Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix
Hi, I tried to test your plugin with OJ 1.4.2 release but unfortunately it does not show my ecw images. I tested first that the OpenJUMP 1.4.2 release version opens and shows the images. Then I removed the original ECW files (ermapper.jar and the dll files) and used your plugin files instead. Now the ecw file appears in the layer list but the image does not show. I do not get any errors into openjump.log file. The layer properties tool reports layer extents as 0,0,-1, -1 I verified that I have not troubles with gvSIG version 1.11 final which seems to contain the same files. I am runnin Windows XP Pro and Java 1.6.0_27. -Jukka Rahkonen- Lähettäjä: Giuseppe Aruta [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it] Lähetetty: 16. syyskuuta 2011 11:07 Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix Hi, some months ago I tested GvSIG ECW lib (jecw.jar) with OpenJUMP - It was working fine, even faster than ErMapper.jar from ErMapper. With this lib GvSIG team seems to have solved the bug that let ECW file to daspear (when zooming out of the image extension). I did a link to this lib (included all dll files) that works with OpenJUMP http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/ecw_plugin.zip/download Giuseppe Da: Stefan Steiniger A: OpenJump develop and use Inviato: Giovedì 15 Settembre 2011 20:46 Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix Hence, I think the implementation was done by Jon Aquino - as it came from JUMP 1.2 and thanks to Jukka for the license text info. After reading this, I think we could just distribute them (in the release) - but we need at least to add the license note from ER Mapper SDK 3. But that's a personal opinion. stefan -- Doing More with Less: The Next Generation Virtual Desktop What are the key obstacles that have prevented many mid-market businesses from deploying virtual desktops? How do next-generation virtual desktops provide companies an easier-to-deploy, easier-to-manage and more affordable virtual desktop model.http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426474/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BlackBerry® DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix
Hi, some months ago I tested GvSIG ECW lib (jecw.jar) with OpenJUMP - It was working fine, even faster than ErMapper.jar from ErMapper. With this lib GvSIG team seems to have solved the bug that let ECW file to daspear (when zooming out of the image extension). I did a link to this lib (included all dll files) that works with OpenJUMP http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/ecw_plugin.zip/download Giuseppe Da: Stefan Steiniger A: OpenJump develop and use Inviato: Giovedì 15 Settembre 2011 20:46 Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix Hence, I think the implementation was done by Jon Aquino - as it came from JUMP 1.2 and thanks to Jukka for the license text info. After reading this, I think we could just distribute them (in the release) - but we need at least to add the license note from ER Mapper SDK 3. But that's a personal opinion. stefan -- Doing More with Less: The Next Generation Virtual Desktop What are the key obstacles that have prevented many mid-market businesses from deploying virtual desktops? How do next-generation virtual desktops provide companies an easier-to-deploy, easier-to-manage and more affordable virtual desktop model.http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426474/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel-- BlackBerry® DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix
Hence, I think the implementation was done by Jon Aquino - as it came from JUMP 1.2 and thanks to Jukka for the license text info. After reading this, I think we could just distribute them (in the release) - but we need at least to add the license note from ER Mapper SDK 3. But that's a personal opinion. stefan -- Doing More with Less: The Next Generation Virtual Desktop What are the key obstacles that have prevented many mid-market businesses from deploying virtual desktops? How do next-generation virtual desktops provide companies an easier-to-deploy, easier-to-manage and more affordable virtual desktop model.http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426474/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix
I can see that the imagery support appeared with the Jump 1.2 version by Vivid solutions from October 31 2006. It included already support for ECW and MrSID Installation guide says: 4.4 IMAGERY ADD-INS 4.4.1 ErMapper ErMapper users should download the ErMapper.jar file from http://www.ermapper.com/. The jar should be placed into the lib directory, and added to the classpath. 4.4.2 MrSID MrSID users should download the mrsidgeodecode.exe and mrsidgeoinfo.exe utilities from http://www.lizardtech.com/. The files should be placed in a local directory, and added to the system path. Note: you may add the exe files to the system path within the launch script. 4.4.3 Imagery Hardware Support Imagery user may also consider installing hardware support for JAI from http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/. A software version is included with JUMP, you may need to remove the jai*.jar files from the classpath after installing the hardware support into your JVM. The guide does not mention .dll files but ECW images cannot be opened without them with JUMP 1.2. With dlls it works still very well. First time I can see ECW dlls appear with OpenJUMP on this computer is: D:\openjump-20070503-0016\lib\ext 21.10.2004 15:14 1 024 034 NCSEcw.dll -Jukka Rahkonen- Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [edgar.sol...@web.de] Lähetetty: 15. syyskuuta 2011 16:30 Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use Aihe: [JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix ok, i now changed the topic accordingly. first off i guess we need to find the correct license. anybody knows who implemented native win32 ecw support? can we contact him to receive the original license that cam with that version of the sdk? On 15.09.2011 12:46, Rahkonen Jukka wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to get some understandment about how the license text for the ECW > SDK/ECW JPEG 2000 SDK/ERDAS ECW/JP2 SDK has changed but it is not easy. > However, it looks like there in no problem in using .dll files from the > independent ER Mapper time before Leica Geosystems bought the company in > 2007. All the old programs I checked (Irfan View, ArcView, ArcGIS 9, MapInfo > Professional etc.) just have copied the NCS***.dll files from the > "redistributable" directory of the ECW SDK. I could not find a copy of ER > Mapper ECW licence from those programs but it is possible that it is included > somewhere on the help files. there should be a the necessary eula appendix as demanded by the two ecw EULAs i have seen so far. this would be the license that would have to add to our license collection as well. still wich is the correct complete licens for our binaries (ermapper.jar+NCS*.dlls). this one http://www.calculate-linux.org/packages/licenses/ECWPL ? could somebody supply me with the original sdk used? i would have a look at it and try to shed some more light on it as the ECWPL is obviously completely different to recent ecw sdk licenses. > EULA from November 2007 did not change much the situation with OpenJUMP I > think. What we use are exactly the files in the "redistributables" directory > > " 2. LICENSE GRANT > 2.1. Non-Commercial Use. > 2.1.1. Subject to all other terms of this Agreement, You are hereby granted a > royalty-free, nonexclusive, worldwide license to use the ECW/JP2 CODEC SDK to > create and distribute END APPLICATIONS that DECODE and/or ENCODE for > NON-COMMERCIAL USES. > 2.1.2. Subject to all other terms of this Agreement, You are hereby granted a > royalty-free, worldwide license to use the ECW/JP2 CODEC SDK to create and > distribute LIBRARIES. In distributing LIBRARIES, You are licensed only to > distribute those compiled portions of the ECW/JP2 CODEC SDK in the > "redistributables" directory, which contains binaries that another > application using the LIBRARY will link to." i am not sure if that license applies to our binaries > > The whole EULA text is citated in gdal develor thread > http://www.osgeo.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2007-December/015248.html > > At that time the SDK version was 3.x.x. The current version is 4.2 and the > company name ERDAS. I do not think that OpenJUMP could even theoretically use > the new 4.x SDK. ERDAS is marketing the system for streaming ECW imagery > through the internet with ECWP protocol and new license terms mandate that > any software using the version 4.x ECW must be able to read both static .ecw > image files and content from servers sending ECWP streams. even the new 'cited license' above has a statement for mandatory stream support. so we would have to look if our binaries came from before or actually legally have to drop the support. > We could consider to deliver the old ECW .dll files bundled with OpenJUMP > like we do now. We cannot really deliver OJ without the
[JPP-Devel] ecw license WAS: Re: ecw bugfix
