for Chrome as well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Brian Lee
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hello Adrian,

You might want to try pressing Alt V followed by R.  This should turn on and 
off the reader view.  I have a CTRL Alt R shortcut key assigned to a Remote 
Incident Manager program and so when in Firefox I just use the view menu.  

For anyone interested in getting reader view to work in Chrome, it works quite 
well but needs some setting up.  Here are some steps to follow for anyone 
wanting to use the reader view feature in Chrome:

1.  Locate your shortcut for opening Chrome, whether it's on your taskbar, 
desktop or within the Start menu. Right-click it or use the application key and 
open Properties from the contextual menu.
2.  Tab until focus is in the Target edit box.   the file path for the 
Chrome application is shown in this field.  
3.  Add a space after the path text and then the following:
--enable-dom-distiller
4.  Tab to the Apply button and use spacebar or click Apply with the mouse.
5.  Close down all instances of Chrome. Icons in the system tray such as 
Hangouts or Google Now will need to be closed.
6.  Test out the Distill mode by opening Chrome from the shortcut you 
edited.  Go to a page containing an article.  Use the Alt key and up or down 
arrow to the “Distill page” menu item and press enter key.  If using the mouse 
click the icon with three lines in the top right-hand corner and choose Distill 
page.

To go out of Distill mode you can use Alt with left arrow key.  This will load 
the page again in the usual manner.

Take care.


  

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: April 11, 2018 2:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Thanks. I followed your suggestion, but reader view is still not working for 
me. control-alt-r does cause JAWS to pause, after which it sometimes resumes 
reading, sometimes not. But when it resumes, it reads the ads, etc. I hate to 
clutter the list with this problem. 

Thanks also to Mike B for the notes on the reader view extension.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Even after invoking reader mode, you still have to navigate to the actual 
article. Heading, next block of text that isn't a link, etc. You're not going 
to be placed at the start of the article or whatever it is you're trying to 
read.
I just finished reading an article in the New York Times in reader mode and 
it's working fine for me.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Jim, I also have a subscription to the New York times. Like you, I press 
alt-control-r. Then I press the JAWS command for "say all." Nothing happens. 
Any hints?

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

I have no problem using reader to read New York Times, Washington Post and 
Financial Times articles.  Maybe that's because I maintain a subscription to 
each of them.  All 3 have varieties of pay walls.

By the way , I access reader with alt/control/r.  Alt/control/f does not 
activate for me.  As I recall, the short cut key alt/control/r is listed next 
to the reader view option in the Firefox top line menu.

On 4/11/2018 1:28 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you. I use it all the time when reading articles in 
> the New York Times.
> Control plus alt plus R is probably my most used Firefox command. I use 
> flexible web a lot less because of this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:25 

Re: [JAWS-Users] User Account Control Settings, Setting it to Zero

[David Moore]

Hi all!
Two years ago, I set my UAC to 0 and never looked back. I love not having that 
thing always getting in the way. 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] User Account Control Settings, Setting it to Zero

Hi Humberto,

I don't need it to protect me, & there's a Speak Dropbox program I want to 
install, but even when i use the, Alt + y, keystroke to say yes, it won't 
let me install.  Windows Defender  also won't let me allow or restore it 
from quarantine, is 1 example of how I don't need big brother over seeing 
what I do.  Thanks much for your input.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Humberto Rodriguez
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] User Account Control Settings, Setting it to Zero


Hello Mike:

UAC is your friend and protector; I simply press Alt-Y to answer yes when I
want to allow something, it isn't hard to do and prevents a trojan from
sneaking by.
Humberto


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:19 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] User Account Control Settings, Setting it to Zero

Hi All,

Running Windows 10 Pro latest with Jaws 16 thru J2018 latest.  I don't like
UAC interfering when I want to run / install a program, at all!  But, when I

try to set it to, 0, then I okay it, I can't get out of the dialog!  I've
tried changing the setting with the Touch Cursor as well as using left mouse

clicks, & still can't get that damn setting changed!  LOL

Can anyone give me some tips on how to change it to ZERO!?  All help will be

greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

[David Moore]

Hi Brian!
I will check out that program. My WIFI seems a little slow, and I have done all 
of the trouble shooting and so on!
Have a great one, Brian.
Great to see you on here. I will be in touch!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Hi, Adrian, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio.  I've been quite successful
with update issue resolution as well as solving other internet issues by
downloading a program called complete internet repair and it's quite
accessible with jaws.  It's certainly worth checking out.  Let me know if I
can be of further assistance.  I'm also using windows 7 right now.  I'll
eventually be upgrading to windows ten but will probably end up getting a
new laptop as my experience at work with windows ten has shown me that
there's far less problems with the caviat that I'm having to use a
proprietary version of windows ten developed for the Department of Defense.
I've just found that there isn't enough attention paid to sound and video
drivers when the department of defense just upgrades machines from windows 7
to windows ten.  That's my $0.02 worth, grin!  My windows 7 lapotp here is
an HP Zbook z17 which is a business laptop but I'm far more able to do
driver updates successfully with Dell as once you have your dell service tag
you can then just go to support.dell.com and put in your service tag and the
operating system you're using and get any drivers you need.  The HP support
application s somewhat useable but not nearly as user friendly as Dell.
Take care and let me know if I can assist further.  bZ!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

The first time Windows update failed to install, I had to hire someone who
knew what he was doing to manually install the update. I'd first contacted
MS Accessibility. After an hour, they gave up and escalated. However, I
didn't get any follow-up until this past Sunday, more than a month later. By
then, the initial failure had been resolved. However, it's just happened
again. I haven't decided what to do. In the past, MS Accessibility was going
to solve another problem by reinstalling windows, which seemed to me much to
dramatic. In that case, too, I turned instead to an expert who made the fix
without trauma to my system, although some to my bank account. 

I wish I had more confidence in MS Accessibility. For certain relatively
minor things, I'm guessing they're fine, but for anything complex, you
really need to monitor what they're up to. In addition, letting a month
elapse before acting on an escalated matter, especially when security is
involved, was unconscionable. 

The short answer is that I have no idea how to solve this recurring Windows
update failure by myself. If someone on this list does, we'd owe them a free
subscription!!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Me too!  How have you resolved this issue?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

I don't know if it's related, but I'm now routinely having trouble
installing Windows updates on my Win7 machine.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

I did call them, and we have no resolution just yet.  They are saying the
issue is due to Windows updates not being installed.  I'm investigating this
now, but wanted to reach out to the list to see if anyone had other ideas.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Mike, I take it you mean you're trying to install this JAWS file. If you're
able to call VFO tech support, I'm guessing it would be your best bet. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Re: [JAWS-Users] Baseball season is here

[David Moore]

Hi Marie and all!
I use
www.freebaseballradio.com
To listen to all baseball games.
You just enter on the team, then a list of radio stations come up for that 
team. Try every station by entering on it until you find one that plays the 
game.
You can look up the other team in the game, and find the game on a radio 
station for the other team.
It is the same with football:
www.freefootballradio.com
Basketball:
www.freebasketballradio.com
and so on.
I always find a radio station on these web sites to listen to a game on. 
Sometimes, you might have to try entering on five or more stations before you 
find one that plays the game, but I have never missed a game. If it is on the 
radio, you will find a station playing the game on these web sites.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Baseball season is here

If anyone knows how to access the games on the mlb.com site, please pass 
on the info.  Thanks.


-- 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[David Moore]

Hello all!
I wanted you to know that the latest JAWS update for 2018, makes JAWS work 
better in Chrome than ever before.
JAWS works great with combo boxes on Chrome now.
David Moore
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From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE 
support.

Andy

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[David Moore]

Hello all!
I installed the new JAWS 2018 update on both of my laptops, and many issues in 
windows 10 are fixed.
The mail app is almost working perfectly.
I get no repeats of words, and the new message I bring up reads right away. 
JAWS works great now, in the One note app. Also, in Edge, JAWS can now list the 
form fields, headings, and links. That helps a lot with Edge. You still cannot 
select text with the virtual PC cursor in Edge.
JAWS 2018, with this update, works very well in the Windows Defender security 
center window. It is very snappy and it reads the information concerning the 
scan. I have noticed that action center works much better with JAWS as well, 
with this update.
If you have any questions, please ask.
Yes, I almost forgot.
JAWS now works the best in Google Docs in Google Chrome browser. You do not 
need to use Firefox anymore to use Google Docs, sheets, and so on.
Google Drive and docs are very snappy with this new update.
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mitch 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Hello Inamuddin,  I was hopeful that the latest 2018 update would solve the 
Windows Mail troubles as well but was disappointed in the results as noted by 
you and others.
With little to lose, I did a repair on this new version earlier today.  The 
repair took about 4 times longer than the initial successful install but since 
doing this, the Windows 10 Mail program is almost working properly.  On 
occasion I have to unload and reload both JAWS and Windows Mail and, for some 
reason, that seems to restore proper behavior on this Dell Desktop of recent 
manufacture.
I would be interested if others with Windows 10 Mail issues find a repair of 
the latest update results in improvement.  Thanks, Mitch

If a married man is alone in the woods and no one hears him,   is he still 
wrong?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

Yes they have tried to fix it and it is working better than the last JAWS 
update but Windows 10 mail app is still not working as normal as in JAWS 18.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
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outlook:
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yahoo:
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Add my Skype ID:
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Meet me on facebook:
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Follow me on my twitter ID:
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Call me on my cell numbers:
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From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What'sNew

Brilliant!  Now my windows 10 email app is working properly again.

Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Below are the direct download links for the February Jaws update,
J2018.1802.78, + what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:
Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1802.78 (February 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
December 2017 update and the February 2018 update.

To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.

JAWS
list of 12 items
When you open an inaccessible PDF file in Adobe Reader which normally just
reports: "Empty Document", JAWS now displays a dialog box asking if you want
to perform OCR directly on the file. Choose Yes to have JAWS recognize the
image and display the text in the Results Viewer or choose No to close the
dialog
box without performing OCR. This is the same as using the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to OCR a document. We are now proactively offering
this
for all JAWS and Fusion users when we recognize that scanned PDF files have
been opened in Acrobat Reader.
When you press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by QUESTION MARK for help with
layered commands, the list of keystrokes is now displayed in the Results
Viewer
to make them easier to review.
You can now press Right Shift+DOTS 1-2-3-7 from a Focus braille display to
toggle the JAWS Screen Shade feature.
The commands to read the next or previous word (CTRL+RIGHT ARROW and
CTRL+LEFT ARROW) will now continue to speak when Speech On Demand is active.
Note
that due to the way keystrokes are handled in Microsoft Office applications,
these commands will continue to rem

Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

[David Moore]

Hi all.
Here is my tutorial on using the Chrome browser pasted right below this line.
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both 
work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:
Launching Chrome:
One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type 
Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.
However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut 
icon on your desktop.
So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open 
Chrome.
The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google 
Chrome icon on your desktop.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
undesirable results.

Section Two:
Bringing up a web site.
Press CTRL+L or Alt+D
and type the following:
www.freedomscientific.com
The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.
All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, 
and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:
The Virticle Chrome menu:
I will press the Alt key.
The Chrome menu is open.
This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down 
arrow through.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I 
do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, 
to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a 
page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your 
computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and 
Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding 
folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I 
mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, 
I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, 
and enter on the desired one.
To save a web site as a bookmark,
Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.
I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!
I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered 
by just pressing alt.
The next few are very self explanatory.
The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
I will press right arrow on this.
I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.
Next, Save to desktop.
This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is 
how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.
It is hidden under this more tools submenu.
Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.
Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.
These are the same as add ons, in IE.
I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to 
the virticle Chrome menu.
The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.
If you press the left arrow

Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google ChromeBrowser]

[David Moore]

You will love Chrome!
It is so fast, and the interface is so simple,


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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google ChromeBrowser]

Thank you, this will be most helpful for me.  I have Chrome but never use
it. 


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Behalf Of cheez
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome [Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome
Browser]

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both
work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and
type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say
Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut
icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to
open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google
Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get
undesirable results.

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo
box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press the Alt key.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down
arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming
here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with
Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to
see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to
your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE,
and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their
corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices
I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks.
If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these
choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved
bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we
entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

[David Moore]

Hi Andy!
If I remember correctly, they are for iTunes 12.1, or close to that.
When he did these tutorials, you could still simply press CTRL+9 to listen to 
thousands of radio stations. That is gone in iTunes 12.7. It probably has 
changed, since he did them. You cannot use iTunes 12.7 to download media to 
your iPhone anymore either, I believe. I am not sure how good the tutorials 
would be except to introduce people to iTunes, and to set it up.
David Moore
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From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

How out of date? It seems like iTunes makes changes with each new version.
- Original Message - 
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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes


> Hi,
> I use iTunes with JAWS, and it is accessible to the point where you can 
> definitely use it to create your music library, and it is not too bad in 
> the store and buying music.
> Jim Flusche, did three Audio Tutorials that I have. They are a little out 
> of date, but I will ask jim if I can share them on this list as a One 
> Drive link.
> I will let you know if it is alright with Jim.
> Take care, all!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Dennis
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:21 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes
>
> Hi, how accessible is Jaws and I tunes?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype and Jaws 2018

[David Moore]

Hi,
I am doing everything that you can do with Skype and JAWS by using the Skype 
Win10 app. You can tab to the dial pad, press enter, and type in the number, 
for example. I am making a lot of skype calls, and answering them. JAWS is a 
little sluggish in the Skype app, but I use it. You just have to be a little 
patient, and tab more than in a traditional desktop program. There are key 
commands for skype app as well.
David Moore
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From: Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Skype and Jaws 2018

Hello list,

Was wondering if anyone’s been using the latest Skype (be it the desktop or
Windows 10 app) with a telephone number and whether they’ve been able to
perform basic functions with Jaws? I know the Skype topic has come up
recently in the past and how there are some accessibility challenges with
it. But it looks like there’s a nasty Skype for desktop exploit out there
and since I don’t use the chat features, but rather just the phone aspect,
thus my inquiry.

I saw that Brian Hartgen commented on Twitter that he’s been using the
Windows 10 app and is pleased with it. I know Brian’s probably considered an
advanced power user, so maybe he knows how to work around stuff maybe more
than the “average” computer user. 

