Hi,
On Sunday 22 May 2016 19:29:22 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016 15:38:39 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote:
> > One of our historical problems, in my opinion, has been our little
> > engagement with the "commercial world". Words can help or holding us
> > back from turning
On Sunday 12 June 2016 14:49:58 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> thank you again for the feedback on the KDE Mission survey!
> I have tried to implement the feedback to the best of my abilities.
> You can find the updated survey (still) here:
>
> http://survey.kde.org/index.php/858172/lang-
Hi Thomas,
On Thursday 16 June 2016 12:02:48 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> Dear fellow KDE contributors,
> as already hinted at in the article about KDE's Vision [1], the next step in
> setting our path into the future is defining KDE's Mission statement. Right
> after our Vision was published, a group
Hi,
thanks a lot for your efforts ! :-)
On Friday 29 July 2016 11:53:28 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On 29.07.2016 08:57, Mirko Boehm - KDE wrote:
> > Hello Thomas,
> >
> >> On 29 Jul 2016, at 01:04, Thomas Pfeiffer
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sorry for taking so long with the survey analysis (analy
On Monday 01 August 2016 12:05:25 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On 01.08.2016 11:20, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Thank you for doing this.
> >
> > I am baffled by the extreme coherence between answers of contributors and
> > of users. Seems like a perfect match.
>
> Indeed, I was equally surprised b
Hi,
On Monday 01 August 2016 12:05:25 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On 01.08.2016 11:20, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Thank you for doing this.
> >
> > I am baffled by the extreme coherence between answers of contributors and
> > of users. Seems like a perfect match.
>
> Indeed, I was equally surpri
Hi,
On Thursday 01 September 2016 16:54:32 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > I don't think so. On
> > https://akademy.kde.org/
> > there's no BoF registered for working on the mission.
>
> Thomas and I just added one on Tuesday at 4pm.
how did it
On Wednesday 21 September 2016 21:53:46 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On 12.09.2016 18:18, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thursday 01 September 2016 16:54:32 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> >
On Tuesday 27 September 2016 16:06:38 Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Alexander Neundorf
wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 September 2016 21:53:46 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> >> On 12.09.2016 18:18, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >
Hi,
On Friday 30 September 2016 12:56:13 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
...
> On the other hand, a mission that actually concentrates on the things that
> we need to solve at a higher level (community governance, culture,
> infrastructure, support, network effects, licensing policies, etc.), a
> focused
On 2016 M10 31, Mon 22:30:45 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 30 September 2016 12:56:13 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> ...
>
> > On the other hand, a mission that actually concentrates on the things that
> > we need to solve at a higher level (co
On 2017 M01 14, Sat 16:53:19 CET Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote:
> > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all
> > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give
> > Kubuntu and Fedora a place o
On 2017 M01 17, Tue 15:11:14 CET Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Monday, January 16, 2017 01:13:03 AM Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
> > Where do we stop? We have to draw the line somewhere, but I don't know
> > where. Perhaps making it case-by-case could be problematic, someone
> > could claim it's unfair to
On 2017 M05 29, Mon 21:17:29 CEST Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Last year we have talked a lot about KDE's vision, fleshed it out and
> wrote it down: https://community.kde.org/KDE/Vision I am proud that we
> have done that. However the work does not end there. We have the
> answer to th
On 2017 M07 2, Sun 03:43:57 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
...
> In my opinion our answer to "where we want to go" was supposed to be
> something else than "nowhere in particular". Then I think we're falling
> very short on that. We face a problem, and instead of putting our efforts
> to find where to go
On 2017 M07 5, Wed 15:05:26 CEST Clemens Toennies wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2017 13:14, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote:
> > Should we make privacy our main focus for the next 5 years?
>
> How about Freedom?
The "KDE - Digital Freedom" is one of my favourite T-shirts...
Still, there exists already a software
On 2017 M07 5, Wed 12:17:10 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:28:24 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On 2017 M07 2, Sun 03:43:57 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > In my opinion our answer to "where we want to go
On 2017 M07 5, Wed 13:14:19 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On woensdag 5 juli 2017 12:17:10 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > IOW, knowing the organization as a whole decided on some sort of direction
> > at least for a while would prompt me into looking beyond my usual comfort
> > zone. By doing that w
On 2017 M07 6, Thu 07:29:39 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> On Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:12:38 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> > Except that I don't think "Open Data" should really be THE focus of KDE
> > (but I guess you just used that as a random example ?), I fully
Hi,
On 2017 M07 7, Fri 07:21:32 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Hello,
...
