Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

On Freitag, 19. April 2024 22:51:55 CEST Jakob Petsovits wrote: ... > all KF dependencies from source. Now that all the megarelease is out, we > might want to consider relying on distro packages for KF6 by default, in > the same way that Qt is not built by default either. This would underscore >

Re: How do we feel about non 100% KDE job offers being sent here?

On Donnerstag, 25. November 2021 14:44:56 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote: > Hey, > > I know a company that would like to hire people with a skill set that > is relatively common inside the KDE community, the job is not strictly > KDE related, one could call it KDE-adjacent. > > How do we feel about

Re: On the reappointment of Richard Stallman as a director of the FSF

On Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 08:53:31 CET Patrick Spendrin wrote: > Am 24.03.2021 um 23:26 schrieb Aleix Pol: > > Dear community, > > From the KDE e.V. we followed closely the discussions on the last few > > days regarding this recent decision within the Free Software > > Foundation's leadership.

Re: RMS and open letter

On Dienstag, 23. März 2021 20:49:36 CET Carl Schwan wrote: > Hello all, > like you probably heard already RMS was reinstatement to the > Board of Directors of the Free Software Foundation. RMS has > always been a negative force to the Free Software movement due > to his toxic behavior. IMO,

Re: Tuxedo and reliability (Re: New kde.org/hardware webpage)

On Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 15:11:36 CET Philippe Cloutier wrote: > Le 2020-01-25 à 02:47, Alexander Neundorf a écrit : > > On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 15:42:15 CET Niccolò Venerandi wrote: > >> Hi! > >> I'm working on adding a kde.org/hardware webpage. You can see

Re: New kde.org/hardware webpage

On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 15:42:15 CET Niccolò Venerandi wrote: > Hi! > I'm working on adding a kde.org/hardware webpage. You can see screenshot > here: https://phabricator.kde.org/D26711. What do you think? ~Niccolò > Venerandi Regarding Tuxedo: I bought one 5 years ago or so, and it is a

Re: Planet KDE posts not about KDE (was: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed)

On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019 22:23:10 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote: ... > The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled > breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers > are brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts of

Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed

On Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019 13:04:35 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about themselves > as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE > significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that talking about >

Re: Climate Impact and KDE

On Freitag, 20. September 2019 11:02:44 CEST Jens wrote: > So recent discussions about Climate Strike raised some very good points > about what KDE as a community can do to decrease its footprint. I want > to thank Friedrich for raising them. > > Personally I think this is a rather fun focus for

Re: FOSS-North report

On 2019 M04 25, Thu 17:19:14 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:49 AM Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > [[ Since my blog is down, this is the all the report we'll see about FOSS- ... > > Personally I'd like the Open Source booths to fit in with the rest of the >

Re: We published Promo's long term goals

Hi, On 2019 M02 15, Fri 21:08:40 CET Paul Brown wrote: > Hi, > > We at the Promo group recently published our Long Term Goals at > > https://community.kde.org/Promo%27s_Long_Term_Goals > > This text helps explain what Promo does and doesn't, and where our > priorities lay. More importantly,

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

Hi, ... > We were close to being global I don't really understand what you mean with "global". Can you please explain ? Thanks Alex

Re: Improving our integration with KDE application teams, and supporting companies

On 2018 M08 13, Mon 06:08:38 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Just to follow up: many people have talked about this topic with me at > Akademy. What I'm not seeing is a public discussion here on the > community list. Note: I deliberately did not send this to the e.V. > list because this is not

Re: FOSDEM - what to show?