Microsoft accessibility has acknowledged the accessibility difficulties with
the latest Skype updates, but as of yet, nothing’s been done about it. 

IN any event, I’m still on Skype for desktop 7.4 and using the latest Jaws
2018. Again, I’m mainly interested in the telephone aspect of the program
and if it’s still workable with Jaws. Be it the dedicated desktop app or the
universal Windows 10 app.

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

[David Moore]

Hi,
I use iTunes with JAWS, and it is accessible to the point where you can 
definitely use it to create your music library, and it is not too bad in the 
store and buying music.
Jim Flusche, did three Audio Tutorials that I have. They are a little out of 
date, but I will ask jim if I can share them on this list as a One Drive link.
I will let you know if it is alright with Jim.
Take care, all!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

Hi, how accessible is Jaws and I tunes?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Touch cursors

[David Moore]

There are archived Webinars on the freedom Scientific Web site, that go over 
using the touch cursor in JAWS to use Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, and it just 
allows you to press the arrow keys to simulate a flick or swipe in the 
direction of the arrow key. You do not need a touch screen for the touch cursor 
to work in JAWS. You need JAWS 16, I believe, or maybe 15, to have the touch 
cursor built into JAWS.
You can use the touch cursor in apps, just like using a phone. For example, you 
can use the touch cursor to flick through the Windows 10 news universal app.
David Moore
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From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Touch cursors

Hey.

Yes, there is. Some of the new Windows app require the use of the touch
cursor to read or even activate things on the screen. It's an annoyance but
something everyone just has to get used to or live with. You should read
about it in your JAWS help files.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: February 10, 2018 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Touch cursors

Hello all-

 

My computers are old and do not have touch screens. I keep hearing about the
touch cursor. Is ther any use for them for machines that do not have a touch
screen?  Is there a link where I can learn more about using them with JAWS
and which versions work with them?

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[David Moore]

Thank you so much for these games!
I have been looking for more self-voicing games where you can play alone 
instead of on line. I will really enjoy this entire web site you gave. Jim, 
sounds like he was a great person. I will find out more about him!
David Moore
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From: Gerald Levy 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games


The late Jim Kitchen developed a series of free, self-voicing completely 
accessible games for the blind that includes a suite of casino games like 
Blackjack, Slot Machine, Craps, Roulette  and Draw Poker.  You can download 
the entire suite of games here:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 11:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

But are they self voicing or accessible for the blind?

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally written
for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.

Andy

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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games


> Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a
> memory stick.
> I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but
> this person doesn’t program gambling type games.
> It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!
>
> E-mail is golden!!!
> Kevin Lee
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[David Moore]

I do the same.
The caps lock really helps when you  need to press a command like:
Insert+Windows key+C to append text to the  clip board.
Pressing the caps lock+Windows key+C is so much easier.
David Moore
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From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I use the laptop layout all the time regardless of whether I'm using a full
desktop keyboard or not. Having the caps lock act as a jaws modifier is
always nice.

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Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 2:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I have never grown accustomed to the laptop keyboard, probably never will,
bought a laptop and then a separate keyboard because I was so unproductive
with the laptop keyboard, maybe it is that I have used Jaws for 20 years and
started on the desktop, I don't know and the previous programs I used the
number pad, but switching just has never worked for me. 
Oh, well, hope I never have to send a dmp file to you.  


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Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Great question about how to reach the keys...
I'll tell you the two ways I do it.

1. I have a desktop keyboard. The first way is to move my right hand to the
NumPad and press and hold the Zero/Insert Key with my thumb.
2. Then with my left thumb on the Windows Key, rather than the ALT Key, I
reach up with left index finger to find the F4 Key and press.

The second option.
Since I always run JAWS with Laptop Layout (even when on a desktop
keyboard), I can press the CapsLock and WinKey with the left hand, and use
my right hand to locate and press the F4 Key.

HTH.


Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com


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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Very good. Thanks again.
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

OK, now tell me how I am to reach all these keys at once on a keyboard with
one left Windows key?  I have not had the freezing problem but I don't have
large hands, using standard desktop layout.  I will probably never need it,
I hope but for heaven sakes how does one manage such reaches.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello list,

The dump command (JAWSKey+WindowsKey+F4) will restart JAWS automatically
while it creates a dump file to show what was happening at the time of the
loss of speech. It would be potentially very helpful to contact the Support
department and offer the Dump File with an explanation of what you were
doing when it the loss of speech occurred and how often you are seeing this.

These issues are difficult to track down as they happen randomly and most
certainly have something to do with JAWS interacting with UIA from Windows.
We are making progress on this every day and appreciate your continued
feedback and support in tracking these down.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I think this is the "JAWS dump" keystroke referred to in the original post.
I did not think this keystroke automatically restarted JAWS? I'd better give
it a try. Usually I just kill JAWS with task manager, or nowadays, process
explorer, since task manager got ridiculously slow and basically unusable
lately.



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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: January 29, 2018 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but when I experience
freezing for a few seconds, I press JAWS key+Windows key+F4. This command
almost always restarts JAWS within another few seconds. I believe it helps
to first 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop & Windows 10

[David Moore]

Hi!
This does work in the win10 fall creators.
I have my computers set up this way.
David Moore
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From: net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 1:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Desktop & Windows 10

if you mean disableing the log on screen try this.
i don't know if this will work with the win 10 fall version.

open the run dialog and type in netplwiz.
this will open the user account settings and you can set it to log on 
automatically.
it will want you to enter your log in password.
once you get this set up it will go directly to the desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:16 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Desktop & Windows 10

Hi All,

Running Jaws 16 thru 2018 latest & Windows 10 Pro Creator latest.  I've been
searching the Internet & through 10's settings for a setting that I can use
for Windows 10 to boot to the desktop when starting, & also how to put the
desktop in the, Alt + Tab , order.  Well, I haven't had any luck, & if
anyone knows how to accomplish the above tasks', would you please be kind
enough to share?!  All help will be greatly appreciated, & gratefully
accepted.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments being forced to open in Microsoft Edge.

[David Moore]

If these are PDF files, they will open in Edge, because Edge renders PDF’s 
pretty well. If you want to use Adobe reader to read the PDF’s in, just press 
Shift+F10 or the applications key, and arrow to open with, and enter on Adobe 
reader.
David Moore
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From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Attachments being forced to open in Microsoft Edge.

What sort of files are they? 

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Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: January 18, 2018 7:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Attachments being forced to open in Microsoft Edge.

Hello, Everyone,

 

Recently I have received a couple of attachments that, when I try to open
them, want to open in Edge, even though IE is my default browser.  Is there
a work-around for this?

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] what's a good email program to use?

[David Moore]

Hi!
It is very little to switch.
Please take advantage of my tutorial written below.
I tell you what JAWS says, and I tell you each step that I do. It is very easy 
to use, and very simple if you do not need all of the frills of Outlook. I just 
send, reply, read, messages, and that is it. The Mail app for win10 is perfect 
for doing the basics.
The Calendar and people app work with the mail app. Contacts are imported into 
the People app, for example.
Please read my tutorial that I pasted below.
David Moore
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From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what's a good email program to use?

David:
What is the degree of difficulty if I were wanting to transition from WLM to 
the Microsoft Windows 10 Mail ap?

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] what's a good email program to use?

Hi!
The mail app that comes with win10 is not Windows live mail, but the mail 
app is much better to use, and it is much more reliable.
I wrote a tutorial on the mail, calendar, and people apps, as they all work 
together to give you the total email client experience.
I will just paste the tutorial right here for all to copy and paste in their 
word document or notepad or what ever.
Here is my entire text tutorial below right now Here it is:
Here is the start of the tutorial.
Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.
By
David Moore
All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the 
end of this tutorial.
Intruduction:

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the 
win10 Mail app,
your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar 
information, is imported into the Calendar app.
So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people 
app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to 
give you that MS outlook client experience.
The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with 
and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments 
and much more.
Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app 
or the People app.
Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.
Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any 
of these Microsoft accounts:
Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can 
also add any of these accounts:
Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

Section One
Launching the Windows 10 Mail App
So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The 
way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I 
heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.
Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have 
launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, 
you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are 
ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, 
your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

Section Two:
Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them 
to your taskbar:
Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.
You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your 
taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.
To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the 
run dialog.
just type:
shell:appsfolder
In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter 
of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.
Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.
Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:
Create short cut.
Enter on that, and you will hear:
Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop 
instead?
Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.
To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type 
Mail, for example.
When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow 
down to:
Pin to taskbar and press enter.
The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.
You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

Section Three
A Few Key Commands to get started:
Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get 
you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to 
different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar 
apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. 
Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. 
Narrator works great as well.
When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by 
pressing:
Caps Lock

Re: [JAWS-Users] what's a good email program to use?

[David Moore]

Hi!
The mail app that comes with win10 is not Windows live mail, but the mail app 
is much better to use, and it is much more reliable.
I wrote a tutorial on the mail, calendar, and people apps, as they all work 
together to give you the total email client experience.
I will just paste the tutorial right here for all to copy and paste in their 
word document or notepad or what ever.
Here is my entire text tutorial below right now Here it is:
Here is the start of the tutorial.
Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.
By
David Moore
All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end 
of this tutorial.
Intruduction:

 I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the 
win10 Mail app, 
your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar 
information, is imported into the Calendar app.
So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app 
and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give 
you that MS outlook client experience.
The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with 
and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and 
much more.
Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or 
the People app.
 Many of the commands are the same as in WLM. 
Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of 
these Microsoft accounts:
Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can 
also add any of these accounts:
Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

Section One
Launching the Windows 10 Mail App
So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way 
I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard 
windows mail app trusted windows store app.
Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched 
the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on 
the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start 
using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email 
account should already be imported into the mail app.

Section Two:
Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to 
your taskbar:
Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.
You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your 
taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.
To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run 
dialog.
just type:
shell:appsfolder 
In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of 
the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.
Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.
Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:
Create short cut.
Enter on that, and you will hear:
Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?
Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.
To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type 
Mail, for example.
When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow 
down to:
Pin to taskbar and press enter.
The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.
You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

Section Three
A Few Key Commands to get started:
 Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you 
anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different 
sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have 
been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no 
object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator 
works great as well.
When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by 
pressing:
Caps Lock+Spacebar.
That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.
You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.
You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode 
needs to be turnned off.
Scan Mode is just for reading.
When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can 
use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.
Now, to work with messages:
 to send your message, press
alt+S.
To reply to a message:
press ctrl+R.
to forward a message:
press CTRL+F.
to create a new message:
press CTRL+N.
As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.
To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.
You can then brows for the file you want to attach.
All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of 
this tutorial.

Section Four:
Importing your first account into the Mail App
Now, let us add our first account.
From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press 
enter.
If you do

Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[David Moore]

I am using Firefox 58 beta, with NVDA, and it is so snappy and the web sites 
load as fast as with Chrome. It is unbelievable!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

Well, it seems I was premature; it is not actually working (in the sense
that it's not solving captchas) on my Firefox 52 ESR. Oh well.

I'll get on board with FF 58. I used 57 with NVDA and it worked ok. All
reports say 58 will be better.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: January 11, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

Once the ESR goes to the latest version it won't work.  I will use the ESR
even after Jaws fixes version 57 or 58. you still get the security updates
to Fire Fox so I get the best of both worlds.   

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I believe
It appears to work with my Firefox 52 (esr). At least, the add-on is
installed and running, and some of its features appear to work, including
the additions to the firefox context menu. As to whether it solves these
things for real though -- well, to be honest, I'm still not sure.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: January 8, 2018 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I do not believe that Webvisum will work with later versions of Firefox.

Andy

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From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA


> Anybody use web vism?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of chris judge
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
> 
> I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
> 
> is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
> Email is golden!!!
> Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

[David Moore]

For who ever has Windows 10, there is the built in Mail, calendar, and people  
app, and it works great!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

And there is WLM also.

-Original Message- 
From: LeDon
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

There is also outlook.com where you can get an email account. I don't think 
that is what he is looking for, hover. I think that he was looking for a 
free email client that he could run from his computer.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

Hi,

I think what he is asking is if there are any free email services other than 
gmail and yahoo.  I believe there is something called gmx, but have not used 
it in a while.  There is also something called poste.de, but have not looked 
at it so don’’t really know.  Doing a search for free email services should 
do the trick though and if I come acrosst any myself I will be sure to pass 
them on..  Thanks.

Matthew



On 1/10/18, 2:12 PM, "JAWS-Users-List on behalf of Dave...Oregonian" 
<jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com on behalf of 
dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Not sure how to answer. If your friend is asking about other email 
servers,
I suspect it is based on their web interface. Otherwise, the question 
might
apply to the email client, perhaps?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "t" <1forjh...@gmail.com>
To: "jul" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:01
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services


I know that jaws works on gmail and yahoo email, but are there other 
free
email services that work with jaws? I have a blind friend that�s not 
on the
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome browser blocking some web sites

[David Moore]

Hi!
If you press tab, there is a choice to accept the web site and have it come up 
in Chrome. It is usually called: Allow. Just press enter on Allow, and the web 
site will come up in Chrome!
I have had some web sites say that as well.
That is all you do.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Chrome browser blocking some web sites

I am using W10, latest jaws and chrome browser and
some web sites chrome will not let me open some
web sites.  I am not using exact words but chrome
tells me that the web site is not safe but IE 11
will open the web site with no problems.  Is it
possible for this feature in chrome to be turned
off as I want to make up my own mind the web sites
I wish to open?

Thanks much,


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading YouTube audio to the PC?

[David Moore]

Hi!
Yes, it is the one that Carlos created.
It is a great program, and his instructions are awesome.
We Davids are taking over LOL!
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading YouTube audio to the PC?

I was talking about the portable one that David More has
there are too many Davids floating around!

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 5:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading YouTube audio to the PC?

David: is that the version that Carlos created? It did not cross my mind to
post it. I'll have to look to see if it is still laying around here or not.
If not then I'll need your copy to post.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 10:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

wanna share that program with the rest of us?
a URL to download would be great!

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

Hi guys!
I h ave the portable version of this program, and it works awesome! Merry
Christmas!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

Wow, I didn't even find that when I tried the download of the updated
version.

