Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Hegarty

Alan, Tom,

On 13/10/16 19:59, Alan Bateman wrote:

..

Speaking of net-dev, then maybe this thread should move there as this
topic is really more of a URL issue rather than module system issue.


I have replied to this over on net-dev [1] ( I hope that is ok ).
We can continue the discussion there.

-Chris.

[]1 http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/net-dev/2016-October/010380.html


Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Alan Bateman

On 13/10/2016 19:40, Thomas Watson wrote:



I don't think service loader lookup is going to help us here.  Each 
framework instance will need its own provider but the set of providers 
will be constant to what is discovered on the system class loader.  As 
additional frameworks come up their providers will have no chance to 
be discovered.  Furthermore each framework implementation can be 
loaded by a non-system class loader.  For the usecase I am concerned 
about the framework implementation will not be loaded by the system 
class loader but instead by some dynamic class loader that can be 
thrown away when the framework instance is torn down.  For Eclipse a 
small launcher is the only jar on the system class loader.  The 
framework itself is loaded with a custom class loader the launcher 
creates.
I should have been clearer. I was trying to point out that you can 
locate URLStreamHandlerProvider implementations that aren't built-in or 
deployed on the class path yourself. That should be enough to create the 
URLStreamHandler and do the wrapping that I think you are doing.



:

I have not been able to determine why an SPI is needed for providing 
URLStreamHandlerFactory implementations to the service loader but not 
for ContentHandlerFactory implementations.  The 
URLStreamHandlerProvider is just an empty abstract class that 
implements URLStreamHandlerFactory.  Why couldn't the provider type 
just be URLStreamHandlerFactory directly similar to how 
ContentHandlerFactory is?
This is a security sensitive area and the permission check needed here 
couldn't be reliably enforced if the interface URLStreamHandleFactory 
were the service type. There is discussion on net-dev where this point 
was discussed.


Speaking of net-dev, then maybe this thread should move there as this 
topic is really more of a URL issue rather than module system issue.


-Alan


Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Thomas Watson
> From: Alan Bateman 
> The javadoc for the 4-arg URL constructor has all the details on how it 
> interacts with the system-wide stream handler factory, also how the 
> system class loader is used to locate protocol handlers that are 
> intended to used system-wide (this includes the ability to override 
> non-core protocol handlers).  I've no doubt that this won't be exactly 
> what you want but I hope you can see how URLStreamHandlerProvider is 
> used as the service type.

I don't think service loader lookup is going to help us here.  Each 
framework instance will need its own provider but the set of providers 
will be constant to what is discovered on the system class loader.  As 
additional frameworks come up their providers will have no chance to be 
discovered.  Furthermore each framework implementation can be loaded by a 
non-system class loader.  For the usecase I am concerned about the 
framework implementation will not be loaded by the system class loader but 
instead by some dynamic class loader that can be thrown away when the 
framework instance is torn down.  For Eclipse a small launcher is the only 
jar on the system class loader.  The framework itself is loaded with a 
custom class loader the launcher creates.

It appears we will have to continue to rely on the static methods to set 
our factory instances.

> 
> There are also updates to allow ContentHandlerFactory implementations be 

> deployed as modules. The details on that are in the javadoc for 
> URLConnection::getContent. This one did not need introducing a new 
> service type.

I have not been able to determine why an SPI is needed for providing 
URLStreamHandlerFactory implementations to the service loader but not for 
ContentHandlerFactory implementations.  The URLStreamHandlerProvider is 
just an empty abstract class that implements URLStreamHandlerFactory.  Why 
couldn't the provider type just be URLStreamHandlerFactory directly 
similar to how ContentHandlerFactory is?

Thanks for your time.

Tom




Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Alan Bateman

On 13/10/2016 17:23, Thomas Watson wrote:


:

Thanks for the pointer Alan.  I'll have a look.  Is there any 
additional documentation on this besides the javadoc?  At first glance 
it is unclear to me what discovers the providers?  Is the the URL 
class itself based on the thread context class loader?  How do 
providers interact with the statically set factory.  I also don't see 
a provider SPI type for java.net.ContentHandlerFactory.
The javadoc for the 4-arg URL constructor has all the details on how it 
interacts with the system-wide stream handler factory, also how the 
system class loader is used to locate protocol handlers that are 
intended to used system-wide (this includes the ability to override 
non-core protocol handlers).  I've no doubt that this won't be exactly 
what you want but I hope you can see how URLStreamHandlerProvider is 
used as the service type.


There are also updates to allow ContentHandlerFactory implementations be 
deployed as modules. The details on that are in the javadoc for 
URLConnection::getContent. This one did not need introducing a new 
service type.


-Alan.


Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Thomas Watson
> From: Alan Bateman 
> Have you looked at the changes in this area in JDK 9, specifically the 
> changes on how protocol handlers are located and the new URL stream 
> handler service-provider type URLStreamHandlerProvider?
> 
> -Alan
> 

Thanks for the pointer Alan.  I'll have a look.  Is there any additional 
documentation on this besides the javadoc?  At first glance it is unclear 
to me what discovers the providers?  Is the the URL class itself based on 
the thread context class loader?  How do providers interact with the 
statically set factory.  I also don't see a provider SPI type for 
java.net.ContentHandlerFactory.

Tom




Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Alan Bateman



On 13/10/2016 16:46, Thomas Watson wrote:

If not, are there going to be command line options that will allow us
to open up deep reflection of specific VM types as a compatibility mode
until we can get a proper solution?

There is a command-line option, in this case `--add-exports-private 
java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED` will allow code on the class path (or 
any custom class loader) to continue to break into non-public members of 
java.net.URL or other types in this package.


-Alan


Re: Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Alan Bateman

On 13/10/2016 16:46, Thomas Watson wrote:


Now that jigsaw is prohibiting deep reflection on types provided by the
boot modules we are running into an issue with the ugly things we do [1]
in order to support multiple factories in Equinox (an OSGi
implementation).  Each Equinox instance has its own context aware
ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory which serves up handlers
that are available for the particular instance of Equinox.  In order to do
this we have to resort to some very ugly reflection.  This allows us to
gain access to the 'base' factory object set in the VM so that each
instance of the framework can register itself with the 'base' factory. The
'base' factory handlers do the complicated work of figuring out which
factory to call based on the context which is calling the base handler.

We also resort to reflection on framework shutdown in order to flush our
factories out from the VM so that the base factory is not pinning our
framework in memory.  I am also aware that the Apache Felix OSGi Framework
implementation uses similar deep reflection in its implementation.  Are
there any plans in Java 9 that will make this scenario easier to achieve
without resorting to the use of deep reflection on the URL types from the
VM?  If not, are there going to be command line options that will allow us
to open up deep reflection of specific VM types as a compatibility mode
until we can get a proper solution?

At a minimum I think we need someway to unset the statically set handlers
in the VM to avoid pinning our base factories.  I can think of other
non-reflective ways to gain access to the base handler instance in order
to register each framework instance with the base handler.  For example,
the base factory could implement a specific protocol which allows a
connection to register another framework.

Have you looked at the changes in this area in JDK 9, specifically the 
changes on how protocol handlers are located and the new URL stream 
handler service-provider type URLStreamHandlerProvider?


-Alan


Ugly things done to support multiple ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory

2016-10-13 Thread Thomas Watson
Now that jigsaw is prohibiting deep reflection on types provided by the 
boot modules we are running into an issue with the ugly things we do [1] 
in order to support multiple factories in Equinox (an OSGi 
implementation).  Each Equinox instance has its own context aware 
ContentHandlerFactory and URLStreamHandlerFactory which serves up handlers 
that are available for the particular instance of Equinox.  In order to do 
this we have to resort to some very ugly reflection.  This allows us to 
gain access to the 'base' factory object set in the VM so that each 
instance of the framework can register itself with the 'base' factory. The 
'base' factory handlers do the complicated work of figuring out which 
factory to call based on the context which is calling the base handler.

We also resort to reflection on framework shutdown in order to flush our 
factories out from the VM so that the base factory is not pinning our 
framework in memory.  I am also aware that the Apache Felix OSGi Framework 
implementation uses similar deep reflection in its implementation.  Are 
there any plans in Java 9 that will make this scenario easier to achieve 
without resorting to the use of deep reflection on the URL types from the 
VM?  If not, are there going to be command line options that will allow us 
to open up deep reflection of specific VM types as a compatibility mode 
until we can get a proper solution?

At a minimum I think we need someway to unset the statically set handlers 
in the VM to avoid pinning our base factories.  I can think of other 
non-reflective ways to gain access to the base handler instance in order 
to register each framework instance with the base handler.  For example, 
the base factory could implement a specific protocol which allows a 
connection to register another framework.

But we are still left with a delima of how to wrap the handlers returned 
by various framework factory instances from the base handlers.  All the 
interesting methods on java.net.URLStreamHandler are protected.  Even 
though the proxy base handler extends java.net.URLStreamHandler it is not 
allowed to call the protected methods on another instance of 
java.net.URLStreamHandler.  We resorted to deep reflection on the 
java.net.URLStreamHandler class methods to do that.  The 
java.net.URLStreamHandler class is not an interface so we cannot easily 
create proxy classes using java.lang.reflect.Proxy.

Tom

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=502209