On 2018 M01 26, Fri 13:11:56 CET Adriaan de Groot wrote: > For FOSDEM, we've got a table -- but what shall we show off there? I'll maybe somehow try to concentrate on the big goals which have been chosen, privacy and usability ? Alex

Re: KDE Community Goals: 2017 voting has started

On 2017 M11 6, Mon 17:55:10 CET victorhck wrote: > El 06/11/17 a las 17:31, Aleix Pol escribió: > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:03 PM, victorhck wrote: > >> El 06/11/17 a las 15:53, Andy B escribió: > >>> Thank you Lydia. > >>> > >>> I voted. > >>> > >>> Andy > >>> > >>> On

Re: Goal: Improve Plasma Mobile platform for end-user needs

On 2017 M09 5, Tue 01:26:44 CEST Aleix Pol wrote: ... > That said, I think it's also worth including here other major mobile > platforms. I'm convinced that the appeal to make an application mobile > is magnitudes greater if the application will work on other platforms > besides our own. +1 I

Re: Goal: Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia

On 2017 M08 29, Tue 18:12:55 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer > > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > here is my proposal for a Big Hairy Audacious Goal: > > Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia > > > > I

Re: Big Hairy Audacious Goal: Privacy Software

On 2017 M08 18, Fri 18:14:22 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hi all, > > I spent some time thinking and working on a proposal for the big hairy > audacious goal (1), the goal that the KDE community sets for itself to > strive for in the next five years. (Context: re-read the thread started > by

Re: Proposal: Have the Community Set Ambitious Goals for Itself

On 2017 M08 2, Wed 12:32:32 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:20:11 +0200 > > Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Thanks everyone who worked on putting this together at Akademy. I > > believe this is a way that can work well for us as a community. > > > > So one of the

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

On 2017 M08 9, Wed 00:19:32 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: ... > - Easy way to share files > A solution that puts files automatically on share.kde.org and embeds them > from there works only if we have people willing and able to implement that > feature into a desktop- as well as mobile client One

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

Hi, On 2017 M07 7, Fri 07:21:32 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, ... > > How about collecting ideas for that ? > > We have already 5. > > 5? I missed a couple I guess. I spotted only "privacy" and "freedom" so far. For completeness: - privacy - (practical) freedom - reliability - KDE apps for

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

On 2017 M07 6, Thu 07:29:39 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:12:38 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: ... > > Except that I don't think "Open Data" should really be THE focus of KDE > > (but I guess you just used that as a random example ?), I fully agre

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

On 2017 M07 5, Wed 13:14:19 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On woensdag 5 juli 2017 12:17:10 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote: > > IOW, knowing the organization as a whole decided on some sort of direction > > at least for a while would prompt me into looking beyond my usual comfort > > zone. By doing that

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

On 2017 M07 5, Wed 12:17:10 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > > On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:28:24 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On 2017 M07 2, Sun 03:43:57 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote: > > ... > > > > > In my opinion our answer to "where we want to go

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

On 2017 M07 5, Wed 15:05:26 CEST Clemens Toennies wrote: > On Jul 5, 2017 13:14, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > Should we make privacy our main focus for the next 5 years? > > How about Freedom? The "KDE - Digital Freedom" is one of my favourite T-shirts... Still, there exists

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

On 2017 M07 2, Sun 03:43:57 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote: ... > In my opinion our answer to "where we want to go" was supposed to be > something else than "nowhere in particular". Then I think we're falling > very short on that. We face a problem, and instead of putting our efforts > to find where to

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

On 2017 M01 14, Sat 16:53:19 CET Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all > > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give > > Kubuntu and Fedora a place

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

On 2016 M10 31, Mon 22:30:45 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 30 September 2016 12:56:13 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > ... > > > On the other hand, a mission that actually concentrates on the things that > > we need to solve at a higher level (co

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

On Tuesday 27 September 2016 16:06:38 Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Alexander Neundorf <neund...@kde.org> wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 September 2016 21:53:46 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > >> On 12.09.2016 18:18, Alexander N

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

On Wednesday 21 September 2016 21:53:46 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 12.09.2016 18:18, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thursday 01 September 2016 16:54:32 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Ingo Klöcker <kloec...@kde.o

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

Hi, On Thursday 01 September 2016 16:54:32 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > I don't think so. On > > https://akademy.kde.org/ > > there's no BoF registered for working on the mission. > > Thomas and I just added one on Tuesday

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

Hi, On Monday 01 August 2016 12:05:25 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 01.08.2016 11:20, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Thank you for doing this. > > > > I am baffled by the extreme coherence between answers of contributors and > > of users. Seems like a perfect match. > > Indeed, I was equally