> > How about collecting ideas for that ?
> > We have already 5.
>
> 5? I missed a couple I guess. I spotted only "privacy" and "freedom" so far.
For completeness:
- privacy
- (practical) freedom
- reliability
- KDE apps for A
On 2017 M08 9, Wed 00:19:32 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
...
> - Easy way to share files
> A solution that puts files automatically on share.kde.org and embeds them
> from there works only if we have people willing and able to implement that
> feature into a desktop- as well as mobile client
One th
On 2017 M08 2, Wed 12:32:32 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:20:11 +0200
>
> Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > Thanks everyone who worked on putting this together at Akademy. I
> > believe this is a way that can work well for us as a community.
> >
> > So one of the things we still
On 2017 M08 18, Fri 18:14:22 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I spent some time thinking and working on a proposal for the big hairy
> audacious goal (1), the goal that the KDE community sets for itself to
> strive for in the next five years. (Context: re-read the thread started
> by Kev
On 2017 M08 30, Wed 16:20:07 CEST Luca Beltrame wrote:
...
> In fact I think it would be worthwhile to present such options. I've
> seen KDE software used in places I did not expect (e.g. a research
> institute in agrobiology I visited a few years ago).
>
> That said, I think it would be also a go
On 2017 M08 29, Tue 18:12:55 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer
>
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > here is my proposal for a Big Hairy Audacious Goal:
> > Making KDE software the #1 choice for science and academia
> >
> > I think that here is a lot of y
On 2017 M09 5, Tue 01:26:44 CEST Aleix Pol wrote:
...
> That said, I think it's also worth including here other major mobile
> platforms. I'm convinced that the appeal to make an application mobile
> is magnitudes greater if the application will work on other platforms
> besides our own.
+1
I thin
On 2017 M09 15, Fri 20:02:35 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On 15. Sep 2017, at 04:34, Valorie Zimmerman
> > wrote:>
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >> El divendres, 15 de setembre de 2017, a les 1:10:32 CEST, Boudhayan Gupta
> >> va>>
> >> escriure:
> >>> While
On 2017 M11 6, Mon 17:55:10 CET victorhck wrote:
> El 06/11/17 a las 17:31, Aleix Pol escribió:
> > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:03 PM, victorhck wrote:
> >> El 06/11/17 a las 15:53, Andy B escribió:
> >>> Thank you Lydia.
> >>>
> >>> I voted.
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:1
On 2017 M11 30, Thu 12:57:15 CET Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> Hey Dominik,
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Dominik Haumann wrote:
> > Hi Lydia,
> >
> > Maybe next Akademy should focus on these topics? Maybe prefer
> > talks specific to these three goals? Maybe even have a separate
> > track for
On 2018 M01 26, Fri 13:11:56 CET Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> For FOSDEM, we've got a table -- but what shall we show off there? I'll
maybe somehow try to concentrate on the big goals which have been chosen,
privacy and usability ?
Alex
On 2018 M04 11, Wed 14:18:05 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Dearest KDE
>
> KDE neon is a project to bring KDE's software to the people by various
> convenient and rapid methods. Recently we've been working on packages
> for the Pinebook [1]. Pinebook is a < $100 laptop using an ARM
> processor
On 2018 M08 13, Mon 06:08:38 CEST Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> Just to follow up: many people have talked about this topic with me at
> Akademy. What I'm not seeing is a public discussion here on the
> community list. Note: I deliberately did not send this to the e.V.
> list because this is not stric
Hi,
...
> We were close to being global
I don't really understand what you mean with "global". Can you please explain
?
Thanks
Alex
Hi,
On 2019 M02 15, Fri 21:08:40 CET Paul Brown wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We at the Promo group recently published our Long Term Goals at
>
> https://community.kde.org/Promo%27s_Long_Term_Goals
>
> This text helps explain what Promo does and doesn't, and where our
> priorities lay. More importantly, it
On 2019 M04 25, Thu 17:19:14 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:49 AM Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> > [[ Since my blog is down, this is the all the report we'll see about FOSS-
...
> > Personally I'd like the Open Source booths to fit in with the rest of the
>
On Freitag, 20. September 2019 11:02:44 CEST Jens wrote:
> So recent discussions about Climate Strike raised some very good points
> about what KDE as a community can do to decrease its footprint. I want
> to thank Friedrich for raising them.
>
> Personally I think this is a rather fun focus for d
On Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019 13:04:35 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about themselves
> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE
> significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that talking about
> polit
On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019 22:23:10 CET Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
...