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

Free-Youtube-to-MP3-Converter doesn't require you to use flash, you need to
paste the link into it, select the conversion output mode and bit rate, if
applicable, and then download.
There is a feature in the Advanced area of the setup menu that has a
checkbox to improve accessibility for screen-readers.
Steve
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From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?


>I tried that one, but was notified I needed to download flash player,
>and I  didn't think I needed that in Windows 10.
>
> Is there something else I should be doing?
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 9:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?
>
> you can use a program youtube 2 mp3 converter it's on the jaws
> programs page http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/
> or there are various online youtube to mp3 converters online if you
> don't want to install a program onto your computer!
> https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:46 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?
>
> Does anyone on the list do this?  I would like to know how.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

[David Moore]

Hi guys!
I h ave the portable version of this program, and it works awesome! Merry 
Christmas!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

Wow, I didn't even find that when I tried the download of the updated
version.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?

Free-Youtube-to-MP3-Converter doesn't require you to use flash, you need to
paste the link into it, select the conversion output mode and bit rate, if
applicable, and then download.
There is a feature in the Advanced area of the setup menu that has a
checkbox to improve accessibility for screen-readers.
Steve
- Original Message -
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?


>I tried that one, but was notified I needed to download flash player, 
>and I  didn't think I needed that in Windows 10.
>
> Is there something else I should be doing?
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 9:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?
>
> you can use a program youtube 2 mp3 converter it's on the jaws 
> programs page http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/
> or there are various online youtube to mp3 converters online if you 
> don't want to install a program onto your computer!
> https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 8:46 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading Youtube audio to the PC?
>
> Does anyone on the list do this?  I would like to know how.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

[David Moore]

Hi,
I press CTRL+W and I go back to the web page. It is like another tab you have 
open, so CTRL+W closes the downloads page and gets you back to the original web 
page!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 4:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

Except my question was getting back to the web page.

Thanks.




Judy
sent from the braille U2 Mini
"Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings!"

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From: Mike Mote  <miketmot...@gmail.com>
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:18 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.

>
>
> You can press control plus the letter J, and get to your downloads folder.
> From there, you can see the file you are trying to download.  Hope this
> helps!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.
> 
> Does f6 work?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downloading in Google Chrome.
> 
> Hello, Listers,
> 
>  
> 
> Again, I need another reminder.  When wanting to download in Google Chrome.
> With IE, you can press alt-N and have the choice of open or save.  This
> option is not available in Google Chrom per sae, but there must be another
> way to get to any information bar like you would with alt-N in internet
> explorer.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for the how-to reminder.
> 
>  
> 
> Judy
> 
>  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Moore]

Hi!
I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an 
earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10, 
and it works like a charm as well.
However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE does 
work like a charm.
If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it into 
a message and put it on here.
Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at all.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
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From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
Everything running smoothly, as I recall.

Judy




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

[David Moore]

Hi!
To high light the address bar, press
Alt+D, not CTRL+D
CTRL+D allows you to save a favorite or bookmark depending on the browser.
So again:
Press Alt+D, then:
Press CTRL+C.
David Moore
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From: Samuel White
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

Control + d then control + c

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Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:23 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] copying address bar IE

Could someone please refresh my memory as to what the Jaws Keystrokes are
for highlighting the address bar and copying it to the clipboard.  Thanks,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[David Moore]

Hi!
Definitely Google Chrome browser. JAWS is very snappy in Chrome, and the Chrome 
browser loads pages and handles downloads very quickly. I have a tutorial on 
Using Google Chrome, a Text tutorial, that is very up to date if you guys want 
it.
David Moore
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From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those of us who didn't stay with Win 7 and moved to Win 10, what browser
works best with Jaws 18?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I agree!  But Chrome also works well with Win 7.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.


> For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the 
> field, IE11 still works well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if

> others are experiencing this.
>
>
>
> I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition. 
> Even before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to 
> load.  All of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve

> itself, then I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs 
> slightly from one incident to another, with the final announcement that IE

> is closing.
> Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in 
> the first place, but not always.
>
>
>
> Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or

> is this just IE not getting support?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

[David Moore]

Yes!
I can hardly use IE with JAWS anymore on my Win10 1709 laptops.
Chrome is so much better than JAWS. The Chrome browser is much faster, more 
secure, and very accessible.
IE 11, is about done with using any screen reader. I would definitely switch to 
Firefox, or Chrome, Chrome even better.
David Moore
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From: Steve
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

Yes, very definitely, and almost totally happens with Jaws, but not other 
screen-readers.
It not only happens in Windows 10, but also 8 and 7.
- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.


> Hello,
>
>
>
> I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if
> others are experiencing this.
>
>
>
> I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition. 
> Even
> before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to load. 
> All
> of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve itself, 
> then
> I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs slightly from one
> incident to another, with the final announcement that IE is closing.
> Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in 
> the
> first place, but not always.
>
>
>
> Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or
> is this just IE not getting support?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microphone for using Cortana

[David Moore]

Wow, Brian!
I am right here in Columbus, Ohio!
I will email you off list!
I have a Scull Candy blue tooth head set, that I love.
The microphone works really great.
Believe it or not, my USB head set is the same Logitech one that you mensioned.
You know, the microphone does not work as well for me either with that headset.
The recording quality is not nearly as good as with the Blue Tooth Scull Candy 
head set.
I am not sure of the model of that, but my wife bought it for me at Best Buy 
for $50.00.
It is the favorite headset I have owned.
Take care, Brian, and it is so great to hear that you are right here a few 
miles from me LOL!
David Moore
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From: Brian Zolo
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microphone for using Cortana

Hi, David, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio.  I'm looking for a good usb
headset or a good Bluetooth headset.  I'm a skype user and need a better
quality headset microphone than the one in this Logitech h540 headset.  I'd
love to go wireless either Bluetooth or a good usb wireless headset.  Any
suggestions will be welcome!  Have a great weekend!  BZ!

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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 2:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microphone for using Cortana

Hi!
I use Cortana a lot, and I use one of three microphones.
I use a USB head set that has a built-in microphone, and Cortana hears me
great with that. I have a Blue Tooth Head set with built-in microphone, and
Cortana hears that one great as well.
Third, I use my built in microphone that came on my laptop, and that works
great as well. Cortana is great at understanding you. Just press:
Windows+C and you will hear a sound, and ask her about anything, and you
will get an answer, or you will get a web page of great search results to
read with your screen reader.
David Moore
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From: Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 6:17 AM
To: post jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microphone for using Cortana

I am using W10, jaws2018 and IE 11 browser and could someone that is using
cortana tell or suggest a good microphone for starting out with cortana and
knows almost nothing about cortana.   I will appreciate any info on this or
any other info on cortana.

Thanks much,?  

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microphone for using Cortana

[David Moore]

Hi!
I use Cortana a lot, and I use one of three microphones.
I use a USB head set that has a built-in microphone, and Cortana hears me great 
with that. I have a Blue Tooth Head set with built-in microphone, and Cortana 
hears that one great as well.
Third, I use my built in microphone that came on my laptop, and that works 
great as well. Cortana is great at understanding you. Just press:
Windows+C and you will hear a sound, and ask her about anything, and you will 
get an answer, or you will get a web page of great search results to read with 
your screen reader.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 6:17 AM
To: post jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microphone for using Cortana

I am using W10, jaws2018 and IE 11 browser and could someone that is using
cortana tell or suggest a good microphone for starting out with cortana and
knows almost nothing about cortana.   I will appreciate any info on this or
any other info on cortana.

Thanks much,?  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] has the November update for Jaws been released?

[David Moore]

Yes, it sure has!
I received the DVD for it already!
David Moore
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From: Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] has the November update for Jaws been released?

Hi, has the November update for Jaws 2018 been released I didn't see and was
just wondering if I missed it.  I see on  October 31  a news release for
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Re: [JAWS-Users] admin memo

[David Moore]

Thanks, David!
I wondered why I was not getting any messages for three days. I thought I was 
bumped off the list by accident or something. I missed you guys!
Glad we are back together again LOL!
David Moore
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From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] admin memo

The Mailman server had to be rebooted so I contacted my guy in Canada who is 
the only person at this time that is capable of doing it.

I imagine I could do it but I don't have that level of JAWS license to do 
that kind of stuff.

Never the less sorry for the little glitch as all should be back to normal 
or what passes for that around here for some time to come.With luck next 
time I'll catch it a little sooner, but so goes life.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] just checking for any server issues today AKA a test 
message

It has been quite slow here of late which does give me pause to wonder what 
is going on.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and chrome

[David Moore]

Hi Mary!
It is called, just read!
Just press the Alt to open the virticle menu, go to more sub menu, and go to 
extensions.
You can go to the store on that page, and just type in Just Read, and that 
extension will come right up.
Just have that install to Chrome, go back to the extensions page, and make sure 
that is activated in your list of extensions that you have on Chrome!
It does indeed work great with CTRL+Shift+L!
I hope that helps.
Please ask again, if that doesn’t work!
David Moore
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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and chrome

I have jaws 2018 and the latest released version of the chrome browser. I 
understand there is some kind of a reading and on or plug-in or whatever they 
call it, that will enable you to get rid of junk on webpage and read the 
article you want by using control shift l. I tried to find this in the Google 
store that is associated with chrome and failed miserably. If anybody knows how 
to get this add on please help me out here.
Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 mail questions

[David Moore]

Hi!
If you delete a message in the Win10 Mail app, it is deleted from the server.
They only stay on the server if you do not delete the message in the Win10 Mail 
app.
So, they are gone on the server as soon as you press delete in the Mail app LOL!
Take care!
David Moore
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From: David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 mail questions

FYI it is perfectly right on topic, so ask away.

-Original Message- 
From: mary otten
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 mail questions

I hope this is not off topic. I’m using the above named program with Jaws 
2018. On my old Windows xp machine with its equally old email client, this 
account was set to pop3. That’s all the old email program supported. There 
was a setting in that email client that allowed me to delete messages from 
the server once they had been downloaded. I know that with gmail on my 
phone, I have the option of archiving deleted messages or permanently 
deleting them after, I think it is 30 days. I can’t find anything like that 
in the windows 10 mail app, which, I guess, means that deleted messages are 
going to stay on the server forever, which is not at all what I want. If 
there is a setting like what I have described in this app, where is it and 
how do I get to it?

Also, I am seeing all of the emails I sent showing up in my messages list in 
the inbox in the mail app. That never happened on my xp machine, and it does 
not happen in any mail account I have on my phone, and it is not something I 
want. I don’t mind a separate sent mail folder, but I sure don’t want to see 
what I send in my inbox. How can I make this stop? Thanks in advance for any 
help.

Mary

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

[David Moore]

Hi Mitch!
Thanks for offering to do that for Mary!
David Moore
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From: Mitch 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

Hi Mary,  David Moore has written helpful tutorials for both Windows 10 Mail as 
well as Edge.
Should you want either or both, I can send them to you as attachments if you 
wish.
You can write me off list at

mi...@orbitelcom.com

Best Wishes, Mitch

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A:  To get to the other Web Site.
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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

Hi all,

I have just joined this list with a new copy of JAWS 2018 installed on
a Windows 10 64-bit pc. It has been years since I used JAWS, so I'm the
next thing to a newby. I'm interested in the use of the Windows 10 mail
client with JAWS. Because of issues with the Edge browser, and the fact
that this mail app is apparently based on that engine, I am thinking
that it might not be all that great with JAWS until the underlying Edge
issues are fully solved. Is that true? I'd like to be wrong, as I
really don't think I need a mail app as complex as Outlook, which I
don't own in any case. Advice, please?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

[David Moore]

Hi Kimsan!
On the settings page, you creat a home page and a start up page. The start up 
page or pages, do not have to be the same as the home page, but it can be.
There is not a save or Okay button for either.
I just set my home and start page to:
www.Google.com
However, you can set them to any URL.
Just type in the URL for your start page and home page, and press enter.
I hope that helps.
When you start Chrome, you need a start page for Chrome to go to.
That is different than your home page that you go to when you press Alt+Home.
Have a great one!
David Moore
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From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

I haven't even messed with the edge browser. I'm not up with the Jonses so
I'll stay far back but not far enough to be behind. I just have no reason to
use edge, but I will be reading the tutorial though. Not sure which version
of jaws works well with edge, as I forgot.
As far as chrome goes, after setting up your homepage to what you want,
there is no save button right?
I ask this cause I set my home page to a search site but when launching
chrome, it places me on the address bar and not the site I designated which
is startpage if I remember the name right.
Thanks for the comment for the rasslin site. I do it for fun, as lord knows
I need a break and at least smile for once lol. Let all your rasslin buddies
know too!

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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Hi Kimsan!
Thank you so much, and thank you for the rasslin web site. I really am into
it.
I will send another message here in a bit, with the same kind of tutorial on
Using the Edge browser.
David Moore
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From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Thank you David. After using IE all of my life, I got fed up with it and all
it's crashing, so I've adopted chrome.

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Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Hi!
Press:
Alt+F
To open the one and only virticle menu for Chrome.
Arrow up a few times to settings, and press enter.
A web like page will come up, so press H for heading one time.
Then, arrow down to make Chrome your default browser. Check the different
catagories of settings there, which are all headings.
I will send a brand new updated text tutorial to the list that I did on
using Google Chrome.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Hi,

I would like to start using google chrome. First thing I'd like to do is set
it as my default browser. The pop up use to appear to have me set the beast
as the default browser but not anymore.

Also, with google chrome are there any menus etc? I ask this as I press alt
t, the alt key in general, nothing. When I launch google chrome, ***Never
mind I just found what I was looking for pertaining to the menu thing, but
how do I make it my default browser? 

Thank you.

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Tutorial on Using the Microsoft Edge Browser

[David Moore]

Hi all.
I will paste, right here in this message, the same kind of text tutorial on 
Using the Microsoft Edge Browser.
It will be laid out just like the Chrome tutorial.
I take you, step by step, through how to set up Edge, and I take you through 
all settings and tell you how to customise Edge to your liking.
The Edge tutorial is right below.
Here it is:
Tutorial for Using Microsoft Edge
By
David Moore
I am using the latest public build of Windows 10 Creators update.
If you are using anything different than that, you might get different results.
When you can press spacebar or enter, I will list them both.
If I only list enter, that means that you can only use enter.
If I only list Spacebar, that means that you can only press spacebar to toggle 
something, for example.
I have a list of all key commands for Edge at the end of this tutorial. Through 
the tutorial, I will point out many key commands as well, as I go.