Re: [kde-community] Please participate in our survey for input on KDE's Mission

Hi Thomas, On Thursday 16 June 2016 12:02:48 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Dear fellow KDE contributors, > as already hinted at in the article about KDE's Vision [1], the next step in > setting our path into the future is defining KDE's Mission statement. Right > after our Vision was published, a

Re: [kde-community] Final review for the KDE Mission survey

On Sunday 12 June 2016 14:49:58 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > thank you again for the feedback on the KDE Mission survey! > I have tried to implement the feedback to the best of my abilities. > You can find the updated survey (still) here: > >

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

Hi, On Sunday 22 May 2016 19:29:22 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016 15:38:39 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > > One of our historical problems, in my opinion, has been our little > > engagement with the "commercial world". Words can help or holding us > > back from turning

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

Hi, I'm just commenting on stuff which hasn't been mentioned somewhere else already... On Friday 20 May 2016 20:45:06 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Freitag, 20. Mai 2016 00:14:36 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: ... > > Section "To promote the development of Free softw

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Monday 16 May 2016 23:37:17 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Montag, 16. Mai 2016 22:59:59 CEST you wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > > > On Tuesday 10 May 2016 22:48:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 17:18:39 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: >

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

Hi Thomas, On Tuesday 10 May 2016 22:48:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 17:18:39 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: ... > > Both positions are perfectly valid, of course. Now the problem is: How can > > we tell what KDE as a whole puts more emphasis on, when nobody bu

Re: [kde-community] Does KDE attempt to attract experienced contributors?

On Friday 13 May 2016 11:00:18 Stephen Kelly wrote: ... > What do experienced people look for? > > What makes an experienced person spend their time on FOSS? just my reasons: I spend spare time on a FLOSS projects - to scratch my itch, i.e. because I want it to do something it currently

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 23:22:40 Alexander Neundorf wrote: ... > So, I'd say let's concentrate on what we are really doing, and strive for > world domination ("everyone" as the vision says) in these areas (yes, I do > consider this realistically achievable), and lea

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

Hi, On Thursday, April 28, 2016 12:21:28 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > as we've found during the vision creation process that having a concrete > draft to work from can streamline the discussion, I tried to come up with > one. It goes quite into detail, but I think this is necessary in

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 07:58:14 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... > Of course there is push-back in your mail. Basically you told us we are > wasting our time trying to do a mobile shell which could replace Android. > That's the pushback I'm talking about. We have seen this for years since we >

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 15:04:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Our mission is our way to accomplish our vision. > If the software was our way to accomplish our mission, what would the > mission be, then? Not sure I understand. Is there a "not" missing ? So, our vision is a world where everybody has

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

Hi, On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 22:43:03 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > now that we've finally agreed on a vision for KDE [1] and have that out of > the way, we can fully focus on how we want work towards that vision. > Alex has already set up a Wiki page for brainstorming notes [2], so

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 22:43:03 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > now that we've finally agreed on a vision for KDE [1] and have that out of > the way, we can fully focus on how we want work towards that vision. > Alex has already set up a Wiki page for brainstorming notes [2], so it

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 22:43:03 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > now that we've finally agreed on a vision for KDE [1] and have that out of > the way, we can fully focus on how we want work towards that vision. > Alex has already set up a Wiki page for brainstorming notes [2], so it

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 22:53:03 David Jarvie wrote: ... > This may read a bit better, although it does slightly alter the emphasis: > > "A world in which everyone has control over their digital life and enjoys > freedom and privacy." How about one more tweak ? "A world in which everyone can

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 08:26:15 Stephen Kelly wrote: > Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > "A world in which everyone enjoys freedom and privacy and has control > > over their digital life." > > > > Unless there are major objections within the next week I would like to > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

On Monday, March 14, 2016 14:58:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote: ... > Next steps: > * publish the vision. I'm still working out what needs doing. can we please try to publish vision and mission together ? If things go well, maybe can get that done until end of April. Alex

[kde-community] Vision and mission for KDE - how to proceed ?

