On Monday, February 8, 2016 9:43:55 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> On Monday, February 08, 2016 09:26:50 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> ...
>
> > From the replies I read I have a feeling that you haven't made up your
> > mind
> > yet what the "focus" means. It gives me a feeling that each project t
On Monday, February 8, 2016 1:02:47 PM CET Alexander Dymo wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote:
> > why you think KDE should not be a leader in future technologies.
>
> What are these future technologies?
> I think you're just not convinced this is the future, right?
S
On Monday, February 8, 2016 5:09:35 PM CET Alexander Dymo wrote:
> In that mail I omitted the "GUI" somewhere near the "free software".
> We do agree with Alex N about that.
Just follow the last three replies to that thread and try to understand why I
think your answers are contradicting and ther
In that mail I omitted the "GUI" somewhere near the "free software".
We do agree with Alex N about that.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote:
> On Monday, February 08, 2016 01:12:51 PM Alexander Dymo wrote:
>> We pointed many times that the focus is on free software
>> for mo
> We define the goal for KDE not in technical terms, but in terms of Freedom,
> user control and privacy.
I understand this part clearly. I just say that this goal is too
broadly defined, and, therefore hardly reachable by a single
organization like KDE. Most free software communities, including K
On Monday, February 08, 2016 01:12:51 PM Alexander Dymo wrote:
> We pointed many times that the focus is on free software
> for mobile: hybrid laptop, tablet, phone, and any existing or future
> personal computing device.
So your vision wants KDE to target mobile computing? What about desktops,
On Monday, February 08, 2016 13:12:51 Alexander Dymo wrote:
> The "inclusive" vision naturally doesn't have this problem because its
> attitude is: "let's have everybody on board".
You're misunderstanding this draft then, let me clarify:
We define the goal for KDE not in technical terms, but in
On Monday, February 08, 2016 13:02:47 Alexander Dymo wrote:
> More devices will arrive, each requiring a shell/launcher and the
> apps.
I think devices without a graphical user interface, driven by speech or
sensors will be more and more common.
The point really is, are we sure that important fu
On Monday, February 08, 2016 21:42:58 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > I understand that you're saying it doesn't have a place in KDE.
>
> Sebas, you may have missed that I explicitely mentioned eigen in the mail
> you replied to ?
No, I've missed that. Sorry...
> I don't understand what's so har
On Monday, February 08, 2016 09:26:50 Martin Graesslin wrote:
...
> From the replies I read I have a feeling that you haven't made up your mind
> yet what the "focus" means. It gives me a feeling that each project to join
> would be questioned in detail, whether it matches the perceived "focus". No
On Monday, February 08, 2016 10:56:01 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Thursday, February 04, 2016 08:49:55 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Still we don't see linear algebra libraries or build tools as the main
> > goal
> > KDE is trying to achieve (...says the guy who maintained the KDE
> > buildsyst
Martin, I think you either misunderstood, or misinterpreted what I and
AlexN wrote. We pointed many times that the focus is on free software
for mobile: hybrid laptop, tablet, phone, and any existing or future
personal computing device.
We're talking about "focused" KDE vision and mission. We're t
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote:
> why you think KDE should not be a leader in future technologies.
What are these future technologies? Our group thinks that personal
computing devices are a big thing. Apps working on these devices are
going to be even more important than t
On Friday, February 05, 2016 05:00:28 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 February 2016 10:10:27 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > The first draft reads as follows:
> > "KDE, through the creation of Free software,
>
> "through the creation of Free software" sounds like (part of) a mission
> stateme
On Thursday, February 04, 2016 08:49:55 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Still we don't see linear algebra libraries or build tools as the main goal
> KDE is trying to achieve (...says the guy who maintained the KDE
> buildsystem for more than 7 years).
Next counter-example: The Eigen library, a li
I think it's very much in KDE's interest to allow projects which are
not part of KDE but which KDE depends upon to be part of it. This
should be done on the judgement of the KDE GSoC admins based on value
to KDE and how well the other projects works with us. In many cases
it's the same people who
On Monday, February 8, 2016 2:37:26 AM CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> As part of the Student Programs admin team, to me it is pretty clear:
> we should act as the umbrella for friendly teams who pull their own
> weight, whether or not they intend to become KDE projects officially
> in the near futu
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Martin Klapetek
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday 03 February 2016 14:58:54 Martin Klapetek wrote:
>> > So I'd like to have this cleared - does the community agree to
>> > have non-KDE projects, those that do not follo
On Friday, February 5, 2016 10:03:27 AM CET Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 10:10:27 AM CET Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> >> The first draft reads as follows:
> >> "KDE, through the creation of Free software, enables us
On Thursday, February 4, 2016 9:16:41 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thursday, February 04, 2016 07:53:06 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 11:44:35 PM CET Alexander Dymo wrote:
> > > I reread both drafts and realized that people who have not
> > > participa
On Sunday, February 7, 2016 2:00:43 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> On Saturday, February 06, 2016 19:39:35 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission
> > > statement. But I
Hi,
thank you for your replies. Unfortunately I don't find these satisfying
answers. I asked for explanations why not. This is completely missing. A we
should do GUI is no explanation on why we should not be a leader in the next
big thing. So please explain in more detail, why you think KDE sho
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