> The purpose of the planet is not to give news, is not to soothe troubled
> breasts, is not to provide PR, it's a place where blogs by KDE developers
> are brought together, and yes, that means that you will see other parts of
On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 15:42:15 CET Niccolò Venerandi wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm working on adding a kde.org/hardware webpage. You can see screenshot
> here: https://phabricator.kde.org/D26711. What do you think? ~Niccolò
> Venerandi
Regarding Tuxedo: I bought one 5 years ago or so, and it is a go
On Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 15:11:36 CET Philippe Cloutier wrote:
> Le 2020-01-25 à 02:47, Alexander Neundorf a écrit :
> > On Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 15:42:15 CET Niccolò Venerandi wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> I'm working on adding a kde.org/hardware webpage. You can
On Dienstag, 23. März 2021 20:49:36 CET Carl Schwan wrote:
> Hello all,
> like you probably heard already RMS was reinstatement to the
> Board of Directors of the Free Software Foundation. RMS has
> always been a negative force to the Free Software movement due
> to his toxic behavior.
IMO, calli
On Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 08:53:31 CET Patrick Spendrin wrote:
> Am 24.03.2021 um 23:26 schrieb Aleix Pol:
> > Dear community,
> > From the KDE e.V. we followed closely the discussions on the last few
> > days regarding this recent decision within the Free Software
> > Foundation's leadership.
>
On Donnerstag, 25. November 2021 14:44:56 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I know a company that would like to hire people with a skill set that
> is relatively common inside the KDE community, the job is not strictly
> KDE related, one could call it KDE-adjacent.
>
> How do we feel about
On Freitag, 19. April 2024 22:51:55 CEST Jakob Petsovits wrote:
...
> all KF dependencies from source. Now that all the megarelease is out, we
> might want to consider relying on distro packages for KF6 by default, in
> the same way that Qt is not built by default either. This would underscore
> th
From: Boudhayan Gupta
> Hi all,
>
> Over the past few weeks, I have been writing a new screenshot
> application for KDE. I'm calling it KScreenGenie, and the code is
> currently online at https://github.com/BaloneyGeek/KScreenGenie.
>
> I initially started out by trying to help out in porting KS
Hi,
not sure I understand:
On Saturday, April 18, 2015 12:00:03 kde-community-requ...@kde.org wrote:
> * During KDE e.V.'s annual general assembly, the report is discussed
> and some of the recommended focus areas are agreed on as goals.
> * At a strategy sprint, core community members come up wi
Hi everyone,
as Lydia already wrote earlier today, there have been activities in the KDE
community to come up with a vision for the KDE project for the next years, so
we can better work together to achieve our goals as a community.
Additionally to the team presented by Lydia, an additional team
On Wednesday, February 03, 2016 14:58:54 Martin Klapetek wrote:
...
> Imho this goes against the Manifesto as the projects gets to
> "enjoy the benefits" without the complying with "commitments"
> of the Manifesto. It's also less transparent overall (not able to
> monitor progress as it's not on KD
Hi Adriaan,
On Wednesday, February 03, 2016 23:18:26 Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 February 2016 22:05:20 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Let's make KDE rule the world of free GUI software !
>
> I'll be a little flippant and say that this is a second vision, d
On Thursday, February 04, 2016 20:38:52 Boudhayan Gupta wrote:
...
> Under the "focused" proposal, such a software would have no place in
> the KDE Project. In fact, a software, developed within KDE to address
> KDE's (not KDE users but the KDE Project itself) needs cannot be a
> part of the KDE Pr
Hi,
On Thursday, February 04, 2016 07:53:06 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 11:44:35 PM CET Alexander Dymo wrote:
> > I reread both drafts and realized that people who have not
> > participated in the development of these proposals might miss the
> > important difference b
Hi Ingo,
On Friday, February 05, 2016 16:43:06 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 February 2016 22:05:20 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > KDE is an end-user focused, openly governed community of free software
> > enthusiasts
>
> This is a description of what you (and me) th
Hi,
...
> Thus now my question: How will this vision provide us guidance for the next
> disruption? How will we be able to use this vision to be a leader in the
> next disruption? Please explain why you think that the vision will help in
> the next disruption. If you don't think that the vision is
On Saturday, February 06, 2016 19:39:35 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission
> > statement. But I think, before we tackle the mission statement, we should
> > nail down the v
On Monday, February 08, 2016 10:56:01 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Thursday, February 04, 2016 08:49:55 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Still we don't see linear algebra libraries or build tools as the main
> > goal
> > KDE is trying to achieve (...says the
On Monday, February 08, 2016 09:26:50 Martin Graesslin wrote:
...