Section Number One
Opening the Edge Browser:
Press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape, to open the start area. Next, type Edge 
and enter when Narrator announces it.
Press enter, and the Edge browser should open.

Section Number Two
Opening the Freedom Scientific Web Site:
I pressed CTRL+L (alt+D works as well) and entered:
www.freedomscientific.com
That is the site for Freedom Scientific.
The web site came up very quickly.
I can use all navigation keys, like H for heading, C for Combo Box, E for edit 
area, , for example, just like other browsers, and they all work.
Section Three
Pressing alt+X to get a large Virticle Menu:
Now, I will now press ALT+X to open the settings and more menu! This is to the 
right of the address bar, but Alt+X opens this same menu. We have a lot in this 
virticle menu.a large virticle menu of choices. When I down arrow, I here the 
following:
New Window (CTRL+N), New InPrivate Window (CTRL+SHIFT+P), Zoom out, Zoom in, 
Cast media to device, Find on page, Print, Pin this page to Start, F12 
Developer Tools, Open with Internet Explorer, Send feedback, Extensions, What's 
new and Tips, and finally, Settings. Extensions and Settings are the main two 
choices we are interested in with this menu. Key commands will do the rest.
Next, I will talk about settings.
Section Four:
Navigating settings and Advance settings:
Press alt+X again, and up arrow once to settings, because that is the last 
choice.
Press enter on settings.
You will hear:
Choose a Theme light.
Don't worry about that!
Tab once, and you will hear:
Open Microsoft Edge with a page or set of pages combo box.
This is how you choose how you want Microsoft Edge to open.
I have mine set to a specific page or pages.
Now, Tab again, and you have an edit field where you can type in your pages 
that you want opened When Microsoft Edge is launched.
I just entered:
www.google.com
Therefore, when I start Edge, the Google home page opens for me.
Tabbing again:
I hear delete button, where you can press spacebar or enter to delete your page 
or pages.
Tabbing again, I hear Add Button, where you can press spacebar or enter and add 
another page that you want to open when Edge is started.
Tabbing again, I hear:
Open new tabs with combo box.
I have this set to a blank page.
Tab again, and you will hear:
Import from another browser button.
You can press spacebar or enter here to import all favorites and settings from 
other browsers you use, like IE 11 or Chrome, or Firefox.
Tab again, and you will hear:
Show the favorites bar toggle.
I have this unchecked, because I do not want everyone to see my favorites on a 
bar right on the Edge Window. Press spacebar to check or uncheck..
Tab again, and you hear:
Choose what to clear.
If you press spacebar on this, you can tab and check or uncheck what is cleared 
when you delete your history. You can also choose whether this should be 
cleared every time you close the Edge browser.
Tab, and you will either hear Account Settings or your MSA account link, 
depending on your account setting.
Tabbing again, I hear:
Sync your favorites and reading list unchecked.
 You definitely want to check this by pressing spacebar, so all of your Edge 
data will be synced between all of your devices. If you do not want this, then 
uncheck it with spacebar.
Tab again, and you hear:
Sync device settings link.
Tab again, and you hear:
View Advanced settings button.
This is important, and I will cover that in a bit.
Tab again, and you hear:
Terms of use link.
Tab again, and you hear:
Privacy statement link.
Tab again, and you hear:
Pin this pane button.
Tab again, and you hear:
Change my default button.
We are back to the beginning of settings. Now, let us go through the advanced 
settings.
Next, press Alt+X, and up arrow once to settings, and press enter. Now, Shift 
tab to Advanced settings, since that was almost at the end of what we tabbed 
through. Go ahead and enter on the advanced settings. There is a lot you can 
customise here.  Let’s tab through this menu.
Press enter on Advanced Settings, and you hear

Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

[David Moore]

Hi Kimsan!
Thank you so much, and thank you for the rasslin web site. I really am into it.
I will send another message here in a bit, with the same kind of tutorial on 
Using the Edge browser.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Thank you David. After using IE all of my life, I got fed up with it and all
it's crashing, so I've adopted chrome.

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/
Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Hi!
Press:
Alt+F
To open the one and only virticle menu for Chrome.
Arrow up a few times to settings, and press enter.
A web like page will come up, so press H for heading one time.
Then, arrow down to make Chrome your default browser. Check the different
catagories of settings there, which are all headings.
I will send a brand new updated text tutorial to the list that I did on
using Google Chrome.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Hi,

I would like to start using google chrome. First thing I'd like to do is set
it as my default browser. The pop up use to appear to have me set the beast
as the default browser but not anymore.

Also, with google chrome are there any menus etc? I ask this as I press alt
t, the alt key in general, nothing. When I launch google chrome, ***Never
mind I just found what I was looking for pertaining to the menu thing, but
how do I make it my default browser? 

Thank you.

 

 

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/

Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome Browser allUpdated

[David Moore]

Thank you very much, David!
I will paste another text tutorial in another message on using the Edge browser.
It will be the same kind of text tutorial as this one on Chrome!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome Browser 
allUpdated

Already done, wow that was fast.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome Browser 
all Updated

I'll go ahead and update the link on the server with this newest version of
your tutorial.

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 2:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome Browser all
Updated

Hi all!
I will paste, in this email, my new text tutorial I did on Using the Chrome
Browser.
It is totally updated.
I tell you each key command I press, and what JAWS says.
You can read this tutorial, and repeat what I do on your computer.
I take you through all of the settings of Chrome, and tell you how to
customize it to your liking.
The tutorial will be pasted right into this message below.
You can read the tutorial right below.
Here is the tutorial on using Chrome!
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18, JAWS 2018, and NVDA 2017.4for this tutorial,
because they all work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:
Launching Chrome:
One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and
type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say
Chrome.
However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut
icon on your desktop.
So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to
open Chrome.
The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google
Chrome icon on your desktop.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get
undesirable results.

Section Two:
Bringing up a web site.
Press CTRL+L or Alt+D
and type the following:
www.freedomscientific.com
The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.
All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo
box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:
The Virticle Chrome menu:
I will press Alt+F.
The Chrome menu is open.
This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down
arrow through.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming
here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with
Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to
see. I do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to
your computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE,
and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their
corresponding folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices
I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this
happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices

Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

[David Moore]

Hi!
Press:
Alt+F
To open the one and only virticle menu for Chrome.
Arrow up a few times to settings, and press enter.
A web like page will come up, so press H for heading one time.
Then, arrow down to make Chrome your default browser. Check the different 
catagories of settings there, which are all headings.
I will send a brand new updated text tutorial to the list that I did on using 
Google Chrome.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google chrome

Hi,

I would like to start using google chrome. First thing I'd like to do is set
it as my default browser. The pop up use to appear to have me set the beast
as the default browser but not anymore.

Also, with google chrome are there any menus etc? I ask this as I press alt
t, the alt key in general, nothing. When I launch google chrome, ***Never
mind I just found what I was looking for pertaining to the menu thing, but
how do I make it my default browser? 

Thank you.

 

 

If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for
blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/

Also, you may like our page on facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/

 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome Browser all Updated

[David Moore]

Hi all!
I will paste, in this email, my new text tutorial I did on Using the Chrome 
Browser.
It is totally updated.
I tell you each key command I press, and what JAWS says.
You can read this tutorial, and repeat what I do on your computer.
I take you through all of the settings of Chrome, and tell you how to customize 
it to your liking.
The tutorial will be pasted right into this message below.
You can read the tutorial right below.
Here is the tutorial on using Chrome!
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18, JAWS 2018, and NVDA 2017.4for this tutorial, because 
they all work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:
Launching Chrome:
One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type 
Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.
However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut 
icon on your desktop.
So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open 
Chrome.
The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google 
Chrome icon on your desktop.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
undesirable results.

Section Two:
Bringing up a web site.
Press CTRL+L or Alt+D
and type the following:
www.freedomscientific.com
The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.
All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, 
and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:
The Virticle Chrome menu:
I will press Alt+F.
The Chrome menu is open.
This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down 
arrow through.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I 
do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, 
to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a 
page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your 
computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and 
Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding 
folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I 
mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, 
I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, 
and enter on the desired one.
To save a web site as a bookmark,
Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.
I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!
I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered 
by just pressing alt.
The next few are very self explanatory.
The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
I will press right arrow on this.
I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.
Next, Save to desktop.
This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is 
how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.
It is hidden under this more tools submenu

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the GoogleChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Sure, Judy!
I understand. That is why it is good to keep using IE and get to know Chrome 
better and better over time. IE is not going to last much longer, and Chrome is 
an excellent alternative. You do not have to leave IE cold turkey LOL! That is 
the best way to get to know a new program. When you get used to Chrome, it will 
really be great and fast for you. Pretty, soon, we will be able to learn Edge 
with JAWS. I am already using it with NVDA. Take care, Judy, and email me 
privately at:
jesusloves1...@gmail.com
If you need any help!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 12:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the 
GoogleChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

All in all, I do like Chrome better even though I am used to IE.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

Good job, Judy for figuring that out!
I will get on Chrome right now, and find out why it is not showing the
events link with the m.facebook.com mobile Facebook site. That is one web
site that is better to use in IE. I use Chrome for most sites, but
sometimes, you still need IE for a few. The One Drive site works a bit
better in IE as well. However, most sites work much better in Chrome. I will
check out what you described and get back very soon!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

My settings showed up on an internet page, but you then click on Advanced
heading which will expand.  Content is one of the headings you click on and
it will expand.  Under Flash, my system was set to Ask First, but I changed
it to Allow from there.  

I do wish there were a way to show the Events link on my m.facebook.com site
though.

Judy
Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA

My Chrome was working with gameday audio, but now it doesn't and I give up
on getting it to work again.  I can't tell is flash is allowed or not.  I
may call mlb but internet explorer is working fine.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/7/2017 3:28 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
> Open chrome;
>
> In the addressbar type:
> chrome://settings/content
> now arrow down until you hear/see,
> flash,
> allow sites  to run flash,
> you may need to click it.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, 
> but what they conceal is vital.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike Mote
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> Hi there!  Once in Chrome, press the Alt key to pull up your menu of 
> options.  Ust the arrow keys until you find settings.  Press enter to 
> open the settings page.  The quickest way to find the content part is 
> to type the word content into the search box.  Press enter on the 
> search button or after typing the word content.  The settings related 
> to content will then be displayed.  You can use your button navigation 
> to
locate content settings.
> You should be able to find the flash settings in this section.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> I can't find my content to check on flash.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/7/2017 2:55 PM, Mike Mote wrote:
>> Hi Jim!  I had the same issue, and was able to fix it.  I did it by 
>> going into the settings of Chrome, and then into my content settings.
>> I mads sure that flash content was allowed.  You may want to toggle 
>> it on and off just to make sure it works.  I hope this helps you out!
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Good job, Judy for figuring that out!
I will get on Chrome right now, and find out why it is not showing the events 
link with the m.facebook.com mobile Facebook site. That is one web site that is 
better to use in IE. I use Chrome for most sites, but sometimes, you still need 
IE for a few. The One Drive site works a bit better in IE as well. However, 
most sites work much better in Chrome. I will check out what you described and 
get back very soon!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

My settings showed up on an internet page, but you then click on Advanced
heading which will expand.  Content is one of the headings you click on and
it will expand.  Under Flash, my system was set to Ask First, but I changed
it to Allow from there.  

I do wish there were a way to show the Events link on my m.facebook.com site
though.

Judy
Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA

My Chrome was working with gameday audio, but now it doesn't and I give up
on getting it to work again.  I can't tell is flash is allowed or not.  I
may call mlb but internet explorer is working fine.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/7/2017 3:28 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
> Open chrome;
>
> In the addressbar type:
> chrome://settings/content
> now arrow down until you hear/see,
> flash,
> allow sites  to run flash,
> you may need to click it.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, 
> but what they conceal is vital.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Mote
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:12 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> Hi there!  Once in Chrome, press the Alt key to pull up your menu of 
> options.  Ust the arrow keys until you find settings.  Press enter to 
> open the settings page.  The quickest way to find the content part is 
> to type the word content into the search box.  Press enter on the 
> search button or after typing the word content.  The settings related 
> to content will then be displayed.  You can use your button navigation to
locate content settings.
> You should be able to find the flash settings in this section.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> I can't find my content to check on flash.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/7/2017 2:55 PM, Mike Mote wrote:
>> Hi Jim!  I had the same issue, and was able to fix it.  I did it by 
>> going into the settings of Chrome, and then into my content settings.
>> I mads sure that flash content was allowed.  You may want to toggle 
>> it on and off just to make sure it works.  I hope this helps you out!
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of jimrawls
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:00 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the 
>> Google Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> David,
>> I have read through the tutorial and it is wonderful. However, my 
>> game day audio remains. I can't get any game to play using game day 
>> audio on
> chrome.
>> Any ideas on how to fix this? Jim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of David Moore
>> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:17 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I did an Updated text tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser. It 
>> is pasted right here in this email, so you can read it, and give me
> feedback

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Hi,
If you enter a phone number, Google can call you to help you get your pass word 
back. I don’t mess with that, because you can change your pass word in your 
Google account on the computer. You can put your personal phone number there if 
you want.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 7:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

Hi David,
You didn't specify, what the phone number is for.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "David Whitehead" <davidmac1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA


Hello there;
First, are you certain your using the latest version of chrome?
Secondly, do you have the latest version of adobe flash player?
Thirdly, have you tried, call 866-800-1275

Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jimrawls
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA

David,
I have read through the tutorial and it is wonderful. However, my game day
audio remains. I can't get any game to play using game day audio on chrome.
Any ideas on how to fix this? Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome
Browser with JAWS or NVDA