Hi, so, after the discussions, how do we proceed ? Settle on "A world in which everyone has control over their digital life" as preliminary vision statement, put it in the community wiki somewhere, and start with working on a mission statement ? Other ideas ? Alex

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Saturday, March 05, 2016 11:18:47 Stephen Kelly wrote: > Jos Poortvliet wrote: ... > > Just think about neon - make a list of 5 reasons why it shouldn't be a KDE > > project, easy. But then look at the vision: does it help people (a certain > > group, in this case, Ubuntu users) achieve and

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Thursday, March 03, 2016 04:46:20 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > replying on phone. blame faulty text completion/correction for any rudeness! > On Feb 29, 2016 5:40 PM, "Alexander Neundorf" <neund...@kde.org> wrote: ... > > Can we express the "not be at the me

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Sunday, February 28, 2016 09:54:18 Stephen Kelly wrote: > Alexander Neundorf wrote: > >> I don't know if you read my mail, but I'd encourage you to do so. > > > > TBH, it's so long I got lost. > > Then I don't know why you are writing in this thread. Exactly be

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Saturday, February 27, 2016 19:42:44 Stephen Kelly wrote: > Alexander Neundorf wrote: > >> "A world in which everyone has control over their digital life" (in -> > >> over) seems a great vision. > > > > personally I'd like to have included that thi

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Friday, February 26, 2016 20:01:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:22:22 PM AMT Stephen Kelly wrote: > > Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > > Oooo, Steve! Thank you for capping off an excellent discussion. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stephen Kelly

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 22:59:35 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 07:37:07 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > "KDE creates technology for a world in which everyone has freedom, > > privacy and control over their digital life." > > > > isn't a conflation of vision and

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 16:50:16 Valorie Zimmerman wrote: ... > After reading all of the above, which put into words my inchaote > thoughts, I would like to offer the following version: > > KDE: control your digital life just a nitpick: worded like this, isn't this an order ? "control your

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > have now put this into a second draft. It reads as follows: > "KDE creates

Re: [kde-community] Community vision and product vision

On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:22:53 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 22:02:18 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:41:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > My suggestion, therefore, is: Why don't those who are looking for a > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 22:59:35 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 07:37:07 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > "KDE creates technology for a world in which everyone has freedom, > > privacy and control over their digital life." > > > > isn't a conflation of vision and

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 08:01:01 Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 10:22:20 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 15:11:47 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > ... > > > > > Maybe you could start thinking about that

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:27:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > A bit less than t

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:12:06 Mario Fux wrote: > On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:25:52 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Hallo Ingo, > > Morning Alex and Co > > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 14:31:09 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > Hi Ingo, > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

On Monday, February 15, 2016 15:11:47 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... > Maybe you could start thinking about that. What does it mean if THE GUI > maintainer doesn't want that? Maybe he has a better look on it with THE GUI > knowledge? > > Please don't completely dismiss my feedback. Think about it.

Re: [kde-community] Community vision and product vision

On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:41:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: ... > Now the thing is: As many of you surely already know, I'm a big fan of > product visions. Whenever I start working with a community within KDE, the > first thing I ask is "Do we have a product vision yet?", and if the answer > is

Re: [kde-community] Fwd: KDE Vision – towards “wholesame” solutions

Hi, On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer > > wrote: > > sent to wrong mailinglist by mistake ... > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: "Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer"

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 15:35:01 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... > I can turn that 180 degree around and argue that we are currently too narrow > minded to get new people in and are not doing great. Hey look all the > awesome work with Plasma 5 and Wayland. We are doing desktop, desktop, >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

Hi, On Friday, February 12, 2016 08:04:10 Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:06:33 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:06:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:08:19 PM Alexan

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:00:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: ... > Maybe what you want is an overarching product vision instead of a community > vision, after all? I think I can answer at least for everybody from the alternative-draft team, maybe also for the people who want more "direction" in

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:37:23 Clemens Toennies wrote: > On Feb 12, 2016 9:14 PM, "Alexander Neundorf" <neund...@kde.org> wrote: > > On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:00:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > ... > > > > > Maybe what you

