Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

Hi all, A bit late to the party, yet I'm responsible for the Streamlined Onboarding goal and Bugzilla seems to be a hot topic relating to this. Nate had even proposed a dedicated goal for Bugzilla back when the goals where voted and it got merged with Onboarding as they overlapped. I thought it

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:31:46 CET Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Thursday, February 1, 2018 7:20:11 AM EST Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > > On 01.02.2018 12:50, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:44:13 CET Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > > >> In LibreOffice, we only

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 7:20:11 AM EST Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > On 01.02.2018 12:50, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:44:13 CET Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > >> In LibreOffice, we only restrict priority and severity and even those > >> upwards from medium/normal.

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On 01.02.2018 12:50, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:44:13 CET Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: In LibreOffice, we only restrict priority and severity and even those upwards from medium/normal. We monitor messy stuff with a script:

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:44:13 CET Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > I want to add something: one intimidating thing is that a new > contributor needs to request editing rights to Bugzilla. Perhaps this > was enforced when someone got fed up with reporters toggling statuses, > but I think having

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

Yes, I plan to do a big overhaul soon. But don't let that stop others who want to have a go, too. Nate On 01/31/2018 10:24 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:19:25 CET Luigi Toscano wrote: For the record, we have documentation about this. We just don't have an

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:19:25 CET Luigi Toscano wrote: > For the record, we have documentation about this. We just don't have an > active BugSquad team around as it was before: > > https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging > > https://community.kde.org/Bugsquad Yes,

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:15:41 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:44:01 CET Nate Graham wrote: > > >> As Nate has now attained demigod status with his usability blog posts, > > >> I > > >> think it would be good to take advantage of all the positive attention > >

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:18:44 CET Nate Graham wrote: > > We actually already have a centralized page with that information: > https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging, which is > linked to from https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved, which is now > linked to on

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On 01/31/2018 08:15 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:44:01 CET Nate Graham wrote: As Nate has now attained demigod status with his usability blog posts, I think it would be good to take advantage of all the positive attention and tie it into one of the other goals

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 15:44:01 CET Nate Graham wrote: > >> As Nate has now attained demigod status with his usability blog posts, I > >> think it would be good to take advantage of all the positive attention > >> and tie it into one of the other goals "Streamlined onboarding of new > >>

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

As Nate has now attained demigod status with his usability blog posts, I think it would be good to take advantage of all the positive attention and tie it into one of the other goals "Streamlined onboarding of new contributors". The point has to be hammered home: "If you love some dev, set them

bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Monday, 29 January 12:16:07 UTC Boudewijn Rempt wrote: On Monday, 29 January 2018 12:25:24 CET Harald Sitter wrote: I don't like going to our bugzilla. Me neither... But that's more because I have to triage about a 1000 bug reports a year, and many of them are not bug reports at all, but

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:29 AM, David Edmundson wrote: > For existing stuff there's a problem that bugzilla names are hardcoded into > apps. > > There's kdepackages.h in frameworks that provides a list of all products so > that help->report bug works > and there's

Re: bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

I' strongly in favor of closing bugs in unmaintained products and then locking/deleting the product. Bug trackers are only useful when the signal-to-noise ratio is high. Once it gets too low, people stop using it and a death spiral ensues. One wrinkle: for example everything in the "kio"

bugzilla, it's products, how they relate to projects. it's a mess...

Hola! Every other month I run my head into the desk over bugzilla products -.- - 99% of time if I want to file a bug against a new project that project has no product in bugzilla at all - unmaintained-ness is not reflected. you can file bugs against