> From the replies I read I have a feeling that you haven't made up your mind
> yet what the "focus" means. It gives me a feeling that each project to join
> would be questioned in detail, whether it matches the perceived "focus". No
On Monday, February 08, 2016 22:41:08 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Monday, February 08, 2016 21:42:58 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > I understand that you're saying it doesn't have a place in KDE.
> >
> > Sebas, you may have missed that I explicitely mentioned
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 11:59:26 Marco Martin wrote:
...
> I fear a part of the explanation is very simple and very sad...
> the first time around every participant was young and willing to ride the
> change, today several generations are living together in KDE
here is the mail from Matthias
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 07:55:08 Martin Graesslin wrote:
...
> This was more a rhetorical question. Apparently it didn't make it through.
> I'm worried about your vision closing a path for the future. Your vision
> setting a focus on past technologies, which will result in stagnation,
> shrin
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:41:07 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
...
> As Martin said very well already: By defining our goals not in terms of
> technology but in terms of values and principles, we don't lose the
> technology aspect, we are still experts in Qt,
sure we'll lose it long-term.
If we d
Hi,
I'll also start a new sub-thread.
Since this vision draft is very broad: what kind of projects do you consider
to be covered by this vision draft ?
Or, the other way round, are there projects, or types of projects which you
see as not part of this vision ?
Alex
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 20:37:29 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Alexander Dymo wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> >> The technology is something that does not belong into the vision.
> >
> > Why? It would be strange for the tech or
Hi Thomas,
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
...
> That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we
> should agree on a definition. It doesn't have to be one with which everybody
> wholeheartedly agrees, because it's mostly used for communicatio
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:55:59 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> > This is maybe an important detail.
> > The results of "Evolve KDE" (https://evolve.kde.org/surveyresults.pdf)
> > recommend to
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 07:59:20 Clemens Toennies wrote:
...
> Provoking thought:
> With the recent shift of Gnome to exclusivity (leading to mint x-apps,
> ubuntu forks), what if more and more GTK applications would become KDE
> projects because of shared values inside an independent, welc
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:03:47 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:15:21 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > I'll also start a new sub-thread.
> > Since this vision draft is very broad: what kind of projects do you
> > consider to be covered by
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:06:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:08:19 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:03:47 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:15:21 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
>
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 01:22:02 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> A vision statement alone doesn't do much, either. A mission is needed to
> turn vision into strategy.
Yes. :-)
> > Anyway, I think visio
Hi,
On Friday, February 12, 2016 08:04:10 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:06:33 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:06:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:08:19 PM Alexander Neundorf
On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:00:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
...
> Maybe what you want is an overarching product vision instead of a community
> vision, after all?
I think I can answer at least for everybody from the alternative-draft team,
maybe also for the people who want more "direction" in K
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:17:03 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 09:42:31 PM Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > > Also, what do you think about the relation between vision and mission
> > > > ?
> > >
> > > When I joined t
Hi,
I'll try to summarize the points (as much as I can remember) which have been
made wrt. to the alternative vision draft
(https://community.kde.org/KDE/VisionDraftA).
1) There was the argument that some things which exist in KDE do not match the
4 items mentioned, e.g. a git-mirroring tool (
On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:37:23 Clemens Toennies wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2016 9:14 PM, "Alexander Neundorf" wrote:
> > On Friday, February 12, 2016 21:00:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > Maybe what you want is an overarching product vision ins
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 15:35:01 Martin Graesslin wrote:
...
> I can turn that 180 degree around and argue that we are currently too narrow
> minded to get new people in and are not doing great. Hey look all the
> awesome work with Plasma 5 and Wayland. We are doing desktop, desktop,
> deskt
Hi,
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer
>
> wrote:
> > sent to wrong mailinglist by mistake ...
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: "Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer"
> > To: kde-ev-members...@kd
Hi Ingo,
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 21:35:22 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Monday 08 February 2016 17:07:26 Alexander Dymo wrote:
...
> > Defining it in writing as the goal of KDE adds neither value nor
> > attractiveness to KDE as a project.
>
> Well, that's debatable (and I disagree with it), bu
Hallo Ingo,
On Monday, February 15, 2016 14:31:09 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Hi Ingo,
>
> On Saturday, February 13, 2016 21:35:22 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
...
> > I think your concern is that the vision does not function as
> > differentiation from other free software commun
On Monday, February 15, 2016 19:12:35 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Sunday 14 February 2016 23:57:56 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
...