ok, i now changed the topic accordingly. first off i guess we need to find the correct license. anybody knows who implemented native win32 ecw support? can we contact him to receive the original license that cam with that version of the sdk? On 15.09.2011 12:46, Rahkonen Jukka wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to get some understandment about how the license text for the ECW > SDK/ECW JPEG 2000 SDK/ERDAS ECW/JP2 SDK has changed but it is not easy. > However, it looks like there in no problem in using .dll files from the > independent ER Mapper time before Leica Geosystems bought the company in > 2007. All the old programs I checked (Irfan View, ArcView, ArcGIS 9, MapInfo > Professional etc.) just have copied the NCS***.dll files from the > "redistributable" directory of the ECW SDK. I could not find a copy of ER > Mapper ECW licence from those programs but it is possible that it is included > somewhere on the help files. there should be a the necessary eula appendix as demanded by the two ecw EULAs i have seen so far. this would be the license that would have to add to our license collection as well. still wich is the correct complete licens for our binaries (ermapper.jar+NCS*.dlls). this one http://www.calculate-linux.org/packages/licenses/ECWPL ? could somebody supply me with the original sdk used? i would have a look at it and try to shed some more light on it as the ECWPL is obviously completely different to recent ecw sdk licenses. > EULA from November 2007 did not change much the situation with OpenJUMP I > think. What we use are exactly the files in the "redistributables" directory > > " 2. LICENSE GRANT > 2.1. Non-Commercial Use. > 2.1.1. Subject to all other terms of this Agreement, You are hereby granted a > royalty-free, nonexclusive, worldwide license to use the ECW/JP2 CODEC SDK to > create and distribute END APPLICATIONS that DECODE and/or ENCODE for > NON-COMMERCIAL USES. > 2.1.2. Subject to all other terms of this Agreement, You are hereby granted a > royalty-free, worldwide license to use the ECW/JP2 CODEC SDK to create and > distribute LIBRARIES. In distributing LIBRARIES, You are licensed only to > distribute those compiled portions of the ECW/JP2 CODEC SDK in the > "redistributables" directory, which contains binaries that another > application using the LIBRARY will link to." i am not sure if that license applies to our binaries > > The whole EULA text is citated in gdal develor thread > http://www.osgeo.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2007-December/015248.html > > At that time the SDK version was 3.x.x. The current version is 4.2 and the > company name ERDAS. I do not think that OpenJUMP could even theoretically use > the new 4.x SDK. ERDAS is marketing the system for streaming ECW imagery > through the internet with ECWP protocol and new license terms mandate that > any software using the version 4.x ECW must be able to read both static .ecw > image files and content from servers sending ECWP streams. even the new 'cited license' above has a statement for mandatory stream support. so we would have to look if our binaries came from before or actually legally have to drop the support. > We could consider to deliver the old ECW .dll files bundled with OpenJUMP > like we do now. We cannot really deliver OJ without the dlls and give > instruction for the users to download dlls separately, because ERDAS does not > have version 3.x downloads. It was not allowed at the v. 3.x time to deliver > dlls separately but they should be included with the main software. Therefore > I do not believe we could keep copies of the .dll files for download on OJ > web side. Alternative is to remove the ECW support totally. For me the > current situation with dll files included in the release version but not in > the nightly builds fine because I do have some ECW images and OpenJUMP is > handling them fine. actually there are three options here - offer a bundle to download and copy to /lib - include in distribution zip - drop the support we should clear the correct license for our binaries and decide accordingly. > > When it comes to 4.x version, perhaps it would be best to acquire the > possible ECW support through an external library like GDAL or Geotools of > Sextante instead of building a new native support into OpenJUMP. just checked geotools2 and they use a gdal binding to read ecw, http://www.gdal.org/frmt_ecw.html which in turn would need one of these http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/DownloadingGdalBinaries i checked - win gisinternals.com dailies v1.8 which came with ecw libraries http://www.gisinternals.com/sdk/PackageList.aspx?file=release-1600-x64-gdal-1-8-mapserver-6-0.zip - linux ubuntugis build unstable also v1.8 something which had no ecw support out of the box http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki/UbuntuGISRepository but that is just observation, no judgement here. my take would be to implement gt2 datasources finally and therefor play
