RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-17 Thread marc fleury
ndrew Scherpbier'; JBoss Development |Subject: RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs | | |On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Jason Dillon wrote: | |> Makming a .deb (or a .rpm) for JBoss means that installs on platforms for |> which those formats are supoported (or the default) wil

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-17 Thread Anders Dahlberg
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "JBoss Development" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs > Makming a .deb (or a .rpm) for JBoss means that installs on platforms for > which those formats a

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-17 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Jason Dillon wrote: > Makming a .deb (or a .rpm) for JBoss means that installs on platforms for > which those formats are supoported (or the default) will become much easier. > While it is true that the current .zip or .tgz formats are simple to use, > some folks simply prefe

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-17 Thread Jason Dillon
e- > > From: Andrew Scherpbier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:59 PM > > To: JBoss Development > > Subject: Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs > > > > > > Sorry to bud in here, but I think this statem

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-16 Thread marc fleury
|> |For JBoss.org, this is perfectly acceptable. However, for the |> |real upload to |> |Debian, this won't work, as I have said previously. |> |> Then you are shit out of luck kid, | |Huh? Debian's "reasons" for not allowing free/non-free software in their distros ranks about 0.002 on my scale

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-16 Thread Adam Heath
yOn Fri, 16 Nov 2001, marc fleury wrote: > |For JBoss.org, this is perfectly acceptable. However, for the > |real upload to > |Debian, this won't work, as I have said previously. > > Then you are shit out of luck kid, Huh? ___ Jboss-development mail

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-16 Thread marc fleury
|For JBoss.org, this is perfectly acceptable. However, for the |real upload to |Debian, this won't work, as I have said previously. Then you are shit out of luck kid, marcf | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Jason Dillon wrote: > I thought you said that there were .debs available for the thirdparty stuff > already. Perhaps I misunderstood. For some stuff, but not all. > Is it possible to upload non-free stuff to debian at all? If not, then this > is wasted effort as JBoss wil

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Jason Dillon
> > Can you continue based on the current build, simply pretent that the > > non-free stuff isn't there and will be required. Todo this simply > > 'build/build.sh', then remove the non-free stuff (and document that for me) > > and go about your biz. Once I have time and can figure out a way to >

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Adam Heath
yOn Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > I don't think my statement was harsh. I run Debian on some of my servers, > and always wondered why people bitched about Debian. Now I know. People run redhat. People bitch. People switch to Debian. People bitch. People join Debian. Debian maint

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Jason Dillon wrote: > > cvs co jboss-all > > cd jboss-all > > # this gives jboss*, plus tools and thirdparty. > > ant build free-dist > > # This creates zips/tars of everything BUT tools/thirdparty. > > ant build nonfree-dist > > # This creates zips/tars of tools/thirdparty.

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Jason Dillon
> I want the 'free' zip/tar to be available for download from jboss.org, so that > I can reference an md5sum for it, to show that I haven't modified the code. If we seperate the thirdparty, then this will be the case... though you MUST have the required thirdparty versions at the correct version

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Dain Sundstrom wrote: > No wonder people bitch about Debian. People don't need licensing issues to bitch about debian. Hell, even the developers bitch about the inane problems that occur. Alot of this hardship stems from the fact that, in reality, Debian is a political org

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Jason Dillon wrote: > Woah... this is a bit much for me to troll over at the moment... but here > are some comments based on a brief look. Yeah, it took quite a bit to write as well. I've spent quite a bit of time today in email, not getting much real coding work done. :(

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread David Jencks
Ease up. I at least am relying on Marc's assurances that his (or JBoss Group's) lawyer checked out the licensing issues and we are ok. Issues with debian licensing policies are, well, periferal. It's pretty easy to get jboss as is, a debian packaging would be kind of nice but I don't see it as

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Dain Sundstrom
t ever you want. -dain > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Scherpbier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:59 PM > To: JBoss Development > Subject: Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs > > > Sorry to bud in here, but I

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Andrew Scherpbier
Sorry to bud in here, but I think this statement is a little harsh. I think these licensing issues that Adam raises are very relevant to all of the JBoss project! JBoss is licensed under LGPL, right? So does JBoss include JAXP? If not, then it certainly shouldn't be part of the source distri

Re: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Jason Dillon
Woah... this is a bit much for me to troll over at the moment... but here are some comments based on a brief look. First, I don't really care about the details of debian stuff. If you do that is greate. Sounds like we need to split up these non-free bits from the free bits. I am all for tha

RE: LONG: RE: [JBoss-dev] can't build jboss from cvs

2001-11-15 Thread Dain Sundstrom
No wonder people bitch about Debian. I vote we forget the DEB and just build an RMP, which Debian can install. -dain > -Original Message- > From: Adam Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:20 PM > To: Jason Dillon > Cc: David Maplesden; JBoss Development