> > I mean, we are not targetting e.g. sensor networks built from 8bit uCs
> > communicating to some big online server, with no user intervention
> >
On Monday, February 15, 2016 07:54:40 Martin Graesslin wrote:
...
> Please ask yourself the following question: what if a project inside KDE
> started to do it? What would happen with the project? Would they stay in or
> would they leave KDE?
>
> I understand that you want to draw a line to define
On Monday, February 15, 2016 14:00:45 Alexander Dymo wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Martin Graesslin
wrote:
> > That's what we have been doing the last few years, so where are they?
> > Where
> > are the devs taking our application to mobile, etc. etc.
>
> KF(5) has barely reached the
On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the
> community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and
> have now put this into a second draft. It reads as follows:
> "KDE creates technol
On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:41:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
...
> Now the thing is: As many of you surely already know, I'm a big fan of
> product visions. Whenever I start working with a community within KDE, the
> first thing I ask is "Do we have a product vision yet?", and if the answer
> is "n
On Monday, February 15, 2016 15:11:47 Martin Graesslin wrote:
...
> Maybe you could start thinking about that. What does it mean if THE GUI
> maintainer doesn't want that? Maybe he has a better look on it with THE GUI
> knowledge?
>
> Please don't completely dismiss my feedback. Think about it.
Y
On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:12:06 Mario Fux wrote:
> On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:25:52 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Hallo Ingo,
>
> Morning Alex and Co
>
> > On Monday, February 15, 2016 14:31:09 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > Hi Ingo,
> >
On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:27:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A bit less than two weeks
On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 08:01:01 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 10:22:20 PM CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Monday, February 15, 2016 15:11:47 Martin Graesslin wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > Maybe you could start thinking about that
On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 22:59:35 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 07:37:07 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > "KDE creates technology for a world in which everyone has freedom,
> > privacy and control over their digital life."
> >
> > isn't a conflation of vision and mis
On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:22:53 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 22:02:18 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:41:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > My suggestion, therefore, is: Why don't those who are looking for a
>
On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the
> community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and
> have now put this into a second draft. It reads as follows:
> "KDE creates technol
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 16:50:16 Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
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> After reading all of the above, which put into words my inchaote
> thoughts, I would like to offer the following version:
>
> KDE: control your digital life
just a nitpick: worded like this, isn't this an order ?
"control your
On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 22:59:35 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 07:37:07 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > "KDE creates technology for a world in which everyone has freedom,
> > privacy and control over their digital life."
> >
> > isn't a conflation of vision and mis
On Friday, February 26, 2016 20:01:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:22:22 PM AMT Stephen Kelly wrote:
> > Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> > > Oooo, Steve! Thank you for capping off an excellent discussion.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stephen Kelly
wrote:
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 19:42:44 Stephen Kelly wrote:
> Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> >> "A world in which everyone has control over their digital life" (in ->
> >> over) seems a great vision.
> >
> > personally I'd like to have included tha
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 09:54:18 Stephen Kelly wrote:
> Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> >> I don't know if you read my mail, but I'd encourage you to do so.
> >
> > TBH, it's so long I got lost.
>
> Then I don't know why you are writing in this
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 23:59:12 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Saturday 27 February 2016 21:29:10 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
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> > The user still depends on the company to continue the product, to not
> > change the terms and conditions, etc.
> > The user still is forced to u
On Monday, February 29, 2016 15:58:48 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Montag, 22. Februar 2016 23:05:49 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > A bit less than two weeks
On Thursday, March 03, 2016 04:46:20 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> replying on phone. blame faulty text completion/correction for any rudeness!
> On Feb 29, 2016 5:40 PM, "Alexander Neundorf" wrote:
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> > Can we express the "not be at the mercy of some company" cle
On Saturday, March 05, 2016 11:18:47 Stephen Kelly wrote:
> Jos Poortvliet wrote:
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> > Just think about neon - make a list of 5 reasons why it shouldn't be a KDE
> > project, easy. But then look at the vision: does it help people (a certain
> > group, in this case, Ubuntu users) achieve and more
Hi,
so, after the discussions, how do we proceed ?
Settle on
"A world in which everyone has control over their digital life"
as preliminary vision statement, put it in the community wiki somewhere, and
start with working on a mission statement ?
Other ideas ?
Alex
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On Monday, March 14, 2016 14:58:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
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> Next steps:
> * publish the vision. I'm still working out what needs doing.
can we please try to publish vision and mission together ?
If things go well, maybe can get that done until end of April.
Alex
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