Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Delete button on notification

[Kurt Fitzner]

On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 7:13:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Greenslade wrote:
>
>
> Under global settings -> notifications, there is a "show delete button" 
> setting. Is that what you are looking for? 
>
> Well colour me flabbergasted.  Was it set to "never" by default, or was 
that something I dumbly set myself back in my early days of using K-9?

In any case, that's precisely what I'm looking for.  Should have known K-9 
had it already.  It's a damn fine piece of work.

Thanks kindly,

  Kurt

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Delete button on notification

[Sean Greenslade]

On December 29, 2018 9:26:23 AM PST, Kurt Fitzner  
wrote:
>I have found that in many (actually most) cases, when I make the
>decision 
>to delete an e-mail it is made based on the amount of information I get
>on 
>the e-mail's Android notification.  By the first line of text I know if
>I 
>want to delete it or not.  It would be nice if in addition to "mark
>read" 
>we could get "delete".
>
>I don't know if three buttons on the notification are possible
>technically, 
>so if this isn't possible, then I suggest that "delete" on the
>notification 
>is likely *far* more useful than "reply".  In cases where a person
>wants to 
>"reply" to a message, that person is already committed to a full 
>interaction with K9, and a lot more button presses.  In that case, in
>the 
>overall scheme of things, using "reply" on the notification is maybe a 
>savings of 0.5% of the total K9 interaction time. On the other hand, if
>a 
>person is committed to "delete", then a full interaction with K9 is 
>specifically not wanted and having the button there represents cutting
>down 
>the total interaction time with K9 to less than half of what it would
>be.
>
>Thanks,
>
>  Kurt Fitzner

Under global settings -> notifications, there is a "show delete button" 
setting. Is that what you are looking for?

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[k-9-mail] Feature Request: Delete button on notification

[Kurt Fitzner]

I have found that in many (actually most) cases, when I make the decision 
to delete an e-mail it is made based on the amount of information I get on 
the e-mail's Android notification.  By the first line of text I know if I 
want to delete it or not.  It would be nice if in addition to "mark read" 
we could get "delete".

I don't know if three buttons on the notification are possible technically, 
so if this isn't possible, then I suggest that "delete" on the notification 
is likely *far* more useful than "reply".  In cases where a person wants to 
"reply" to a message, that person is already committed to a full 
interaction with K9, and a lot more button presses.  In that case, in the 
overall scheme of things, using "reply" on the notification is maybe a 
savings of 0.5% of the total K9 interaction time. On the other hand, if a 
person is committed to "delete", then a full interaction with K9 is 
specifically not wanted and having the button there represents cutting down 
the total interaction time with K9 to less than half of what it would be.

Thanks,

  Kurt Fitzner

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request: an 'exit' button

[Benoit-Pierre DEMAINE]

Some Rom implement force kill when long press back button. Not supported 
natively in my Rom, I gained the feature via xposed.

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[k-9-mail] Feature request: an 'exit' button

[NJ]

I like K9 a lot (and I like that it is open source) but I'd like an 'exit' 
(/'quit'/'close') button. Here is why. I'd like to be able to keep my 
e-mails hidden away until i choose explicitly to look at them. Apologies if 
this is the wrong place to make such a request.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Export should include account passwords and go to cloud

[finbarr69]

OK, well, I got a temporary phone because mine was going away for a screen
repair.  So I had to migrate everything and that included backing up K9 etc
onto a temporary phone, then when I restored it and put in all the
passwords, I found that K9 didn't tell me some of the passwords were wrong
(maybe I mistyped), but simply there were no emails in the those accounts.
It was a while before I noticed a message in my notifications that there
was a certificate error for those accounts whose passwords I had got
wrong.  Clearly it wasn't a certificate error and when I entered the
correct passwords, those notifications cleared and email started flowing
again.

Then 6 days later when my repaired phone came back I had to repeat the
process.

I do IT support for a living, so imagine my pain when customers bring me
their mobiles to be transferred and I've got to go through all this palaver
with K9 every time.  That's where I'm coming from.  Having the passwords in
the exported backup just makes sense to me.  The phone owner takes care of
the security of the phone.  Job done.