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:17:03 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 09:42:31 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > > Also, what do you think about the relation between vision and mission > > > > ? > > > > > > When I j

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 01:22:02 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: ... > A vision statement alone doesn't do much, either. A mission is needed to > turn vision into strategy. Yes. :-) > > Anyway, I think vision and

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:06:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:08:19 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:03:47 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:15:21 Alexander Neundorf wrote: >

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:55:59 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: ... > > This is maybe an important detail. > > The results of "Evolve KDE" (https://evolve.kde.org/surveyresults.pdf) > > recommend

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:03:47 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:15:21 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > I'll also start a new sub-thread. > > Since this vision draft is very broad: what kind of projects do you > > consider to be covered

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 07:55:08 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... > This was more a rhetorical question. Apparently it didn't make it through. > I'm worried about your vision closing a path for the future. Your vision > setting a focus on past technologies, which will result in stagnation, >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 11:59:26 Marco Martin wrote: ... > I fear a part of the explanation is very simple and very sad... > the first time around every participant was young and willing to ride the > change, today several generations are living together in KDE here is the mail from

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:41:07 Sebastian Kügler wrote: ... > As Martin said very well already: By defining our goals not in terms of > technology but in terms of values and principles, we don't lose the > technology aspect, we are still experts in Qt, sure we'll lose it long-term. If we

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 20:37:29 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Alexander Dymo wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > >> The technology is something that does not belong into the vision. > > > > Why?

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

Hi, I'll also start a new sub-thread. Since this vision draft is very broad: what kind of projects do you consider to be covered by this vision draft ? Or, the other way round, are there projects, or types of projects which you see as not part of this vision ? Alex

Re: [kde-community] Differences between proposed vision drafts (or "inclusive" vs "focused")

On Monday, February 08, 2016 22:41:08 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Monday, February 08, 2016 21:42:58 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > I understand that you're saying it doesn't have a place in KDE. > > > > Sebas, you may have missed that I explicitely mentioned eigen in t

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

Hi Thomas, On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: ... > That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we > should agree on a definition. It doesn't have to be one with which everybody > wholeheartedly agrees, because it's mostly used for

Re: [kde-community] Differences between proposed vision drafts (or "inclusive" vs "focused")

On Monday, February 08, 2016 10:56:01 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday, February 04, 2016 08:49:55 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Still we don't see linear algebra libraries or build tools as the main > > goal > > KDE is trying to achieve (...says the guy w

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

On Saturday, February 06, 2016 19:39:35 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission > > statement. But I think, before we tackle the mission statement, we should > > nail down the

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

Hi Ingo, On Friday, February 05, 2016 16:43:06 Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Wednesday 03 February 2016 22:05:20 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > KDE is an end-user focused, openly governed community of free software > > enthusiasts > > This is a description of what you (and me) th

Re: [kde-community] Should we allow non-KDE projects to participate in GSoC under KDE?

On Wednesday, February 03, 2016 14:58:54 Martin Klapetek wrote: ... > Imho this goes against the Manifesto as the projects gets to > "enjoy the benefits" without the complying with "commitments" > of the Manifesto. It's also less transparent overall (not able to > monitor progress as it's not on

[kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

Hi everyone, as Lydia already wrote earlier today, there have been activities in the KDE community to come up with a vision for the KDE project for the next years, so we can better work together to achieve our goals as a community. Additionally to the team presented by Lydia, an additional

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

Hi Adriaan, On Wednesday, February 03, 2016 23:18:26 Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Wednesday 03 February 2016 22:05:20 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Let's make KDE rule the world of free GUI software ! > > I'll be a little flippant and say that this is a second vision, different &

Re: [kde-community] Evolving KDE

Hi, not sure I understand: On Saturday, April 18, 2015 12:00:03 kde-community-requ...@kde.org wrote: * During KDE e.V.'s annual general assembly, the report is discussed and some of the recommended focus areas are agreed on as goals. * At a strategy sprint, core community members come up with