Hi all,
I did an Updated text tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser. It is
pasted right here in this email, so you can read it, and give me feedback.
On each line, I tell you what my computer says as I take you through the
Google Chrome menu, and I take you carefully through the settings web page.
This is a lot like the Options page in Firefox, but it is easier to
navigate.
I hope this really helps you get started with Chrome, because it works so
well for me.
Here is the tutorial right below!
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both
work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.
First, I will launch Chrome. We will not create a home page until we get to
the Chrome settings web page.
This is a lot like the Options page in Firefox, or the Options dialog in IE.
Pressing the Alt key, opens the one and only, Chrome menu, with many choices
that I will arrow down through.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get
undesirable results.
I will press the Alt key.
The Chrome menu is open.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming
here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with
Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to
see. I do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to
your computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear 

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I am very glad that so many of you are helping each other. I am glad you are 
figuring out the flash in Chrome. That is something I never had to deal with.
I will keep following this thread to see how all of you are doing with Chrome. 
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

Finally got it.  Not sure why it stopped working and not sure how I got 
it back.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/7/2017 4:39 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
> Hello;
> When you load Chrome;
>
> In the addressbar type the following;
>
> Chrome"//settings/content
>
> Press enter,
> Now you can arrow down, once you get to flash,
> You may need to change the setting,
> What you want to see is;
> Flash,
> Allow sites to run flash clickable.
> If this is not the case, you'll need to change.
>
>
>
> Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
> what they conceal is vital.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> My Chrome was working with gameday audio, but now it doesn't and I give
> up on getting it to work again.  I can't tell is flash is allowed or
> not.  I may call mlb but internet explorer is working fine.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/7/2017 3:28 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
>> Open chrome;
>>
>> In the addressbar type:
>> chrome://settings/content
>> now arrow down until you hear/see,
>> flash,
>> allow sites  to run flash,
>> you may need to click it.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
>> what they conceal is vital.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Mote
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:12 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> Hi there!  Once in Chrome, press the Alt key to pull up your menu of
>> options.  Ust the arrow keys until you find settings.  Press enter to open
>> the settings page.  The quickest way to find the content part is to type
> the
>> word content into the search box.  Press enter on the search button or
> after
>> typing the word content.  The settings related to content will then be
>> displayed.  You can use your button navigation to locate content settings.
>> You should be able to find the flash settings in this section.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:07 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> I can't find my content to check on flash.
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
>> --St. Francis
>>
>> On 7/7/2017 2:55 PM, Mike Mote wrote:
>>> Hi Jim!  I had the same issue, and was able to fix it.  I did it by
>>> going into the settings of Chrome, and then into my content settings.
>>> I mads sure that flash content was allowed.  You may want to toggle it
>>> on and off just to make sure it works.  I hope this helps you out!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of jimrawls
>>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:00 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>>
>>> David,
>>> I have read through the tutorial and it is wonderful. However, my game
>>> day audio remains. I can't get any game to play using game day audio on
>> chrome.
>>> Any ideas on how to fix this? Jim
>>>
>>> -Orig

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I am so happy that you are figuring out the flash in Chrome. I never had to 
deal with that. I am very glad that so many of you are helping out each other. 
That is what it is all about. I will keep following this thread to see how all 
of you are doing with Chrome. Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

Finally got it.  Not sure why it stopped working and not sure how I got 
it back.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/7/2017 4:39 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
> Hello;
> When you load Chrome;
>
> In the addressbar type the following;
>
> Chrome"//settings/content
>
> Press enter,
> Now you can arrow down, once you get to flash,
> You may need to change the setting,
> What you want to see is;
> Flash,
> Allow sites to run flash clickable.
> If this is not the case, you'll need to change.
>
>
>
> Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
> what they conceal is vital.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> My Chrome was working with gameday audio, but now it doesn't and I give
> up on getting it to work again.  I can't tell is flash is allowed or
> not.  I may call mlb but internet explorer is working fine.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/7/2017 3:28 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
>> Open chrome;
>>
>> In the addressbar type:
>> chrome://settings/content
>> now arrow down until you hear/see,
>> flash,
>> allow sites  to run flash,
>> you may need to click it.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
>> what they conceal is vital.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Mote
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:12 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> Hi there!  Once in Chrome, press the Alt key to pull up your menu of
>> options.  Ust the arrow keys until you find settings.  Press enter to open
>> the settings page.  The quickest way to find the content part is to type
> the
>> word content into the search box.  Press enter on the search button or
> after
>> typing the word content.  The settings related to content will then be
>> displayed.  You can use your button navigation to locate content settings.
>> You should be able to find the flash settings in this section.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:07 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> I can't find my content to check on flash.
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
>> --St. Francis
>>
>> On 7/7/2017 2:55 PM, Mike Mote wrote:
>>> Hi Jim!  I had the same issue, and was able to fix it.  I did it by
>>> going into the settings of Chrome, and then into my content settings.
>>> I mads sure that flash content was allowed.  You may want to toggle it
>>> on and off just to make sure it works.  I hope this helps you out!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of jimrawls
>>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:00 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>>
>>> David,
>>> I have read through the tutorial and it is wonderful. However, my game
>>> day audio remains. I can't get any game to play using game day audio on
>> chrome.
>>> Any ideas on how to fix this? Jim
>>>

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I am so happy that you are figuring out the flash in Chrome. That is something 
I never had to deal with. Thanks for all of your input, and I am glad that so 
many of you are helping each other with this. That is what it is all about!
Have a great one, and I will keep looking at this thread to see how all of you 
are doing.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

Finally got it.  Not sure why it stopped working and not sure how I got 
it back.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/7/2017 4:39 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
> Hello;
> When you load Chrome;
>
> In the addressbar type the following;
>
> Chrome"//settings/content
>
> Press enter,
> Now you can arrow down, once you get to flash,
> You may need to change the setting,
> What you want to see is;
> Flash,
> Allow sites to run flash clickable.
> If this is not the case, you'll need to change.
>
>
>
> Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
> what they conceal is vital.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>
> My Chrome was working with gameday audio, but now it doesn't and I give
> up on getting it to work again.  I can't tell is flash is allowed or
> not.  I may call mlb but internet explorer is working fine.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/7/2017 3:28 PM, David Whitehead wrote:
>> Open chrome;
>>
>> In the addressbar type:
>> chrome://settings/content
>> now arrow down until you hear/see,
>> flash,
>> allow sites  to run flash,
>> you may need to click it.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
>> what they conceal is vital.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Mote
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:12 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> Hi there!  Once in Chrome, press the Alt key to pull up your menu of
>> options.  Ust the arrow keys until you find settings.  Press enter to open
>> the settings page.  The quickest way to find the content part is to type
> the
>> word content into the search box.  Press enter on the search button or
> after
>> typing the word content.  The settings related to content will then be
>> displayed.  You can use your button navigation to locate content settings.
>> You should be able to find the flash settings in this section.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 3:07 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>
>> I can't find my content to check on flash.
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
>> --St. Francis
>>
>> On 7/7/2017 2:55 PM, Mike Mote wrote:
>>> Hi Jim!  I had the same issue, and was able to fix it.  I did it by
>>> going into the settings of Chrome, and then into my content settings.
>>> I mads sure that flash content was allowed.  You may want to toggle it
>>> on and off just to make sure it works.  I hope this helps you out!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of jimrawls
>>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:00 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google
>>> Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA
>>>
>>> David,
>>> I have read through the tutorial and it is wonderful. However, my game
>>> day audio remains. I can't get any game to play using game day audio on
>> chrome.
>>> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Yes, David!
Please put the tutorial on the tips and tricks page.
I hope you and many get something out of it.
Thanks a lot, David!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 6:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google 
ChromeBrowser with JAWS or NVDA

David, if you want I can post it on the tips and tricks page. It is of 
course totally up to you.

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome 
Browser with JAWS or NVDA

Hi all,
I did an Updated text tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser. It is 
pasted right here in this email, so you can read it, and give me feedback.
On each line, I tell you what my computer says as I take you through the 
Google Chrome menu, and I take you carefully through the settings web page.
This is a lot like the Options page in Firefox, but it is easier to 
navigate.
I hope this really helps you get started with Chrome, because it works so 
well for me.
Here is the tutorial right below!
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both 
work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.
First, I will launch Chrome. We will not create a home page until we get to 
the Chrome settings web page.
This is a lot like the Options page in Firefox, or the Options dialog in IE.
Pressing the Alt key, opens the one and only, Chrome menu, with many choices 
that I will arrow down through.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
undesirable results.
I will press the Alt key.
The Chrome menu is open.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming 
here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with 
Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to 
see. I do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can 
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and 
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to 
your computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, 
and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their 
corresponding folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices 
I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this 
happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved 
bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.
The next few are very self explanatory.
The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
I will press right arrow on this.
I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.
Next, Save to desktop.
This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This 
is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.
It is hidden under this more tools submenu.
Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.
Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so

[JAWS-Users] An Updated Text Tutorial on Using the Google Chrome Browser with JAWS or NVDA

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I did an Updated text tutorial on using the Google Chrome browser. It is pasted 
right here in this email, so you can read it, and give me feedback.
On each line, I tell you what my computer says as I take you through the Google 
Chrome menu, and I take you carefully through the settings web page.
This is a lot like the Options page in Firefox, but it is easier to navigate.
I hope this really helps you get started with Chrome, because it works so well 
for me.
Here is the tutorial right below!
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both 
work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.
First, I will launch Chrome. We will not create a home page until we get to the 
Chrome settings web page.
This is a lot like the Options page in Firefox, or the Options dialog in IE.
Pressing the Alt key, opens the one and only, Chrome menu, with many choices 
that I will arrow down through.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
undesirable results.
I will press the Alt key.
The Chrome menu is open.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I 
do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, 
to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a 
page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your 
computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and 
Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding 
folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I 
mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, 
I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, 
and enter on the desired one.
The next few are very self explanatory.
The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
I will press right arrow on this.
I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.
Next, Save to desktop.
This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is 
how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.
It is hidden under this more tools submenu.
Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.
Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.
These are the same as add ons, in IE.
They are called Extensions in Chrome.
The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.
Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the 
virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.
First, on this page, there is an edit field to search for a setting to change.
You can simply press enter to get into forms mode with JAWS or focus mode with 
NVDA, and sign into Chrome with your email and password associated with your 
Google Account.
This is very accessible now; a year ago, it was not.
Now, you can press enter on sync.
There is a combo box here, and I chose to sync everything that I

Re: [JAWS-Users] grammarly and google

[David Moore]

Hi Lenny!
I can’t find that out either! What excites me is that you can upload all of 
your documents into Grammarly, and store them on Grammar’s cloud service. That 
is exciting right there. I tried using it on Chrome, but I can’t figure out how 
to get it working on there. I made mistakes on Facebook, on purpose, and I got 
no help from the Grammarly extention. Let us know if you figure out anything we 
can really do with Grammerly except for uploading our documents which is 
exciting right there, though!
David Moore
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From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 1:11 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] grammarly and google

It states that grammarly is free for google chrome. I wonder if a web page 
could be set up in which one could enter a lot of text. Then have grammarly 
check it. I never set up a page in which one can enter text, wonder how 
difficult it is?
I still can not find out how much it costs for the download application.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] grammarly software

[David Moore]

Hi!
I went to www.grammarly.com
And downloaded the app.
I can’t quite access everything to correct my mistakes, but it looks like it is 
a cloud storage for your documents with unlimited space. When I uploaded my 
article to Grammerly, it got saved in the Grammarly cloud service. I can get on 
any computer, and type that URL, and get access to the article I uploaded. You 
can create an account, and it looks like you can store all of your articles in 
a cloud service of Grammerly!
This is wild, please tell me if you figure out how to navigate through an 
article that you are writing in Grammerly, and how you get to the mistakes and 
how to correct them.
I want to use it free, I do not want to buy the premium. I did add it to Chrome 
as an extention. I am not sure what that will do LOL! I love learning about new 
services like this!
David Moore
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From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 6:18 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] grammarly software

Has anyone used this successfully? It looks like it what I need. both word 
and text assistant are a great help but not as detailed. Not sure how I did 
do it but I was able to upload my file on their web site. It gave me a list 
of the type of errors but not the actual text. It told me that I need some 
commas, two sentences are too long, a noun has the wrong plural and a list 
of other problems. I downloaded the app for windows and can not locate the 
charges for purchase.
it is at http://grammarly.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] facebook

[David Moore]

Hi Justin!
Type the URL:
m.facebook.com
You will be on the mobile site of Facebook, by far the easiest to use. Make 
sure you use IE 11. Other browsers do not render the mobile site quite right, 
and it is confusing. Just press e, for edit, and go into forms mode. You are in 
the search field. Just type a friend’s name and press enter. Press H for 
heading, and arrow down to the choices. Sometimes, there are some choices that 
is not your friend that has the same name. You will know which one is your 
friend, because it will not say add friend. That is the one you enter on!
Hope that helps!
David Moore
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From: Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] facebook

What's the easiest way for me to do a search on facebook of my friends? I
just keep coming up with people who I'm not friends with, and I'm not a
facebook junky.  

Justin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Maxamizing

[David Moore]

Wow,
Press CTRL+enter on close!
I never knew that! I love learning that; thanks so much for that!
David Moore
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From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Maxamizing

Hi Sugar,

Here's another way that you can try as well:
From: East, Robin
Folks, I received this from a co-worker and it works so very well.
If anyone finds that this does not work please notify me.
To make your windo maximized every time

- Open the IE 11 (or any other application window) and size the window to 
your
liking (in our case we want it maximized
Windows up arrow or alt + spacebar +x
Check to ensure by using JAWS + F10
arrow down to your application and it should say `maximized`
Then tap escape
- Now press ALT + spacebar (this will open up the System menu),
then arrow down until you hear `Close`
-, Press CTRL + Enter to close the program
- This will set the IE window (or any other selected application window) to
open at the maximized setting every time.
Robin East

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Sugar Lopez
To: jaws-users-list
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Maxamizing


Hi all

I lost the key on how to maximize the screen on windoes  and on outlook

Using windows 7, outlook and office 2010 on Jaws 14 and del desk top

Thanks for your help

Sugar





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with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer
every man."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth, it 
is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP Stream 11, 
and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a SSD drive, and I 
use my small External Drive for more space. I love them both, but I would go 
for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price. I have used it a lot for 
four years, and it still runs like a top. It origionally came with Windows 8.1, 
and I have kept up to date with the Creators update of win10 now on it.
David Moore
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From: net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own 
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may not 
have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but 
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.