Warmest regards,

Brian


On 13 November 2016 at 13:24, Philip Whitehouse  wrote:

> Export to Dropbox etc I have no problem with.
>
> On the password issue I'm still against it:
>
> Yes, you could check for fingerprints. Of course this area is barely
> standardised. Samsung for instance I believe have their own API. Or at
> least had. And it only exists on newer phones. So even before you start
> you're limiting yourself.
>
> The 20 accounts thing was a serious point. To me exporting settings is
> something a user does maybe once a year to upgrade phones. Entering a
> couple of passwords once a year is not particularly onerous.
>
> I asked you to clarify 'we' because I'm genuinely trying to work out why
> it's worth K-9 developers adding and then maintaining this feature.
>
> Cost of developing it is probably small in comparison to cost of
> maintenance. K-9 has lots of settings, and these settings can interact in
> odd ways. Often it is that interaction that causes issues.
>
> And while I'm not against a configurable app, I'm also opposed to adding
> more dialogues and UX to functionality. That K-9 is not suitable for the
> average user is a problem to me, not a selling point.
>
> So adding a dialog and security check and file encryption then maintaining
> that indefinitely so a user doesn't have to verify they know the password
> to their own email account at most once a year... Yeah I don't see it.
>
> - Philip
>
>
> On November 13, 2016 12:58:43 PM GMT+00:00, finbarr69 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. What you say all makes sense.  However, I would submit that one
>> cannot assume the average user does not have 20+ accounts in K9, unless you
>> have some data to back up that assumption? The average user would be using
>> the stock email app, not the excellent K9 :-)
>>
>> Regarding passwords , all the ones I have to deal with are randomly
>> generated, wildly different from each other, usually at least 16 characters
>> and so not easy to remember.  The phone is protected by fingerprint and
>> pin.  Would it not be possible to request from the operating system a
>> security check before exporting the file?  There is an API hook
>> 
>> to do this, and other apps can do it.  Once authenticated, ask for a
>> password to encrypt the settings.  If the user has no lock on the phone and
>> no fingerprint sensor, then K9 could export without the passwords, and give
>> a warning to this effect.
>>
>> Also, if the phone can import settings from cloud storage (eg Dropbox),
>> it should have the ability to export there too. :-)
>>
>> Warmest regards,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On 10 November 2016 at 12:25, Philip Whitehouse  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-11-10 11:05, finbarr69 wrote:
>>>
 In migrating from one phone to another, we want it to be as easy as
 possible.  I used the Helium app to backup all the apps (and their
 data) and restore them, but sadly it didn't backup the K9 data,
 presumably because it stores it in a non-standard way?

>>>
>>> The data is stored in an SQL database, the account settings are stored
>>> in device preferences. It's all pretty standard.
>>>
>>> Storing the settings in account preferences means it is is encrypted
>>> (and fairly difficult to get to from another app).
>>>
>>> I would guess Helium doesn't back-up preferences. I would be surprised
>>> if it had access on a non-rooted phone frankly.
>>>
>>>
 So, plan B, export then import.  Export has its problems because it
 only exports to the local filesystem, not to Dropbox or SD (though,
 Import has the ability to import from Dropbox or SD).  Anyway, using
 a file manager app, I managed to find and copy the exported file over
 to Dropbox and import it on the new phone.  BUT... I then have to
 

Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Export should include account passwords and go to cloud

[Philip Whitehouse]

Export to Dropbox etc I have no problem with. 

On the password issue I'm still against it:

Yes, you could check for fingerprints. Of course this area is barely 
standardised. Samsung for instance I believe have their own API. Or at least 
had. And it only exists on newer phones. So even before you start you're 
limiting yourself. 

The 20 accounts thing was a serious point. To me exporting settings is 
something a user does maybe once a year to upgrade phones. Entering a couple of 
passwords once a year is not particularly onerous. 

I asked you to clarify 'we' because I'm genuinely trying to work out why it's 
worth K-9 developers adding and then maintaining this feature. 

Cost of developing it is probably small in comparison to cost of maintenance. 
K-9 has lots of settings, and these settings can interact in odd ways. Often it 
is that interaction that causes issues. 

And while I'm not against a configurable app, I'm also opposed to adding more 
dialogues and UX to functionality. That K-9 is not suitable for the average 
user is a problem to me, not a selling point. 

So adding a dialog and security check and file encryption then maintaining that 
indefinitely so a user doesn't have to verify they know the password to their 
own email account at most once a year... Yeah I don't see it. 

