Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Tim Holy
On Friday, July 8, 2016 6:43:36 PM CDT Daniel Carrera wrote: > For that matter, will there be upper case functions for every > concrete type? ... I'm just curious. I wouldn't actually use that feature. Yes, it's just the constructor. In most cases you don't have to define them manually, they are

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Daniel Carrera
On 8 July 2016 at 17:20, Tim Holy wrote: > The string unification is already in julia-0.5. > I don't think I know what "string unification" means, but I guess part of it is that Base.String will become ok to use again? > There are functions called String(), Int(), and

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Tim Holy
The string unification is already in julia-0.5. There are functions called String(), Int(), and Float64(). In some cases there are lowercase variants, and these often "do more" (e.g., `float` will parse a string and return an AbstractFloat). The uppercase versions are the minimalist

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Friday, 8 July 2016 16:01:25 UTC+2, Scott Jones wrote: > > We are looking forward to being able to use v0.5, with fast anonymous > functions, cleaner array syntax, Gallium debugger and C++, and many many > other improvements > Cleaner array syntax? Tell me more? > (although the string

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Scott Jones
It used to be that [[1,2],[3,4]] would try to concatenate the two vectors into [1,2,3,4], which was inconsistent with Vector{Int}[[1,2],[3,4]] (which returns a vector of vectors). That syntax was deprecated in v0.4.x, and in v0.5 now means the same thing (and the same as in any other language

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Daniel Carrera
This is just me, but I prefer to wait a bit longer than to get mistakes frozen into the language. One bit that I care about is the names of some types and functions. For example, right now we have - Base.String - Base.ASCIIString - Base.UTF8String - Base.AbstractString So, I want to use

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-08 Thread Scott Jones
Actually, the blog post from StaffJoy ( https://blog.staffjoy.com/retro-on-the-julia-programming-language-7655121ea341#.35atllel3) never said that it turned out to be a mistake, in the conclusion they said: > The Julia language helped to create Staffjoy and turn it into a business, > and for

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Cameron McBride
> For industry, it probably means something similar. > > > I really hope people in industry won't act on this date, as it is not > nearly firm enough to bet a business on. We already have people writing > blog posts about how using Julia for their startup turned out to be a > mistake; we really

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread John Myles White
> > For industry, it probably means something similar. I really hope people in industry won't act on this date, as it is not nearly firm enough to bet a business on. We already have people writing blog posts about how using Julia for their startup turned out to be a mistake; we really don't

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Chris Rackauckas
This information is hugely beneficial in science/mathematics, especially for a PhD. It means that if you start a project in Julia now, although there will be some bumps for when versions change, the project will likely end after v1.0 is released (say 2 years?) and so your code should be stable

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Isaiah Norton
> > I knew that. > The goal is 2017, if development community considers it to be ready. I don't mean to be too glib, but I fail to see how any answer is particularly actionable; it is certainly not binding. On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-4, Isaiah wrote: >> >> When it is ready.

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Tamas Papp
OTOH many other people would prefer to wait a bit until certain design decisions are hammered out in a satisfactory way. Stable & mature software usually happens after spending a lot of time using and developing unstable & immature software. Incompatibilities are a pain, of course, but most

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Hisham Assi
I knew that. On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-4, Isaiah wrote: > > When it is ready. > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Hisham Assi > wrote: > >> I really like Julia (I am using it for my publications & thesis), but I >> noticed that the versions are not

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Hisham Assi
I knew that. On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-4, Isaiah wrote: > > When it is ready. > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Hisham Assi > wrote: > >> I really like Julia (I am using it for my publications & thesis), but I >> noticed that the versions are not

Re: [julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Isaiah Norton
When it is ready. On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Hisham Assi wrote: > I really like Julia (I am using it for my publications & thesis), but I > noticed that the versions are not really backward compatible. I am still ok > with that, but many other people are waiting

[julia-users] When Julia v1.0 will be released?

2016-07-07 Thread Hisham Assi
I really like Julia (I am using it for my publications & thesis), but I noticed that the versions are not really backward compatible. I am still ok with that, but many other people are waiting for the mature, stable version (1.0) to start using Julia. So, when Julia v1.0 will be released?