Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-19 Thread Timur Maryin via juniper-nsp
--- Begin Message --- On 14-Nov-19 14:19, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: There are several places where you can run your keepalieve a) RPD b) RE PPMd c) LC CPU PPMd d) NPU (dispatch block in the LU/XL) And it depends on config where you run it. ... and on hardware and on defaults of t

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 18:02, wrote: > This would be LC CPU: > NPC10(LAB vty)# show ppm adjacencies > PPM distributed adjacencies > Protocol Holdtime (msec) PPM handle Inline > BFD15001424Yes > BFD15001426Yes > BFD1500

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-14 Thread adamv0025
> From: Saku Ytti > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:31 PM > > On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 15:18, wrote: > > > > But still I don't see how the LU microcode has the ability to actually > > generate packets, let alone to host a complete daemon. > > It does, there is dispatch block in LU, in this

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-14 Thread Karl Gerhard
On 14.11.19 14:19, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Also is there a cmd I can use to switch between LC CPU and LU? > > Thanks, > > adam Maybe this - at least for LACP: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/reference/configuration-statement/inline-edit-protocols-lacp.html

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-14 Thread Mark Tinka
Just to provide an update on this; Juniper are considering supporting this ER (IPv6 BFD in hardware) in Junos 20.3R1, which is scheduled in 2H'20. The time line is not yet committed from Juniper, so my SE is working on that. I'll keep you all posted. Mark. On 14/Nov/19 15:31, Saku Ytti wrote: >

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 15:18, wrote: > But still I don't see how the LU microcode has the ability to actually > generate packets, let alone to host a complete daemon. It does, there is dispatch block in LU, in this callout block you generate parcel in timed manner, which will be given to some P

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-14 Thread adamv0025
> Saku Ytti > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:28 AM > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 12:34, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On our MX480's, we've known for a very long time that IPv4 BFD is > > supported in the PFE. However, IPv6 BFD runs on the RE. > > PFE is an ambiguous term, it variably means NPU or

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Nov/19 13:28, Saku Ytti wrote: > PFE is an ambiguous term, it variably means NPU or LC CPU inside JNPR. > > There are several places where you can run your keepalieve > > a) RPD > b) RE PPMd > c) LC CPU PPMd > d) NPU (dispatch block in the LU/XL) > > And it depends on config where you run

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 14:28, Nitzan Tzelniker wrote: > Does any body know if the LC CPU on the MX204 has less power than the one in > MPC7 or in MX10003 LC > I saw some scaling numbers for subscriber management and it looks like some > numbers are very low on the MX204 compared to MX10003 LC >

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Nitzan Tzelniker
Does any body know if the LC CPU on the MX204 has less power than the one in MPC7 or in MX10003 LC I saw some scaling numbers for subscriber management and it looks like some numbers are very low on the MX204 compared to MX10003 LC These are control plane tasks that are distributed to the PFE so I

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 12:34, Mark Tinka wrote: > On our MX480's, we've known for a very long time that IPv4 BFD is > supported in the PFE. However, IPv6 BFD runs on the RE. PFE is an ambiguous term, it variably means NPU or LC CPU inside JNPR. There are several places where you can run your ke

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Nov/19 12:02, Saku Ytti wrote: > Do you run BFD keepalives from LC CPU or NPU? I don't know if MX204 > has real linecard CPU, or if it is like PTX1k where due to cost saving > there is no separate linecard CPU. If that is the case, and you don't > want NPU/inline BFD disabling distribute

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 06:55, Rob Foehl wrote: > Atypical only in that there's no chassis switch involved on the Ethernet > link... The comment above was about software catching up to what's > (functionally) missing from the line card, in this case. I can't parse this, sorry. > PR1444186 -- GR

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Nov/19 06:55, Rob Foehl wrote: >   > >   > > New platform, new bugs...  My only real complaint is how long it takes > to get fixes turned around these days. Yep, pretty standard. Per usual, it will settle down. Unlike the MX80 and MX104, the MX204 looks to have the stones to stick aroun

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-11 Thread Rob Foehl
On Sun, 10 Nov 2019, Saku Ytti wrote: More or less -- it's an RE glued to the non-fabric-facing parts of the MPC7, which tends to tickle some "interesting" corner cases in code that assumes there's a fabric chip present. I don't think RE connects atypically in MX204. RE is ETH+PCI connected, n