- Philip

On November 13, 2016 12:58:43 PM GMT+00:00, finbarr69  
wrote:
>Thanks. What you say all makes sense.  However, I would submit that one
>cannot assume the average user does not have 20+ accounts in K9, unless
>you
>have some data to back up that assumption? The average user would be
>using
>the stock email app, not the excellent K9 :-)
>
>Regarding passwords , all the ones I have to deal with are randomly
>generated, wildly different from each other, usually at least 16
>characters
>and so not easy to remember.  The phone is protected by fingerprint and
>pin.  Would it not be possible to request from the operating system a
>security check before exporting the file?  There is an API hook
>
>to do this, and other apps can do it.  Once authenticated, ask for a
>password to encrypt the settings.  If the user has no lock on the phone
>and
>no fingerprint sensor, then K9 could export without the passwords, and
>give
>a warning to this effect.
>
>Also, if the phone can import settings from cloud storage (eg Dropbox),
>it
>should have the ability to export there too. :-)
>
>Warmest regards,
>
>Brian
>
>
>On 10 November 2016 at 12:25, Philip Whitehouse 
>wrote:
>
>> On 2016-11-10 11:05, finbarr69 wrote:
>>
>>> In migrating from one phone to another, we want it to be as easy as
>>> possible.  I used the Helium app to backup all the apps (and their
>>> data) and restore them, but sadly it didn't backup the K9 data,
>>> presumably because it stores it in a non-standard way?
>>>
>>
>> The data is stored in an SQL database, the account settings are
>stored in
>> device preferences. It's all pretty standard.
>>
>> Storing the settings in account preferences means it is is encrypted
>(and
>> fairly difficult to get to from another app).
>>
>> I would guess Helium doesn't back-up preferences. I would be
>surprised if
>> it had access on a non-rooted phone frankly.
>>
>>
>>> So, plan B, export then import.  Export has its problems because it
>>> only exports to the local filesystem, not to Dropbox or SD (though,
>>> Import has the ability to import from Dropbox or SD).  Anyway, using
>>> a file manager app, I managed to find and copy the exported file
>over
>>> to Dropbox and import it on the new phone.  BUT... I then have to
>>> re-input all my email passwords.  This is very tedious when I've 20
>>> email accounts in K9 and the passwords are all very obscure and
>>> different :-)
>>>
>>> So, here's my feature request.  Please can the account passwords be
>>> included in the export?  Even if we have to encrypt the export with
>a
>>> master password, this would really help when migrating phones.
>>> Please also can we have the option to send the exported file to
>>> Dropbox (or wherever, same as the import options are?).
>>>
>>>
>> The question here is what is the threat model.
>>
>> 1. The file itself could be intercepted.
>>
>> This makes the master password idea seem reasonable. Encrypting the
>file
>> prevents it being used.
>>
>> 2. The act of exporting the settings is the vulnerability.
>>
>> If you grab someone's phone, right now there is no way to retrieve
>the
>> account password.
>>
>> If we add this feature, there will be. Simply export the file with a
>> master password, then decrypt the file using that password. There is
>no way
>> to prevent this.
>>
>> You could argue that device security is the responsibility of the
>phone
>> password. But equally file security is the responsibility of the
>user.
>>
>> Who is 'we' here? I would suggest having 20 accounts on K-9 is a 

Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Export should include account passwords and go to cloud

[finbarr69]

Thanks. What you say all makes sense.  However, I would submit that one
cannot assume the average user does not have 20+ accounts in K9, unless you
have some data to back up that assumption? The average user would be using
the stock email app, not the excellent K9 :-)

Regarding passwords , all the ones I have to deal with are randomly
generated, wildly different from each other, usually at least 16 characters
and so not easy to remember.  The phone is protected by fingerprint and
pin.  Would it not be possible to request from the operating system a
security check before exporting the file?  There is an API hook

to do this, and other apps can do it.  Once authenticated, ask for a
password to encrypt the settings.  If the user has no lock on the phone and
no fingerprint sensor, then K9 could export without the passwords, and give
a warning to this effect.

Also, if the phone can import settings from cloud storage (eg Dropbox), it
should have the ability to export there too. :-)

Warmest regards,

Brian


On 10 November 2016 at 12:25, Philip Whitehouse  wrote:

> On 2016-11-10 11:05, finbarr69 wrote:
>
>> In migrating from one phone to another, we want it to be as easy as
>> possible.  I used the Helium app to backup all the apps (and their
>> data) and restore them, but sadly it didn't backup the K9 data,
>> presumably because it stores it in a non-standard way?
>>
>
> The data is stored in an SQL database, the account settings are stored in
> device preferences. It's all pretty standard.
>
> Storing the settings in account preferences means it is is encrypted (and
> fairly difficult to get to from another app).
>
> I would guess Helium doesn't back-up preferences. I would be surprised if
> it had access on a non-rooted phone frankly.
>
>
>> So, plan B, export then import.  Export has its problems because it
>> only exports to the local filesystem, not to Dropbox or SD (though,
>> Import has the ability to import from Dropbox or SD).  Anyway, using
>> a file manager app, I managed to find and copy the exported file over
>> to Dropbox and import it on the new phone.  BUT... I then have to
>> re-input all my email passwords.  This is very tedious when I've 20
>> email accounts in K9 and the passwords are all very obscure and
>> different :-)
>>
>> So, here's my feature request.  Please can the account passwords be
>> included in the export?  Even if we have to encrypt the export with a
>> master password, this would really help when migrating phones.
>> Please also can we have the option to send the exported file to
>> Dropbox (or wherever, same as the import options are?).
>>
>>
> The question here is what is the threat model.
>
> 1. The file itself could be intercepted.
>
> This makes the master password idea seem reasonable. Encrypting the file
> prevents it being used.
>
> 2. The act of exporting the settings is the vulnerability.
>
> If you grab someone's phone, right now there is no way to retrieve the
> account password.
>
> If we add this feature, there will be. Simply export the file with a
> master password, then decrypt the file using that password. There is no way
> to prevent this.
>
> You could argue that device security is the responsibility of the phone
> password. But equally file security is the responsibility of the user.
>
> Who is 'we' here? I would suggest having 20 accounts on K-9 is a rare
> case. And having a password you can't remember is generally not normal
> practice anyway.
>
> I feel like this is an edge case that doesn't justify the code or the
> insecurity.
>
>
> Oh, also an easier way to move the accounts up or down would be
>> appreciated.  Drag and drop would be ideal.  At present one has to
>> long hold on an account and press Move Up (or Move down) and then
>> repeat it until the desired position is achieved (then repeat for all
>> the other accounts).
>>
>
> I don't have a problem with this - I would guess you'd enable a re-order
> mode. I have no idea about how easy it is to implement.
>
>
>> I'd be happy to make a donation if it helps.
>>
>
> Personally not for me - maybe for some of the other developers or someone
> else willing to do it contract-style.
>
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Export should include account passwords and go to cloud

[Philip Whitehouse]

On 2016-11-10 11:05, finbarr69 wrote:

In migrating from one phone to another, we want it to be as easy as
possible.  I used the Helium app to backup all the apps (and their
data) and restore them, but sadly it didn't backup the K9 data,
presumably because it stores it in a non-standard way?


The data is stored in an SQL database, the account settings are stored 
in device preferences. It's all pretty standard.


Storing the settings in account preferences means it is is encrypted 
(and fairly difficult to get to from another app).


I would guess Helium doesn't back-up preferences. I would be surprised 
if it had access on a non-rooted phone frankly.




So, plan B, export then import.  Export has its problems because it
only exports to the local filesystem, not to Dropbox or SD (though,
Import has the ability to import from Dropbox or SD).  Anyway, using
a file manager app, I managed to find and copy the exported file over
to Dropbox and import it on the new phone.  BUT... I then have to
re-input all my email passwords.  This is very tedious when I've 20
email accounts in K9 and the passwords are all very obscure and
different :-)

So, here's my feature request.  Please can the account passwords be
included in the export?  Even if we have to encrypt the export with a
master password, this would really help when migrating phones. 
Please also can we have the option to send the exported file to
Dropbox (or wherever, same as the import options are?).



The question here is what is the threat model.

1. The file itself could be intercepted.

This makes the master password idea seem reasonable. Encrypting the file 
prevents it being used.


2. The act of exporting the settings is the vulnerability.

If you grab someone's phone, right now there is no way to retrieve the 
account password.


If we add this feature, there will be. Simply export the file with a 
master password, then decrypt the file using that password. There is no 
way to prevent this.


You could argue that device security is the responsibility of the phone 
password. But equally file security is the responsibility of the user.


Who is 'we' here? I would suggest having 20 accounts on K-9 is a rare 
case. And having a password you can't remember is generally not normal 
practice anyway.


I feel like this is an edge case that doesn't justify the code or the 
insecurity.




Oh, also an easier way to move the accounts up or down would be
appreciated.  Drag and drop would be ideal.  At present one has to
long hold on an account and press Move Up (or Move down) and then
repeat it until the desired position is achieved (then repeat for all
the other accounts).


I don't have a problem with this - I would guess you'd enable a re-order 
mode. I have no idea about how easy it is to implement.




I'd be happy to make a donation if it helps.


Personally not for me - maybe for some of the other developers or 
someone else willing to do it contract-style.




Thanks!

Brian

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[k-9-mail] Feature Request: Export should include account passwords and go to cloud

[finbarr69]

In migrating from one phone to another, we want it to be as easy as 
possible.  I used the Helium app to backup all the apps (and their data) 
and restore them, but sadly it didn't backup the K9 data, presumably 
because it stores it in a non-standard way?

