Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Warner Onstine
Solr looks pretty slick! Thanks for pointing this one out Erik. Any idea when it's coming out of incubator status? -warner On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:28 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote: Yeah, but what about Ruby on Rails?! ;) My current projects (yes, more than one) consist of a RoR front-end and a

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread cara
On 6/20/06, Rick Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[snip] Injection via an abstract getter, anyone?Shudder? shudder. I think I have grasped it (but I enjoy complex stuff), but to use it on alarge team... YIKES! There is going to be a lot of developer body bags. [snip] Granted Tapestry is very

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Chad Woolley
Erik, lowercase web services? What do you use to talk XML on the RoR side? One of the Ruby SOAP implementations, something homegrown, or something else? I work for a Rails shop, and we've done SOAP in one app. The one thing I noticed it had in common with Java (Axis) was that it NEVER just

RE: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Rick Hightower
Erik, Good to hear from you. No one has asked me to work on a RoR project yet. I pretty much work on whatever the client wants (except for Struts; I won't do Struts). We are creating our own version of RoR called Presto. Presto is based on Spring, Hibernate, Facelets and JSF. It is similar to

RE: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread josh zeidner
--- Rick Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I am a consulting, I give advice, but will happily work with Tapestry or JSF. Being a capitalist, I tend to pick the one with the highest bill rate. :o) Being an engineer, I tend to pick the one with the best value to my customer. :)

RE: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Rick Hightower
Flame bait? From: cara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:17 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices On 6/20/06, Rick Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Injection via an abstract

RE: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Rick Hightower
So Josh, let me get this straight if a Tapestry project pays $1 dollar an hour and a JSF project pays $100.00 an hour (or vice versa), you would work on the Tapestry project (or vice versa) because it is a better fit. Congrats! You are a much better man than me. I am not completely motivated by

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: Solr looks pretty slick! Thanks for pointing this one out Erik. Any idea when it's coming out of incubator status? Solr is where it's at... hear me now, believe me later. As for the incubator... who knows? It's very mature as it is and

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Jun 21, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Chad Woolley wrote: lowercase web services? What do you use to talk XML on the RoR side? One of the Ruby SOAP implementations, something homegrown, or something else? Currently Solr returns back a custom XML layout and accepts a custom format. These are

RE: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread josh zeidner
--- Rick Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Josh, let me get this straight if a Tapestry project pays $1 dollar an hour and a JSF project pays $100.00 an hour (or vice versa), you would work on the Tapestry project (or vice versa) because it is a better fit. Hey Rick, thanks for the

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Andrew Lenards
To Rick: I really haven't had a chance to use either of the framework (Spring.NET nor NHibernate) but I've tracked their progress. I caught a podcast from one of the devs for Spring.NET and it sounded like they was a fair amount of interest in the project. NHibernate hit version 1 around the

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Jon Thomas
I have to step in here and clarify that Rick (I'm sure) was being tongue in cheek. If he is anything he is the guy you turn to to clean out bloat. I assume it was recognized throughout the list that he was joking, but in case it was not, let me clarify for anyone who doesn't know him...he

RE: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Thomas Hicks
I believe she was applauding your inclusion of human aspects factors in making a technological decision and sarcastically saying that was blasphemy. I'm afraid Cara's getting kind of cynical after working at her current job location. They tend to be ratherum.behind on the technology and