-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very satisfied. 
> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most of 
> the time.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
> things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Tammy:
>>
>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
>> however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
>> assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
>> reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
>> the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
>> one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
>> cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
>> Jerry
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
>> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
>> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
>> questions;
>> 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
>> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
>> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
>> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
>> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
>> taking up space.
>>
>> These will do for a start.
>> Thanks for your input!
>>
>>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] A wrinkle on my "clickable" question yesterday

[David Moore]

Hi Pam!
Thanks so much. That works so much better in Firefox since I made the change!
David Moore
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From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A wrinkle on my "clickable" question yesterday

Jim,

To stop Firefox from excessively saying "Clickable", try the following:

Open a window in FireFox.
Open "Settings Center" by doing insert key plus 6.
under the"Web / HTML / PDFs"category, there is a subcategory labeled
"Miscellaneous"
Under"Miscellaneous"there is a setting labeled
"Indicate Element Attribute"
Unchecking this setting will stop Jaws from saying clickable.

Pam



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Pursley [jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A wrinkle on my "clickable" question yesterday

It's Firefox, not JAWS, that seems to find a clickable element at the
end of many sentences and at various parts of a web page. So I hit enter
and all of the other mouse click permutations I know and I do not get
carried to a new place.  A clickable dud.

I did an experiment.  I ran across a web page in FF that liberally
spread clickable around.  I copied the link to thepage andpasted it into
Ie11.  Nada.  Blessed silence save the text.

Any Firefoxers out there who can guide me to reining in he clickables on FF?

Tks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[David Moore]

Hi all,
This is how it is with me using Google Chrome. Now, if I use the mobile site, I 
definitely use IE 11, because the mobile site works great in that browser. 
However, the regular Facebook site works the best in Chrome. So, it depends on 
which Facebook site you get on. Chrome works so much better for the regular 
site, and IE 11 works so well with the mobile Facebook site.
David Moore
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From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 3:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

I wonder if it is the mobile version of FB that is the culprit; when using 
the regular version of Facebook, I have no problem with Chrome.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem


> Can you list what you turn off and where to find it?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Subash
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 5:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem
>
> Judy, I normally use IE for M.facebook, but I tried it with chrome and I
> find what IE shows as link, chrome shows as button.
> You are correct, no events button I see there.
> Also, I find some sites with radio buttons, check boxes and combo chrome 
> has
> lots of work to do for accessibility.
>
> On another note, because no one with sight is using my computer, I turn 
> off
> allot of the feature in internet explorer, like play annymation and show
> picture and the other stuff that would take time to load.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:03 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem
>
> I still did not get my question answered about the Events Link.  I cannot
> find it when using Google Chrome.  I also use m.facebook.com.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:59 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem
>
> That didn't work neither did shift enter or using the links list.  Keep 
> the
> ideas coming I will try all of them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem
>
> I wonder if moving cursor to the middle of the word "share" would do it, 
> or
> using the links list, as suggested in an earlier post.
>
>
>
> Judy
> sent from the U2 Mini
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dennis Long  <dennisl1...@gmail.com>
> To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> CC:
> Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:23 pm
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem
>
>>
>>
>> Hi, when on
>>
>> m.facebook.com
>>
>> you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The control and ALT keys, your bestfriend, part 3

[David Moore]

Thanks a lot, Jim!
I made a couple of changes in IE like you suggested, and it works much better. 
You are putting a lot of good stuff on here today!
Have a blessed one!
David Moore
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From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The control and ALT keys, your 
bestfriend, part 3

Hi Jaws users, this lesson mostly covers using Internet explorer with Jaws. 
This will be helpful for all the new Jaws users to the group.

Creators update, The Control and ALT keys, your best friend, part 3
This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group, anyone may 
freely share this file.
Author: Jim Flusche

This lesson has been updated to the W-10 Creators update.
This lesson mainly covers using Internet explorer with Jaws.

Let us start this lesson out, being focused on the Desktop, press Windows key+M.
Press the Home key, you should land on the, This PC icon, or whatever icon is 
first on your desktop.
**Press Control+Spacebar, to deselect the desktop icon, this keystroke will 
also select.
**Now press the Applications key.
For example on my computer, this is how I have things set up.
Press Control+Spacebar, you will hear, Not Selected This PC.
Press the Applications key, you will hear.
*Tip, your computer may have more or less items.
Context Menu To navigate press Up or Down Arrow, AMD VISION Engine Control 
Center.
Down arrow one time, View  sub menu.
Right arrow one time, you will hear, Large icons.
Down arrow through the list, you will hear.
Medium icons  checked.
Small icons.
Auto arrange icons  checked.
Align icons to grid  checked.
Show desktop icons  checked.
Now press the Left arrow key.
Down arrow to, Sort by  sub menu.
Press the Right arrow one time to, Name  checked.
Down arrow through this list, you will hear.
Size.
Item type.
Date modified.
You will wrap back around to Name  checked.
Now press the Left arrow key again.
Down arrow one time to, Refresh.
Down arrow again to, Paste  Unavailable.
Down arrow again to, Paste shortcut  Unavailable.
Down arrow again to, NVIDIA Control Panel.
Down arrow again to, New  sub menu.
Right arrow to, Folder.
Down arrow through this list, you will hear.
Shortcut.
Microsoft Access Database.
Bitmap image.
Contact.
Microsoft Word Document.
Microsoft Access Database.
Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation.
Microsoft Publisher Document.
Text Document.
Microsoft Excel Worksheet.
Compressed (zipped) Folder.
Press the Lef arrow back to, New  sub menu.
Press the Down arrow key to, Display settings.
Down arrow again to, Personalize.
*Tip, Pressing the Down arrow key again, will wrap you back around to the top 
of the list.
If you press Enter on Display settings, you will be taken to the display page 
in the settings area of W-10.
If you press Enter on Personalize, You will land in the search edit box, Tab 
one time to, background, under the personalization, main category in the 
settings area of W-10.

===
**Now open Internet Explorer on your computer.
**If you press ALT+A, you will land on the Ad to favorites button.
*Tip, After pressing ALT+A, pressing the Enter key two times, will ad the 
current internet Explorer page, to your favorites list in IE.
**For example: After pressing ALT+A, you will hear.
Add to favorites...
Down arrow one time, you will hear.
Add to Favorites bar.
*Tip, this will also save websites in a different folder for easy access.
Down arrow again, you will hear.
Organize favorites...
Down arrow again, you will hear.
Favorites Bar sub menu, press the Right arrow key one time, I hear the 
following on my computer.
NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League.
My Account.
My Microsoft Account.
**Now after pressing ALT+A, you can use first letter navigation to jump to any 
of your saved favorite web sites.
*Tip, if you only have one saved website with that letter, after pressing that 
letter, you will go to that website.
*Tip, if you have several websites starting with that letter, you will jump to 
the next saved one, each time you press that letter, press Enter to open that 
favorite website.
**After pressing ALT+A, you also can just down arrow to Favorites Bar sub menu, 
and press the Right arrow key, and Down arrow through the items on the 
Favorites Bar sub menu, press Enter to open.
**You can also press ALT+C, to open Favorites, tip, you may need to press this 
keystroke two times to open.
For example, after pressing ALT+C:
I landed on Favorites Bar Closed, 1 of 39.
I pressed the Right arrow key one time, Favorites Bar Opened, 3 items.
1 My Microsoft Account, 1 of 3.
My Account 2 of 3.
NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League 3 of 3.
I pressed the Up arrow to, Favorites Bar Opened, I press the Left arrow to 
close.
It now says, Favorites Bar Closed 1 of 39.
If I Down arrow one time, I will hear:
Accessible YouTube - YourTube 2 of 39.
If I just press the letter W, I will hear, windows-10-and-Jaws - Yahoo Groups

Re: [JAWS-Users] the archives

[David Moore]

Hi David!
I use the archives quite a bit. I have found so much help there. It is like a 
treasure trove of years of advice and help that I benefit from all the time. I 
hope we can spread the word that it is there for people to get many of their 
questions answered that have been asked many times in the past.
Have a great one.
David Moore
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From: David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the archives

I have no control over how it is managed. Since it is a free service I 
figure on taking what I can get.

-Original Message- 
From: Kavein Thran
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the archives

it up to a downloadable file?hello sir, I also used it sometimes, do
you think of any possibility of zipping

On 5/30/17, Lenny McHugh <lennymch...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have used it once or twice a few years ago. I actually forgot about it 
> or
>
> I would have used it for the network disabling emails that I lost a long
> time ago.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The applications key, your best friend

[David Moore]

Hi Jim,
Thanks a lot. I can always use a review. When I read your updated stuff, I 
realize that there are a few very powerful key commands that I have forgotten. 
Also, I realize that I have been doing tasks the long way, and you give a much 
shorter way to save time. Even for the advanced computer user, what you put 
together reminds me of stuff. For the beginner, I really encourage you to read 
everything Jim puts on here. You will be a power user before you know it. We 
are so blessed to have all of this information in one place. For example, on 
other lists, people are in a panic, because they do not know how to put a short 
cut on their desktop with Windows 10. There are many people who are really lost 
when using Windows 10, and they do not have access to this information. Tell 
everyone about this list. When I run into a Windows 10 question, I tell people 
about this list. I am so glad that you and Joseph have done so much to make 
Windows 10 the best OS for the blind yet.
Have a great one, guys!
David Moore
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From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The applications key, your best friend

Hi new Jaws users and current members of the Jaws users list, I have updated 
and added to this short lesson about the Applications key, your best friend, 
let me know what you think about it. Smiles.
Creators update, The application key, your best friend
This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group, all may 
freely share this text tutorial.
Author: Jim Flusche

This text file had now been Updated to the Creators update, new material had 
been added.
The applications key is your best friend in using W-10 with Jaws.
As you have read my complete guide, we use the applications key and its context 
menu to do many things in W-10.
For example:
*After pressing Windows key+T, takes you to the taskbar and its pinned items.
Use your right arrow to move to each pinned item on the Taskbar.
*If you wish to remove a pinned item from the Taskbar.
Highlight the item, Press the applications key, up arrow to unpin from Taskbar, 
press enter.
*If you wish to start over with the list of pinned items on the Taskbar.
Highlight them one by one, press the applications key, arrow up to unpin from 
the Taskbar, press enter.
*Now use the All apps list box, in the start button area, pin all items back to 
the Taskbar in the order you wish to have them.
How do I do this?
*Press the windows key or press enter on the start button, either press up or 
Down arrow or tab two times to, All Apps list box.
Use first letter navigation to jump through your list of all the apps and all 
the programs on your computer.
*Tip, you must have an app or program installed starting with a certain letter 
to use first letter navigation in the All Apps list box.
When you find a app or find a program you wish to pin to the Taskbar.
Highlight it, Press the applications key, down arrow to, more submenu, right 
arrow to, pin to the Taskbar, press enter.
Do this for all the items you wish to pin to the Taskbar.
I use the Taskbar pinned items a lot.
For example:
After you have pinned your items to the Taskbar, you now have shortcuts for all 
the pinned items on your Taskbar.
Just press the windows key with the number of the pinned item on the Taskbar to 
open that App or program.
For example, on my computer:
Pressing Windows key+1, opens Internet Explorer.
Pressing Windows key+2, opens Word 2016.
Pressing Windows key+3, opens Notepad.
Pressing Windows key+4, opens Outlook 2016.
Pressing Windows key+5, opens Control Panel.
Pressing Windows key+6, opens Windows defender security center.
Pressing Windows key+7, opens Jaws 17.
Pressing Windows key+8, opens Jaws 18.
Pressing Windows key+9, opens iTunes.
These are very handy shortcuts for opening your pinned apps or programs that 
you have pinned to the Taskbar.
*Using Quick access, pinned items.
*Now you can also use the Windows key+E, to bring up a list of items you have 
pinned to quick access.
Remember in W-10, we now have what is called, File explorer, desktop App.
You can set file explorer to open in Quick access or open in This PC.
I show you in the complete guide and in the audio lessons, why I use the file 
explorer to open in quick access.
How do I pin items to quick access?
The easiest way to do them at one time is to do the following.
Press enter on your This PC icon on the desktop.
Arrow down and highlight your C: drive.
Press Shift+Tab, you are in a tree view of all the stuff on your computer.
Use the right arrow to open any closed folder, use the left arrow to close any 
open folder.
*Press the applications key on any folder, file, drive, or location you wish to 
pin to quick access.
Arrow down to, pin to quick access, press enter.
Now where ever you are on your computer, when you press Windows key+E, you will 
open a list of pinned items that you have pinned to quick

Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

[David Moore]

Hi Dennis.
JAWS works very well with the latest version of iTunes. Jim Flusche, has two 
great audio tutorials on his group that he did on using iTunes with JAWS, and 
even navigating the store. I use iTunes all of the time to organize my music 
and to have great libraries of music. To get the tutorial, Join Jim’s list:
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in
JAWS 18 works the best.
David Moore
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From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

How accessible is I tunes with Jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Audio tutorials.

[David Moore]

Hi Anita,
Yes, there are many audio only tutorials, and daisy tutorials with audio and 
text.
Go to the URL:
www.freedomscientific.com
Go to the bottom of the page with CTRL+end.
Now, arrow up a few times until you get to training. Enter there, and you will 
see many tutorials and archived webinars that have been done over the years 
that will help you a lot to learn using JAWS in many different situations and 
in many programs.
David Moore
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From: Anita E
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Audio tutorials.

Hi list,
Are there audio tutorials available for Jaws or only tx/t HTML?
Thanks,
Anita


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Re: [JAWS-Users] W-10 and Jaws Creators update complete guide

[David Moore]

Thanks Jim!
Excellent!
David Moore
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From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] W-10 and Jaws Creators update complete guide

Hi Jaws users list. I tried 11 times to update my Acer computer to the creators 
update, but the drivers were just not available to update that computer. But a 
nice Christian person bought me this Lenovo computer,
I was able to manually update the the creators update the first time. So here 
is my guide for the Creators update, please enjoy! Smiles.