So, plan B, export then import.  Export has its problems because it only 
exports to the local filesystem, not to Dropbox or SD (though, Import has 
the ability to import from Dropbox or SD).  Anyway, using a file manager 
app, I managed to find and copy the exported file over to Dropbox and 
import it on the new phone.  BUT... I then have to re-input all my email 
passwords.  This is very tedious when I've 20 email accounts in K9 and the 
passwords are all very obscure and different :-)

So, here's my feature request.  Please can the account passwords be 
included in the export?  Even if we have to encrypt the export with a 
master password, this would really help when migrating phones.  Please also 
can we have the option to send the exported file to Dropbox (or wherever, 
same as the import options are?).

Oh, also an easier way to move the accounts up or down would be 
appreciated.  Drag and drop would be ideal.  At present one has to long 
hold on an account and press Move Up (or Move down) and then repeat it 
until the desired position is achieved (then repeat for all the other 
accounts).

I'd be happy to make a donation if it helps.

Thanks!

Brian

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Harry Ward]

Philip:

Again, many thanks.

I think I  understand enough now to stop bothering you on this subject. K9 
is set to 'leave the message on the server'. My computer Email program, on 
my primary computer, leaves that option unchecked. So I can get the Email 
on K9 first, and then when I retrieve it on my primary computer, it is 
deleted from the server.


Harry




On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:19:05 PM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Ah it's a POP account... 
>
> That number is the number of unread emails. 
>
> Sent emails may be being stored in your sent folder by your provider. 
> Similarly emails deleted via a web client may be moved to Trash. But we 
> can't do that when you delete an email because POP doesn't support moving 
> emails I think. 
>
> And POP doesn't sync read email status either. So when we download it we 
> assume it's unread. 
>
> There's a reason we recommend using IMAP where available - it's much 
> better for managing email. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Philip Whitehouse]

Ah it's a POP account... 

That number is the number of unread emails. 

Sent emails may be being stored in your sent folder by your provider. Similarly 
emails deleted via a web client may be moved to Trash. But we can't do that 
when you delete an email because POP doesn't support moving emails I think. 

And POP doesn't sync read email status either. So when we download it we assume 
it's unread. 

There's a reason we recommend using IMAP where available - it's much better for 
managing email. 


On April 23, 2016 9:10:45 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward  wrote:
>Philip:
>
>WOW, what rapid responses!
>
>I may have found the problem. 
>
>The first attachment is from your Documentation. All of the folder
>types 
>with arrows pointing to them say  these are not available for POP
>accounts, 
>which is what I have. And if you look at the 2nd attachment, you will
>see 
>that none of those noted as 'not available for POP' show here.
>
>But what is confusing is that Spent, Spam & Trash folders are in fact 
>present, as shown in my 3rd attachment. And more confusing, Spent &
>Trash 
>contain entries. Trash shows me that there are 6 there. Although there
>are 
>4 in Sent, no blue circle or number appears.
>
>So why does the Sent folder not indicate any file contents?
>
>Harry
>
>
>
>On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 1:02:37 PM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse
>wrote:
>>
>> If you go Account settings, Folder, is the Spam folder set to a real 
>> folder. 
>>
>> Can also you confirm the version you have installed. 
>>
>> On April 23, 2016 5:36:58 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward
>> > wrote: 
>> >Philip: 
>> > 
>> >The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a
>message. 
>> >Spam 
>> >is not on the list. Only Delete. 
>> > 
>> >The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message 
>> >Actions. 
>> > 
>> >I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three 
>> >dots, 
>> >but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an
>Inbox 
>> > 
>> >message open. 
>> > 
>> >So I need a little more of your expert advice. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >Harry 
>> > 
>>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Harry Ward]

Philip:

I forgot to indicate that I have K9 Version 5.010


Harry


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> Philip:
>
> WOW, what rapid responses!
>
> I may have found the problem. 
>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Philip Whitehouse]

If you go Account settings, Folder, is the Spam folder set to a real folder.

Can also you confirm the version you have installed. 

On April 23, 2016 5:36:58 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward  wrote:
>Philip:
>
>The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a message.
>Spam 
>is not on the list. Only Delete.
>
>The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message
>Actions.
>
>I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three
>dots, 
>but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an Inbox
>
>message open.
>
>So I need a little more of your expert advice.
>
>
>Harry
>
>
>
>On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:46:20 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse
>wrote:
>>
>> Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a
>message is 
>> actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.
>>
>> From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select
>Spam or 
>> you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then
>spam 
>> (or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.
>>
>> We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom 
>> action bar.
>>
>> I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider
>design 
>> overhaul.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>>
>>> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all
>5, or 
>>> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same
>buttons at 
>>> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an
>Email, 
>>> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Harry Ward]

Philip:

The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a message. Spam 
is not on the list. Only Delete.

