on 1-06-26 16.38, Jay Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> the tool really needs to maintain consistency.
Good point - very good point indeed - kind of goes without saying - now -
that You did ;-) - really - lets try keep things consistent, simple, lean
and mean ...
/peter
on 1-06-26 16.23, Jay Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't edit my xml by hand or by tool, I generate it!
Cool - that rules ... and can be utilised by many if it has a userfriendly
UI in front ... I would say a generator is a tool - together with a facade -
it is the future ...
/peter
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jay Walters wrote:
> I don't edit my xml by hand or by tool, I generate it!
That's not always realistic. It works great if you're wri
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From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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on 1-06-26 15.13, Jay Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You guys wouldn't want to
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jay Walters wrote:
> I don't edit my xml by hand or by tool, I generate it!
That's not always realistic. It works great if you're writing new
code for JBoss only, but if you have a pile of existing WebLogic JARs, or
you're not free to add arbitrary JavaDoc tags or wh
on 1-06-26 15.13, Jay Walters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You guys wouldn't want to hear my stories... suffice it to say I agree that
> if you can't understand to edit the properties files by hand you probably
> shouldn't be editing them with a GUI... It can be a checkbox on a feature
> list
I don't edit my xml by hand or by tool, I generate it!
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From: Aaron Mulder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:14 AM
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On Tue, 2
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jay Walters wrote:
> You guys wouldn't want to hear my stories... suffice it to say I agree that
> if you can't understand to edit the properties files by hand you probably
> shouldn't be editing them with a GUI...
That's a much different assertion than "there shooul
it feels wrong!-)
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From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Dude, GUI tools suck. Just edit the xml by hand. IMO if a person can&
We are beating a dead horse...
We are all aware of the importance of GUIs (for better or worse)
|BEA Weblogic (I can only speak for 5) has a poor GUI moslty only
|showing values but with no administration.
|
|IBM Websphere (I can only speak for 3) has a relatively good GUI with
|administration bu
Hi Geeks
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> >So that will mark the end of its life in JBoss, it is free to come back
as
> &g
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> I was just picking a fight :)
>
OK, I just discarded my rant-mail.
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> EJX and XML)
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>
> Oh man
>
> How short sighted you are. I aggree when you are a J2EE
> programmer then you don't need a GUI but the most future
> administrator of JBoss don't know J2EE well en
on 1-06-25 22.26, Dain Sundstrom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dude, GUI tools suck. Just edit the xml by hand. IMO if a person can't edit
> xml they shouldn't be configuring the server or ejb-jar.
Yes exactly - throw out Gnome and the like alltogether - U are using Lynx
reading this and the ear
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> Subject: Re: The next generation GUI (was : Re: [JBoss-dev]
> EJX and XML)
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> Dude, GUI tools suck. Just edit the xml by hand. IMO if a
> person can't edit
> xml they shouldn't be configuring the server or ejb-jar.
>
> -dain
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>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Rickard Öberg wrote:
>>AFAICT the only problem in integrating with Tomcat is the whole
>>>ClassLoader architecture.
>>>
>>
>> AFAIK no it isn't. That was nailed ages ago. Works great.
>
>
>Except that Jasper has different behavior when it compiles JSPs than
>when they're ru
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> netbeans is another possibility...
>
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> From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: The n
netbeans is another possibility...
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on 1-06-25 19.30, marc fleury at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
on 1-06-25 19.30, marc fleury at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The next generation GUI
Could be built using a set of extension to a freeware "shell" like the
Together Community Edition 5.0
http://www.togethercommunity.com/community-edition.shtml
or some other free tool with "easy" yet powerfull plu
Rickard Öberg wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Rickard Öberg wrote:
>
>>AFAICT the only problem in integrating with Tomcat is the whole
>>ClassLoader architecture.
>>
>
> AFAIK no it isn't. That was nailed ages ago. Works great.
Except that Jasper has different behavior when it compiles JSPs tha
you are not wrong, you are just a bit rusty...
marcf
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|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron
|Mulder
|Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 2:59 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] EJX and XML
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|On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, marc fleury
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, marc fleury wrote:
> what do you mean we already integrate the CL stuff... for the past year or
> so...
I thought it still didn't work with reloading (if you change a
servlet class or EJB class). If I'm wrong, great!
Aaron
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>> There, I said it, it pisses me off. The J2EE stack is a dream but nothing
>> more unless Tomcat is fixed.
>>
>
>Which is why Jules has been busy getting Jetty working.
Let me be more specific then: unless Jasper is fixed (which Jetty uses too).
There is work underway to correct this, but it'l
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Rickard Öberg wrote:
> AFAICT the only problem in integrating with Tomcat is the whole
> ClassLoader architecture.
AFAIK no it isn't. That was nailed ages ago. Works great.
What doesn't work great is Tomcat. It's dead slow. Do some benchmarks and be
disturbed.
/R
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| AFAICT the only problem in integrating with Tomcat is the whole
|ClassLoader architecture. If you can nail that in an intelligent way, I
|think JBoss will run fine with Tomcat. IMHO, the only way to solve this
|is for a 3rd party service to create the ClassLoaders and then tell both
|Tom
|the big problem is still
|there: it'll run piss-poor with Tomcat. It doesn't really matter what fancy
|stuff you can think up with that crap hanging around.
yes and no.
no, the base for webservices is the future of JBoss, ejb is but a
personality ( a service) and servlet is another one. it is
Rickard Öberg wrote:
>>yep, also for those that really want I believe the for pay add-on will be a
>>killer...
>>
>>look who is still lurking :)
>>
>>hey kiddo, when you pull your head out of your arse and your coma, you can
>>come and help us again, it is a shame to see so much talent go to wast
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Rickard Öberg wrote:
> Well, the mgmt yadda yadda is nice 'n all, but the big problem is still
> there: it'll run piss-poor with Tomcat. It doesn't really matter what fancy
> stuff you can think up with that crap hanging around.
>
> There, I said it, it pisses me off. The J2EE
>yep, also for those that really want I believe the for pay add-on will be a
>killer...
>
>look who is still lurking :)
>
>hey kiddo, when you pull your head out of your arse and your coma, you can
>come and help us again, it is a shame to see so much talent go to waste...
>do you like what you he
JB3.0?
there I said it, it pisses me off, get off your butt and produce something
real ;-)
marcf
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
|Rickard Öberg
|Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 2:02 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] EJX
>yes EJX doesn't really belong here anymore. Also rickard is not supporting
>it, it doesn't really work, and finally they are com.dreambean classes not
>JBoss open sourced.
That is true, so yes, removing it is a good idea.
>So that will mark the end of its life in JBoss, it is free to come back
project of JBoss and really have the commitment to do it
free? do it!
marcf
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|From: "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:44 AM
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] EJX and XML
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|> Actually I have re
Even better.
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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] EJX and XML
> Actually I have remove EJX from JBoss 3.0 for a whole variety of reasons...
>
>
Actually I have remove EJX from JBoss 3.0 for a whole variety of reasons...
it will need to be an addon or a new project.
marcf
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|M Stark
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|Subje
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