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-10 Thread Aaron Gould
We deployed the MX204 in pairs in 2 new markets that we entered into recently... Houston and Dallas... the MX204 presents itself as a small and relatively inexpensive but with nice port and feature versatility with its MX capabilities. We decided to roll them out with (2) 100g, (2) 40g, (4) 10g an

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-10 Thread Aaron Gould
Funny thing about the (8) sfp+ ports which do 1/10 gig... when you config a port for 1 gig, it still is referenced as "xe" ! ... not "ge" as you would expect. :| agould@site1-204-1> show system information Model: mx204 Family: junos Junos: 18.4R1-S3.1 Hostname: site1-204-1 agould@site1-204-1> s

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-10 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, > More or less -- it's an RE glued to the non-fabric-facing parts of the > MPC7, which tends to tickle some "interesting" corner cases in code that > assumes there's a fabric chip present. I don't think RE connects atypically in MX204. RE is ETH+PCI connected, not fabric. Can you elaborate

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread Rob Foehl
I'll preface this by saying that the MX204 is a great box, and fits many a niche quite well... However: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019, Clarke Morledge wrote: My understanding is that the MX204 is a 1 RU MPC7, but with a few modifications. More or less -- it's an RE glued to the non-fabric-facing parts

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread Bill Blackford
We evaluated the 204. It met our current needs for port density, but not future. A sweet upgrade path from an 80 or 104 though! Pay close attention to the port allocations. They’re a slight puzzle: https://apps.juniper.net/home/port-checker/index.html -b > On Nov 8, 2019, at 08:40, Clarke M

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Hello Gavin, no, you cannot configured Fusion fpcs that way. regards Rolf > Can't you do: > > https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/topic-map/rate-selectability-configuring.html#id-configuring-rate-selectability-on-mx204-to-enable-different-port-speeds >

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread Gavin Henry
Can't you do: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/topic-map/rate-selectability-configuring.html#id-configuring-rate-selectability-on-mx204-to-enable-different-port-speeds ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Hello, this is really interesting. We have a MX204 (Fusion AD, running Junos 18.4R1) + EX4300 (Fusion SD) running and found out you cannot set the port speed on the RJ45 ports of the EX4300 in that combination. We discussed this 3 months because Juniper wanted to tell us that this is by design be

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread Gavin Henry
> > The 10/40/100 capabilities of the MPC7 look great, but there are few > isolated > > cases where I need to support legacy 1 gig, and the MX204 can now handle > > that. Is this true? > > > Yup on the 10g for sure, but if you need 1G in volume you can pair it with a > simple 1RU switch. Yep, we p

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread adamv0025
> Giuliano C. Medalha > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:48 PM > > Yes > > MX204 is a super router !!! > > Very impressive about its performance > > > *Forwarding plane and control plane performance > We didn't have it on our testbench yet but we did have MPC7 on there and were not impr

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-09 Thread adamv0025
> Clarke Morledge > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:39 PM > > I wanted to resurrect an old thread about the MX204, from a year and a half > ago: > > https://lists.gt.net/nsp/juniper/64290 > > My understanding is that the MX204 is a 1 RU MPC7, but with a few > modifications. Yup, so be aware of

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Nov/19 18:39, Clarke Morledge wrote: >   > > So, if you do not need a lot of speeds and feeds, and can live without > a physical backup RE, the MX204 would be a good alternative to a MX240. Our use-case for the MX204 is:     - 10Gbps capability in the Metro. Hardware redundancy not necess

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-08 Thread Jonas Frey
Yes, since 18.1 the MX204 can be configured to support 1G: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/reference/configuration-statement/speed-gigether-options.html IMHO its hard to compare MX204 vs MX240, they are made for different markets. MX240 can be redundant, MX204 cant. As f

Re: [j-nsp] MX204 vs. MX240??

2019-11-08 Thread Giuliano C. Medalha
Yes MX204 is a super router !!! Very impressive about its performance *Forwarding plane and control plane performance A lot of memory for rib and fib and bng too It is the best router from the last years from Juniper. Hope that they create a new release ( sane success ) using MPC10 piz