The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message Actions.

I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three dots, 
but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an Inbox 
message open.

So I need a little more of your expert advice.


Harry



On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:46:20 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a message is 
> actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.
>
> From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select Spam or 
> you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then spam 
> (or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.
>
> We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom 
> action bar.
>
> I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider design 
> overhaul.
>
>
> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>
>> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all 5, or 
>> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same buttons at 
>> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an Email, 
>> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Philip Whitehouse]

Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a message is 
actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.

>From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select Spam or 
you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then spam 
(or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.

We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom action 
bar.

I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider design 
overhaul.


On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>
> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all 5, or 
> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same buttons at 
> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an Email, 
> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:39:13 AM UTC-5, Ola Thoresen wrote:
>>
>> I agree that the Show Delete Button does not fit there. 
>> But I also think what you are looking for is under Global settings - 
>> Display - Visible Message Actions (sorry, I don't know the german 
>> translation, but it is almost at the bottom of the "Display" menu).
>>
>> There you can select which buttons should be visible below each message. 
>>
>> Rgds 
>>
>> Ola (T) 
>>
>>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Vincent Gatignol]

> De: "Ola Thoresen" 

> I agree that the Show Delete Button does not fit there.
> But I also think what you are looking for is under Global settings - Display -
> Visible Message Actions (sorry, I don't know the german translation, but it is
> almost at the bottom of the "Display" menu).

> There you can select which buttons should be visible below each message.
Is there something similar for the "Folder list view" ? 

I miss the ordering capability of the options displayed at the bottom when 
multi-selecting messages using checkboxes. 
Always need to "show more" then "mark as spam"... 

Regards, 

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Max Mustermann]

No, this is another menu and not for the notification screen when you receive 
an email and K9mail is closed.
There you have also a spam button.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Ola Thoresen]

I agree that the Show Delete Button does not fit there. 
But I also think what you are looking for is under Global settings - Display - 
Visible Message Actions (sorry, I don't know the german translation, but it is 
almost at the bottom of the "Display" menu).

There you can select which buttons should be visible below each message. 

Rgds 

Ola (T) 

On March 11, 2016 5:31:33 PM GMT+01:00, Max Mustermann  
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>Ok, i didn't found it before because i was searching for a "Mark as
>spam" but not a "Allow deleting".
> 
>Not so nice german translation i think.
>
>And also "Sleeping time" in the same menu has nothing to do with the
>configuration of the notification screen. This are two pair of shoes
>and should be separated.
>
>"Sleeping time" should be in a menu called "Sound notifications" or
>stand alone as it is. In german "Ton-Benachrichtigungen".
>
>The buttons for the notification screen should be in a menu called
>"Notification screen" or "Notification window". In german
>"Benachrichtigungs-Fenster".
>
>But anyway would be nice to have a spam button also. 
>Then spam move to the spam folder and trash to trash.
>Other email apps have it.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

[Seth H Holmes]

There an option to show a delete button under the global notification settings.

On March 10, 2016 10:18:33 AM EST, Max Mustermann  wrote:
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>
>There is right now only the option to answer or mark as read.
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>I don't want to open every time k9mail when i receive a spam mail to
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request, identity detection

[Seth H Holmes]

I would expect it to. This is a particular problem on mailing lists, so maybe 
it's a bug. I'll do a little experimentation.

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 Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:15:11 PM -0400
 From: Seth H Holmes shol...@route-fu.net

 I have multiple identities configured as multiple email addresses
 terminate at the same account.
 
 What I would like is for k9 to read the envelope headers and pick
 the right identity to send from in a reply.
 
 Thunderbird does this so I know it's possible.
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I thought it did that already. When I reply to a message sent to an
alias/identity address it sets that address as the sender on the
reply. That address is not the default/username for the server
account, or the sending default (sending mail/composition defaults)
for that account in the K-9 configuration. It is, however,
configured as an identity on the K-9 account (sending mail/manage
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request

[Al Klein]

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 7:08:33 PM UTC-5, PeteM wrote:

 when you are managing 7+ accounts as I am to have to rely on remember what 
 colour is what account seems a bit arcane,


Arcane.  Nice way of telling these kids that the grey in your hair is 
actually your memory leaking out of your head.  I have no idea which color 
is for which of my FOUR accounts.  But I do remember the names of the 
accounts, and I can make them about 4 characters each if I had to.

So another Amen!

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request

[Peter]

Hi Seth, 

I appreciate what your saying but when you are managing 7+ accounts as I am to 
have to rely on remember what colour is what account seems a bit arcane, if 
there is any way to get 6 to 8 letters of the account name after the folder 
description title it would be so much friendlier in use, for me anyway.