Windows 10 and Jaws, Creators  update complete guide.
This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group, this guide 
may be freely shared with anyone.
Author: Jim Flusche

This guide is now updated to the latest Creators update for W-10, using Jaws 18.

General Overview, Customizing, Navigation, and learning about w-10 with Jaws.

Here is a Complete Index of this guide and what it covers.
All sections start with , that is four *'s in a row.
Important reminders.
Section, Cortana and search settings.
Section, Customizing Windows 10 with Jaws.
Setting default programs in w-10.
Changing your folder options, now called File Explorer Options, in w-10.
How to Turn off the background apps in w-10.
How to change how Windows updates are delivered.
Pinned Tiles list box.
All Apps list box.
How to put the, This PC, Icon on the Desktop.
How to put a shortcut to your user folders, on the Desktop.
Making Program shortcut Icons, on your Desktop.
How to put a shortcut, for iE on your Desktop and Taskbar.
Miscellaneous.
Making your W-10 desktop look like W-7.
The Notification area and the Notification Chevron button.
Tip for navigating the W-10 desktop:
W-10 Context Menu.
How to pin, Apps or pin Programs to the pinned Tiles list box, of the Start 
area or to the Taskbar.
How to create a Desktop shortcut for a program in the All Apps list box.
How to uninstall Apps and Programs in W-10.
The Power button in the Start area of W-10.
Customizing the Start Area in W-10 with Jaws.
Personalizing the Start Area in W-10.
The all Apps list box.
The Power button under the Start list box, under the Start button area of 
W-10.
Maintenance tips for Windows 10 with Jaws.
Using Quick Access in Windows 10 with Jaws
So, how do I set my W-10 computer to open using File explorer Quick access.
How to pin items to Quick Access:
How to pin, This PC to Quick access.
How to pin Quick Access to the Start area.
How to create a desktop icon, for all the W-10 built-in app
How to update all your W-10 apps at one time.
Two ways of doing a Jaws repair on your W-10 computer.
Device Manager.
Devices and Printers.
Using and setting up OneDrive on your computer.
How to do a System Restore in W-10 with Jaws.
How to read or listen to bookshare books with F S Reader 2.0 and 3.0.


Important reminders.
*A Change to starting Narrator, Press Control+Windows+Enter, to turn/off 
narrator in the Creators update.
There have been changes to how we use the Settings area, in the Creators update 
to W-10.
After pressing Windows key+I, you now land in the search edit box of the 
settings area.
With Jaws 18, just start typing an item you are looking for, press the Down 
arrow key to hear the results.
After pressing Windows+I, Just tab one time to the main list of 11 categories.
Again after pressing enter on one of the 11 main categories, you land on the 
search edit box, just tab one time to the list of sub-categories, for that 
selected main category.
Remember the first sub-category is already highlighted for you, just begin 
tabbing across the tab controls.
*Tip, always press the Insert+Tab keys, to make Jaws speak just the tab control 
and its current setting.
*Tip, you can press Shift+PC curser to turn on the touch curser while in the 
settings area, pressing the PC curser two times quickly turns the PC curser 
back on.
*Remember, From the list of sub-categories, if you down arrow past the first 
item, to any other sub-category, you must press the enter key first, to 
highlight that sub-category, before you can begin tabbing across the tab 
controls for that sub-category.
More reminders:
The Start button area.
After pressing the Windows key or pressing enter on the Start button.
1. You will land in the search edit box.
Just begin typing what you are looking for, use the arrow keys to find it, 
press enter to open it.
2. Tab one time to,the Start list box, you will hear, Toggle Start navigation 
menu items 1 of 6.
*Here you will find your account picture, folder shortcuts, and the power 
button, go to Settings/personalization/ press enter on Start, to ajust the 
start area.
3. Tab a second time to, All Apps list box.
This is a list of all the apps and programs on your computer.
*Tip, after pressing the Windows key

Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes Keyboard Shortcuts, Full List & URL

[David Moore]

Thanks Mike!
I use iTunes, and I did not know all of these shortcuts!
David Moore
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From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes Keyboard Shortcuts, Full List & URL

Hi All,

Here y'all go:


iTunes Keyboard Shortcuts

https://support.apple.com/kb/PH20337?locale=en_US

iTunes for Windows: iTunes keyboard shortcuts

You can use keyboard shortcuts to quickly accomplish many tasks in iTunes. 
To find the shortcuts for common commands, look in the iTunes menus, or use
the table below as a reference.

Many items in the iTunes window (for example, songs and column headings) 
also have shortcut menus that let you do tasks quickly. To see a shortcut 
menu,
right-click the item.

To turn on full keyboard navigation, choose Edit > Preferences, click 
General, and select "Enable full keyboard navigation."

Some screen readers override keyboard combinations built into iTunes; check 
the screen reader documentation for instructions on customizing key 
combinations.


Play music, video, and more

table with 2 columns and 14 rows
Action

Shortcut

Start or stop playing the selected song

Space Bar

Play the currently selected song

Enter

Move forward or backward within a song

Control-Alt-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

Listen to the next or previous album in a list

Shift-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

Go to the next or previous song in a list

Left Arrow or Right Arrow (or click the Skip Forward or Skip Backward 
controls in the upper-left corner of the iTunes window)

Show the currently playing song in the list

Control-L

When a song is playing, play the next song in a list

Right Arrow

When a song is playing, play the previous song in a list

Left Arrow

Increase the volume

Control-Up Arrow

Decrease the volume

Control-Down Arrow

Mute the sound (song keeps playing)

Control-Alt-Down Arrow

Go to the next or last chapter (if available)

Control-Shift-Right Arrow or Left Arrow

Stream audio file at a specific URL to iTunes

Control-U
table end

Create and manage playlists

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Action

Shortcut

Create a new playlist

Control-N

Create a playlist from a selection of songs

Control-Shift-N

Create a new Smart Playlist

Control-Alt-N

Refresh the Radio list (when Radio is selected)

F5

Refresh a Genius Playlist (when the playlist is selected)

F5
table end

Manage your iTunes library and media files

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Action

Shortcut

Add a file to your music library

Control-O

Show where a song file is located

Control-R

Select the search field

Control-F

Edit the name of the currently selected item

F2

Undo your last typing change while still in edit mode

Control-Z

Cut the selected song's information or artwork

Control-X

Copy the selected song's information or artwork

Control-C

Paste the selected song's information or artwork

Control-V

Choose artwork for the selected video

While the video is playing, Control-click the movie, and choose Set Poster 
Frame

Select or deselect all the songs in a list

Control-click the checkbox next to a song

Select all the songs in the list

Control-A

Deselect all the songs in the list

Control-Shift-A
table end

Change what you see

table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Action

Shortcut

Switch to the MiniPlayer

Control-Shift-M

Enter or exit full-screen view

Control-Shift-F

Open the song or CD Info window for the selected song or CD

Control-I

In the Info window, see the info for the next or previous song in the list

Alt-N or Alt-P

See more options when a visual effect is showing

Press ?, then press the indicated key to use an option (not all visual 
effects support this)

Close the iTunes window

Control-W

Show or hide the Column Browser

Control-B

Turn the visualizer on or off

Control-T

Switch between viewing visual effects using the entire screen or in the 
iTunes window (when visualizer is on)

Control-Shift-F

Open the View Options window for the selected source

Control-J

Expand or collapse all the triangles in the Radio's Stream list

Control-click a triangle

Refresh source list

F5
table end

Find items in the iTunes Store

table with 2 columns and 7 rows
Action

Shortcut

Go to the next page in the iTunes Store

Control-Right Bracket ( ] )

Go to the previous page in the iTunes Store

Control-Left Bracket ( [ )

Check for new podcast episodes (when Podcasts is selected)

F5

Initiate a search in the iTunes Store (from anywhere in iTunes)

Type in Search field and press Shift-Return

Open the Store menu

Alt-S

Check for app updates (when Apps is selected)

F5
table end

Other shortcuts

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Action

Shortcut

Prevent iPod, iPhone, or iPad from automatically syncing when you connect it 
to your computer

Control-Shift as you connect the device to your computer (hold the keys down 
until the device appears in the iTunes window)

Open iTunes Preferences

Control-Comma

Eject a CD

Contr

Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up sam encoder with Jaws on a laptop with nonumpad

[David Moore]

Yes,
I use the laptop layout with JAWS all the time. We need to know which numpad 
commands you need to use, and then I can give you the laptop equivalent 
commands.
For example, numpad enter is the same as regular enter. With the laptop layout 
turned on, you can use the caps lock as well as insert. You can use both. Caps 
lock+comma reads the current character. Caps lock+K reads the current word and 
so on.
David Moore
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From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up sam encoder with Jaws on a laptop with 
nonumpad

That's what the list is trying to find out, what commands?  Are they 
checkboxes, radio buttons, comboboxes, buttons, left / right mouse clicks, 
or do they require a 2 or 5 pound ball-peen hammer?  LOL
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mike Bernard
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up sam encoder with Jaws on a laptop with 
no numpad


He needs the commands that allow you to select mp3 and mp3 pro, and the
command that allows you to click on the ok button to get to the
configuration window, where you can select server details, archive streaming
Etc. The only problem is, the keyboard on his Acer machine doesn't come with
a numpad.
Mike

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up sam encoder with Jaws on a laptop with
no numpad

Hi Mike,

What keystrokes does your friend need from the numpad?  Jaws has, numpad
equivalent keystrokes for laptop users that don't have numpads, but since I
don't know didley about using a laptop I can't help y'all with the correct
keystrokes.  If you post what you need I'm sure someone will be able to come

through with the keystrokes needed.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mike Bernard
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting up sam encoder with Jaws on a laptop with no
numpad


Hello everyone,

I'm helping a friend to setup the sam encoders using Jaws. But his Laptop
has no numpad. Therefore, he can't select mp3 and mp3 pro and press the ok
button to select it. Any ideas as to how to get around this?

Mike



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Demo Version of Jaws was turn off function keys?

[David Moore]

Hi,
That is correct. You can even tandum to another computer using JAWS with a demo 
version.
David Moore
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From: Scorpio
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Demo Version of Jaws was turn off function keys?

As far as I know, a demo version is a fully functioning version of Jaws, the 
only limit is the forty minute mode, but other than that, you should be able 
to change the settings, save those changes and the like and continue using 
it in forty minute mode until you get the unlock code.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

...then you will not have much success, my friend.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am still waiting for the unlock key.
but if these options do not work as a demo it does not  give me any messages
that it is not supported. the changes show they have been saved. but the
muted
keys still talk as a standard user. but not logged in as administrator,
which i
do not want to do because of viruses.
-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
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From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[David Moore]

Hi Justin,
JAWS 15-18 has the touch cursor!
David Moore
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From: Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Is this JAWS 18?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use the 
keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn on the 
touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the right on a 
touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer for this to work. 
Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you to access many controls 
that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. You can 
press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on the toolbars of MS word, for 
example. The touch cursor does not show up in JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer 
> <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>
>
> Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> Mobile:
>
> + 61 435 892 944
>
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

[David Moore]

Hi Tom,
The command:
Windows key+pause will bring up all of that information!
David Moore
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From: Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

 what are the jaws keystrokes to check what size hard drive is on my
laptop? jaws 17, vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[David Moore]

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use the 
keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn on the 
touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the right on a 
touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer for this to work. 
Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you to access many controls 
that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. You can 
press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on the toolbars of MS word, for 
example. The touch cursor does not show up in JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC 
cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe 
twice. I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>
>
> Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> Mobile:
>
> + 61 435 892 944
>
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[David Moore]

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor. 
 
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I donn’t 
> use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
> 
> 
> Thanks for any answers.
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Mobile:
> 
> + 61 435 892 944
> 
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
> 
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New computer, Creators update

[David Moore]

Wow, Jim,
That sounds like a great computer. I have never heard of a Hard drive and a SSD 
drive working together. Is Windows on the harddrive, but then the SSD drive 
allows Windows to load faster?
Does anything permantly stay on the SSD drive, or is it just a dump drive to 
allow processes to occur faster? Wow, sounds great. I have just a SSD drive on 
this little HP laptop I use, and I love it. When I use my other laptop with the 
Regular Hard drive, I get so impatient, because it takes so much longer for 
processes to occur. I am so happy for you!
David Moore
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From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New computer, Creators update

Good evening Jaws users group. I have a new computer I wanted to let you know 
about. At first, I was not sure how Jaws would work with a hybrid drive. But 
Jaws 18 works fantastic with one. I finally upgraded the new computer today to 
the creators update. Read the computer information below, before now I always 
used an Acer computer. But this Lenovo start fast. After pressing the power 
button in about 4 or 5 seconds, Jaws comes up talking on the pin log-in screen. 
I bought this desktop on sale at best buy for $579, this was a bargan.
Name: Lenovo-710-25ISH Desktop (ideacentre)
System
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz 2.71 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
This has a one TB of storage, regular Sodda drive.
This also has a 8 GB's SSD drive.
They call it a hybred drive.
Having the SSD drive allows for fast start up, very fast.
They work together, when doing a big task, information is dumped to the SSD 
drive, and than converted back to the regular drive.
This is the best way I can explain it.
The computer works fantastic and the computer is very quick.
I highly recommend this computer to anyone who is looking for a new computer. 
Smiles.

>From your humble Pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws group.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

[David Moore]

Hi George!
I see no actions needed, but I did not think that had anything to do with 
Defender. I did not know what that meant. If that is what Defender says in the 
creators update, than I am fine.
I did not know that was what Defender says in Creators update. Thanks a lot.
David Moore
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From: TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

Maria,
I guess you are running the Creator, if it was the Anniversary it would say, 
pc status windows defender periodic scanning ON.
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

I did all that and I see it on the system tray but it says no action needed 
rather than pc protected.  Better anyway.  Thanks.