Peter


Sent from my Android tablet, with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

On 4 March 2015 05:00:26 GMT+00:00, Seth H Holmes shol...@route-fu.net wrote:
Left side of the messages you should see a vertical colored bar
corresponding to the account the email is in.

The letter is supposed to be contact photos if you have them. You can
shut those off on the settings too.

On March 3, 2015 5:02:13 PM EST, Peter p...@moatfarm-cp.co.uk wrote:
Each of my 7 accounts have been given a different colour but nowhere
is
it shown to indicate or remind me what account I am actually reading
the emails from unless you mean that I need to be reading the messages
from within the unified inbox. 

The messages only show a letter which seems to taken from the email
address and has a colour but not all the same colour. 


Peter

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On 3 March 2015 13:11:23 GMT+00:00, Seth H Holmes
shol...@route-fu.net wrote:
K9 already has this option...sort of.

There's only so much real estate on the screen for words, but you can
give every account a unique color. Under the account settings in the
general options there is account color. Each message is tagged with
the
account color for that account.

On February 28, 2015 3:57:33 PM EST, Peter Holsberg pj...@pobox.com
wrote:
Once I have selected an account, nothing in K-9 tells me which
account
I
selected.

It would be nice if at the top where it says Inbox (or whatever
folder
I have open) it also had the account name.

(My excuse for this request is that I'm an old person and I
frequently
forget which account I just selected. Ever walk into a room and
forget
why you went there? Same thing.)

Thanks for considering this.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request

[Peter Holsberg]

Seth H Holmes wrote on 3/3/2015 8:11 AM:
 K9 already has this option...sort of.
 
 There's only so much real estate on the screen for words

There's plenty of room next to the name of the folder being displayed
for 6-8 characters.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request

[Peter]

Couldn't agree more, I too would like to see this as a fixed feature, k9mail is 
great but still lacks a few raw edges knocking off the edges especially for us 
silver surfers 
Peter


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On 28 February 2015 20:57:33 GMT+00:00, Peter Holsberg pj...@pobox.com wrote:
Once I have selected an account, nothing in K-9 tells me which account
I
selected.

It would be nice if at the top where it says Inbox (or whatever
folder
I have open) it also had the account name.

(My excuse for this request is that I'm an old person and I
frequently
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why you went there? Same thing.)

Thanks for considering this.

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[k-9-mail] Feature request: real bottom-posting support

[David Griffith]

I've never been very happy with mobile email clients because none of them 
seem to have even halfway decent support for RFC-1855, that is, bottom 
posting.  So far, K9mail is closest.  Could I convince someone to add an 
option whereby Message text appears instead below the bottom of the 
quoted text and puts the cursor there?

Kudos for doing the right thing with angle brackets.

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[k-9-mail] Feature Request: pop3 delete after download

[Tobias Müller]

Dear devs, 

please consider adding an option to enable the following behaviour: 

For pop3-accounts, delete eMails from the server as soon as they have been 
downloaded via K-9. 


Thanks for K-9, reading this post  happy christmas,

Tobias




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[k-9-mail] Feature Request: Mark Read on Spam

[Seth Holmes]

Would be useful (maybe have a toggle for it since I don't think everyone 
would want it) for junk mail handling to mark the e-mail as read if you 
tag it as Spam.


Thanks for your consideration.

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[k-9-mail] Feature request: Disable email fetch during quiet time

[Sabra Bryant]

The quiet hours are great, but I'd love to be able to completely disable 
fetching emails during those hours. Why have the phone polling when I'm 
sleeping?

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Copy self

[John F. Eldredge]

K-9 already has this feature.  Go to Settings, Account Settings, Sending 
Emails, Composition Defaults, BCC All Messages To, and put your email address 
in that field.


On April 7, 2014 5:27:38 AM CDT, David Fox dbfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since I use K-9 mail with my ISP email account one feature that is
 missing 
 is the option to copy me on composed email messages.  A lot of email 
 clients have that checkbox feature.  I would like the messages I send
 from 
 my tablet available on my ISP account.  Since I connect with POP3 and
 not 
 IMAP it doesn't happen auto magically.
 
 Yes, I can add my email as a CC but a setting would be more convenient
 as I 
 wouldn't have to remember to do that on every sent email.
 
 I checked the group for a similar request and the app for an existing 
 setting before posting.
 
 Thanks for considering this request!
 
 David Fox

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature Request: Copy self

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On 4/7/14, 6:27 AM, David Fox wrote:

Since I use K-9 mail with my ISP email account one feature that is
missing is the option to copy me on composed email messages.  A lot of
email clients have that checkbox feature.  I would like the messages I
send from my tablet available on my ISP account.  Since I connect with
POP3 and not IMAP it doesn't happen auto magically.

Yes, I can add my email as a CC but a setting would be more convenient
as I wouldn't have to remember to do that on every sent email.

I checked the group for a similar request and the app for an existing
setting before posting.

Thanks for considering this request!


The option already exists. Every message you send is dropped into a 
Sent folder. But there's also an option to BCC yourself automatically:


Account Settings - Sending Mail - Composition defaults - Bcc all 
messages to


(Same place you would have set up your signature if you set one up.)

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Re: [k-9-mail] feature Request: move mails back from trash

[An Ka]

I use a pop3 Mailbox. 
Sometimes it happens that a mail is deleted inadvertently (because of a 
thick finger ;) ). 
I would like to move this mails back to the inbox. 

Andreas


Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 15:47:50 UTC+1 schrieb Dennis Rockwell:

 On 03/13/2014 09:57 AM, An Ka wrote: 
  Hi dear developer team, 
  
  could you please add a function to undo a delete (move a mail bach 
  from trash)? 

 If you sync your trash folder, you can browse to it and move messages 
 back. 

  From your inbox, how would you specify which email to bring back? Just 
 the most recently trashed, perhaps? 

 Dennis 


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[k-9-mail] Feature Request: S/MIME

[An Ka]

Hi dear developer team, 

is there a plan to add S/Mime Support for encryption?

Regards, 

Andreas

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Re: [k-9-mail] feature Request: move mails back from trash

[Dennis Rockwell]

On 03/13/2014 09:57 AM, An Ka wrote:

Hi dear developer team,

could you please add a function to undo a delete (move a mail bach 
from trash)?


If you sync your trash folder, you can browse to it and move messages back.

From your inbox, how would you specify which email to bring back? Just 
the most recently trashed, perhaps?


Dennis

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[k-9-mail] Feature request - notification customisation

[Ian Skidmore]

Hi,

I like being able to customise the flashing colour of the phone's led when I 
have new mail. This distinguishes it from text messages.

How about being able to have different notification preferences if the email is 
from someone in your contacts? Ideal, all aspects of notifications could be 
changed for messages from contacts vs non-contacts, but even just being able to 
only have the led flash red for emails from contacts would be great.

Great product! Keep up the good work! 
Ian. 

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[k-9-mail] Feature Request - Swipe to Delete

[Alan Carter]

Please can we have an option to swipe to delete messages from the Unified 
Inbox?


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[k-9-mail] Feature request - delete permanently (shift+del)

[vitafedra]

I would appreciate Delete permanently functionality for IMAP.
Functionality would be the same as Shift+Delete on desktop - delete 
directly without moving to Trash
1) in folder view in the context menu next to Delete 
2) somewhere in e-mail view (long-tap on trash icon, or 3 dots...)
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request - Landascape mail view

[cketti]

On 15.02.2014 07:25, romarch73 wrote:
 Thank you Seth, this is very complex configuration features for more users, 
 but this is an alternative solution.
 I have deselect delete button from this menu configuration so i can see reply 
 button in landscape view, but now in the vertical view i can not see delete 
 button.
 So if for me is important to have reply button in landscape mode (when I 
 write mail) and delete button in vertical mode (when I read mail) I can not 
 have this at the same time.


The icons you see are part of the menu. If the available space changes,
e.g. when the device orientation changes, the icons that can't be
displayed anymore are moved to the so-called overflow menu. You can
expand it by clicking the icon with the three dots and/or pressing the
menu button of your device.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request - Landascape mail view

[Dennis Rockwell]

On February 14, 2014 9:56:58 AM EST, Seth Holmes shol...@route-fu.net wrote:

 There is a menu option to select which buttons are visible, I can't recall 
 where it is but likely under the global settings.

There is, but reply isn't available.

Dennis

Sent from my Nexus 7 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request - Landascape mail view

[romarch73]

Thank you Seth, this is very complex configuration features for more users, but 
this is an alternative solution.
I have deselect delete button from this menu configuration so i can see reply 
button in landscape view, but now in the vertical view i can not see delete 
button.
So if for me is important to have reply button in landscape mode (when I write 
mail) and delete button in vertical mode (when I read mail) I can not have this 
at the same time.

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[k-9-mail] Feature request - Landascape mail view

[romarch73]

Hello.
When I reading a single mail in k-9 landscape mode on my 480x320 screen, I can 
not viewing reply button becouse i viewing only next or previous button at the 
top on the right.
So it is possible to show first reply button and after previous and next button?
If I use android menu button I make 3 tap, with reply button i make only 1 tap!

Thank you.

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