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On 5/14/2017 10:03 PM, inamuddin wrote:
> Dear friends,
> Press win+I for setting, use right arrow until personalization and hit enter 
> there.
> Now tab key one time and press end key for taskbar and hit enter there.
> Now keep pressing tab key until your Jaws say select which icons appear on 
> taskbar link press enter there.
> Now press tab key until windows defender and press spacebar now press tab 
> key until home button press spacebar and press alt+f4 your problem will 
> solve.
> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
> Charlsdarwin1
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of David Moore
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:01 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray
>
> Hi Maria,
> I have the creators update, and my status of my Window's Defender does not 
> show in my system tray either. I have wondered this myself, and just have 
> not gotten around to asking about it. This is a great question. It must have 
> something to do with the fact that Defender is now a security center, but I 
> do not know why it does not show up in our system trays though. I hope that 
> someone can answer this.
> Have a great one.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Maria Campbell
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:44 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray
>
> For anyone using the Creator's upgrade, is Windows defender supposed to show 
> up on system tray as protecting PC?  Mine is not.
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

[David Moore]

Hi Jorge!
I will play around with this!
Have a great one.
David Moore
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From: TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

David,
Try the windows B and play with the option with your up/down arrow and open 
the notification button
The notes that were posted earlier looked ok...

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

Hi Maria,
I have the creators update, and my status of my Window's Defender does not 
show in my system tray either. I have wondered this myself, and just have not 
gotten around to asking about it. This is a great question. It must have 
something to do with the fact that Defender is now a security center, but I do 
not know why it does not show up in our system trays though. I hope that 
someone can answer this.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

For anyone using the Creator's upgrade, is Windows defender supposed to show 
up on system tray as protecting PC?  Mine is not.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

[David Moore]

Thanks a lot for that!
I will do that right now.
Really appreciate it.
David Moore
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From: inamuddin
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

Dear friends,
Press win+I for setting, use right arrow until personalization and hit enter 
there.
Now tab key one time and press end key for taskbar and hit enter there.
Now keep pressing tab key until your Jaws say select which icons appear on 
taskbar link press enter there.
Now press tab key until windows defender and press spacebar now press tab key 
until home button press spacebar and press alt+f4 your problem will solve.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


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Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

Hi Maria,
I have the creators update, and my status of my Window’s Defender does not show 
in my system tray either. I have wondered this myself, and just have not gotten 
around to asking about it. This is a great question. It must have something to 
do with the fact that Defender is now a security center, but I do not know why 
it does not show up in our system trays though. I hope that someone can answer 
this.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

For anyone using the Creator's upgrade, is Windows defender supposed to show up 
on system tray as protecting PC?  Mine is not.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

[David Moore]

Hi Maria,
I have the creators update, and my status of my Window’s Defender does not show 
in my system tray either. I have wondered this myself, and just have not gotten 
around to asking about it. This is a great question. It must have something to 
do with the fact that Defender is now a security center, but I do not know why 
it does not show up in our system trays though. I hope that someone can answer 
this.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows defender on system tray

For anyone using the Creator's upgrade, is Windows defender supposed to 
show up on system tray as protecting PC?  Mine is not.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

[David Moore]

I am so sorry about that! I was thinking downloads, but I said favorites by 
mistake. You are correct. CTRL+J brings up your downloads you have done with 
Chrome.
Thank you for correcting my mistake.
David Moore
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From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

Control plus J takes me to downloads not favorites.


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On 5/13/2017 6:52 PM, David Moore wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> Same here!
> I use Chrome more than the other browsers for the same reasons you said. I 
> stream a lot of TV and other media, and Chrome does not lock up or crash like 
> IE or even Firefox for me anyway. I am so happy you are using chrome. I like 
> that that everything is under one menu, the Chrome menu. The settings page is 
> navigated just like a web page. CTRL+J let’s you go to your favorites. I am 
> just letting the rest of you know this, if you haven’t switched to Chrome 
> yet. My pages that are full of media and many links load so much faster for 
> me. Have a great one, guys,
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Tim Ford
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 6:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers
>
> Okay, here is one old JAWS user's opinion.
>
> I  Am now using Chrome as my primary browser.  Things load more reliably,
> fewer lockups, more stable streaming video.  It was a long time coming for
> me to make the switch, but I just found more and more times ending up having
> to use Chrome because IE and Firefox were mis-firing.  Yes, Chrome does
> operate differently and takes a bit of time to get used to, but for purposes
> of reading what is on the web page, Chrome works the same with JAWS
> navigation as is the case for IE or Firefox.  In fact, my transition to
> Chrome started by my having links in emails open in Chrome, since that
> provided me with the web page all ready to read.  From there over time I
> learned the other basics such as saving favorites, and about a month ago
> realized that Chrome had become my general use browser, so I made the final
> switch and Chrome is now the default browser for all purposes.
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:25 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers
>
> I haven't used Chrome much, but I find using Firefox to be a lot like using
> IE. Some commands and menu options are differently named, but it doesn't
> take long to get used to. For example, the command to go to a URL is
> CONTROL-L as opposed to CONTROL-O as is the case with IE.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:36 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] browsers
>
>
>> Hi, I've always and still do use Internet Explorer and have the latest one
>> 11. I have come across occasionally a couple web sites that don't support
>> it
>> and want you to use either Firefox or Google chrome. Which of these is
>> easier to use and is more accessible to us? Thanks. Judy & aLibby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

[David Moore]

Hi Tim,
Same here!
I use Chrome more than the other browsers for the same reasons you said. I 
stream a lot of TV and other media, and Chrome does not lock up or crash like 
IE or even Firefox for me anyway. I am so happy you are using chrome. I like 
that that everything is under one menu, the Chrome menu. The settings page is 
navigated just like a web page. CTRL+J let’s you go to your favorites. I am 
just letting the rest of you know this, if you haven’t switched to Chrome yet. 
My pages that are full of media and many links load so much faster for me. Have 
a great one, guys,
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tim Ford
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

Okay, here is one old JAWS user's opinion.

I  Am now using Chrome as my primary browser.  Things load more reliably,
fewer lockups, more stable streaming video.  It was a long time coming for
me to make the switch, but I just found more and more times ending up having
to use Chrome because IE and Firefox were mis-firing.  Yes, Chrome does
operate differently and takes a bit of time to get used to, but for purposes
of reading what is on the web page, Chrome works the same with JAWS
navigation as is the case for IE or Firefox.  In fact, my transition to
Chrome started by my having links in emails open in Chrome, since that
provided me with the web page all ready to read.  From there over time I
learned the other basics such as saving favorites, and about a month ago
realized that Chrome had become my general use browser, so I made the final
switch and Chrome is now the default browser for all purposes.

Tim Ford


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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

I haven't used Chrome much, but I find using Firefox to be a lot like using
IE. Some commands and menu options are differently named, but it doesn't
take long to get used to. For example, the command to go to a URL is
CONTROL-L as opposed to CONTROL-O as is the case with IE.

Andy

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] browsers


> Hi, I've always and still do use Internet Explorer and have the latest one
> 11. I have come across occasionally a couple web sites that don't support 
> it
> and want you to use either Firefox or Google chrome. Which of these is
> easier to use and is more accessible to us? Thanks. Judy & aLibby
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[JAWS-Users] Official JAWS version 18 coming out at 10:00 A.M. this morning

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I wanted to let you know that the official JAWS version 18 is coming out for 
download at 10:00 A.M. this morning. It is ready, because the beta versions 
have been so good. We will have the audio ducking, where all noises get quieter 
so you can hear JAWS. Also, the mail app works very well with JAWS 18. I can 
help you guys with the mail app, and all other win10 apps. Get ready, and be by 
your computers at 10:00 A.M.
Here we go, a new version of JAWS is on the way. Also, by winter, there will be 
a JAWS update to 18 that will make Edge totally accessible. Have a great one.
David Moore
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Any Tips for Using Windows Live Mail with JAWS v17?

[David Moore]

Hi Sherrie,
The default app for win10 is just the mail app. Just press the windows key 
and type mail in the search edit, and press enter and the mail app will 
open. You can go to settings by tabbing, and set up your account by just 
typing in the email and password. For WLM, it works great with JAWS 17. You 
must now, at this point, import the MS email accounts like Outlook, and 
Hotmail, for example, into WLM as IMAP accounts. You can still use these MS 
accounts in WLM if you import them into WLM as IMAP accounts by putting in 
the right port information and such. I have a tutorial about doing that if 
anyone would like it.

David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Sherri

Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 10:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Any Tips for Using Windows Live Mail with JAWS 
v17?


Stupid question--wht is the default mail app for Windows 10? I'm just
curious.
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From: "Kenny" <kwashingtonl...@gmail.com>

To: "JAWS Users List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Any Tips for Using Windows Live Mail with JAWS v17?


Hello,

Even though I do like how well JAWS v17 works with the default Mail app for
Windows 10, I still gave the Windows Live Mail application a try. It seems
to work even better with JAWS, and offers a whole lot more bells and
whistles (News reader, Podcast and RSS feeds etc.).

Are there any FS (Or user) tutorials out there giving tips on how to
interact with WLM using JAWS? Maybe a list of all available keyboard
shortcuts.

One of the things I did like with the default mail app is that it gave you
the number of replies for a particular thread in the subject line. WLM doesn’t
seem to do that. Is there a way of enabling this?

Also does WLM offer a message view pain. Meaning as you arrow through the
list of message subjects, a portion of the associated message body will be
shown in a view window pain. If WLM does offer such a feature, how do I turn
it on.

I’m very surprised that MS stop development on WLM for it seems to be much
more advanced then the new Mail app they’ve replaced it with.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 18 Public Beta

[David Moore]

Hi all,
With the mouse echo feature, it is best if you go to the ease of access 
settings group in the settings app and go to mouse. In the mouse settings 
there, you can check two check boxes. The first, is to use the numb pad to 
move the mouse pointer. The other important setting you want to check, is 
the one that says to move the mouse pointer when the numb lock is turned on. 
That way, you can still turn the numb pad lock off and use it with JAWS 
commands like always. Just turn the numb lock on, to move the mouse up, 
down, right and left with the arrow keys on the numb pad. If you hold down 
one of the numb pad arrow keys, JAWS will speak what the mouse pointer goes 
over. The mouse pad is not working that well for me either. To be able to 
have the mouse pointer move and speak what is under it, will be very huge 
once the kinks are out of it. That will really help, though, if you turn the 
numb lock on, and move the mouse that way after making the changes in the 
mouse settings in the ease of access settings.
Take care, all, and I really like version 18 already, and this is just beta 
one.

David Moore


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Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:10 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 18 Public Beta

Hi friends,

Just downloaded it for testing.
One of the features, mouse echo looks fantastic - just I can't get it to 
work at the moment :)

With the touch pad on my laptop anyway :)





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Re: [JAWS-Users] web site that converts youtube videos

[David Moore]

Hi all,
If you mean converting Youtube videos into an audio MP3 file, here are two 
great web sites. The first URL is much better.

URL one:
www.convert2mp3.net
It might be in German, so arrow down the page until you hear a link that 
sounds like english and press enter on that, and you can use it in English. 
It will convert 90 minute videos into MP3.

URL Two:
www.youtube-mp3.org
That one will convert 20 minute videos.
For longer videos, you will need a program like free-make video which is 
free.

David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Justin Williams

Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web site that converts youtube videos

What do you mean by converting youtube videos.
Justin

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Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web site that converts youtube videos

I just stumbled across another one of these services this morning and 
figured on passing along the information.


http://www.keepvid.com/

Just paste the link of your youtube video in the edit field and shift tab 
once to the button that will start the process. Then just download the file. 
I am currently downloading a file over 1.6 GB in size so I figure it is safe 
to say they don’t seem to impose a limit on length of the video.

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Facebook used with JAWS, will now describe pictures people post with alt text!

[David Moore]

Hi all,
Listen to this.
I was just on Facebook with JAWS, and I noticed that the pictures people post 
were being described a bit with alt text. You do not get a lot of description, 
but I heard something like: may contain two people smiling clos up, or Two 
people standing in nature and one is smiling. I think this is so great that 
this alt text can now do this in Facebook. Check it out. I use the mobile web 
site of Facebook.
David Moore
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Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc help

[David Moore]

Hi,
Here is the link for everything VLC!
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html
Take care,
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Gary Jackson

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vlc help


Hello all,

Where can I get instructions, keystrokes, and/ or helpful hints for the vlc 
media player.


Thanks, Gary
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Re: [JAWS-Users] EASI Free Webinar: Windows 10 and Accessability

[David Moore]

Thank you very much. I will have to check this out.
David Moore


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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] EASI Free Webinar: Windows 10 and Accessability 


FYI...
EASI Free Webinar: Windows 10 and Accessability
Presenter: Karen McCall
August 25 at 11 Pacific, noon Mountain, 1 Central and 2 Eastern Windows 10
has returned the start menu after its removal in Windows 8. 
It is richer and more complex than Windows 7 start menu. There are also

several new features which will be explained.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] online backup services

[David Moore]

Hi,
One Drive and Google Drive are both very accessible. Google Drive gives you 
15 gig of storage. One Drive, only gives you 5 gig of storage. Of course, 
this is if you do not want to pay money. There are small fees to get much 
more storage with both One Drive and Google Drive. The same thing holds for 
Drop Box.

Take care.
David Moore


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From: Justin Williams

Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] online backup services

Which online service is most accessible?  I've got drobox, and I'm about to
upgrade, but I just decided to ask all of you for some advice first. How
accessible is one drive?  I noticed that one of us used that for file
sharing.

I'm usine jaws 16, and windows 10.

Thanks,

Justin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

[David Moore]

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, and 
most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open Office, but it 
was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office is. Take care.

David Moore


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From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] bible program with jaws

[David Moore]

Hi Emanuel,
You do not need any JAWS scripts for the program. It works great right out 
of the box!

Take care and God bless.
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Emanuel

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bible program with jaws

I  will download it now   can I use jaws scripts to it ?

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Hi,
I just downloaded the On Line Bible, and I like it better than the Theofolus 
Bible program. This looks great, Emanuel.

David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Emanuel

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] bible program with jaws

I  dont  find  Theophuous Bible in internet

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Theophuous Bible

Regards,
Godwin Adoyi
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Skype: Gadoyi
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What kind of  bible program work with jaws 16 and   windows 7 pro?


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