Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-21 Thread Caslav Ilic
>> [: Chusslove Illich :] >> I'm talking about coming to a random office in the world and finding my >> language already available, without trifling anyone about it. > > [: René J.V. Bertin :] > Out of curiosity: do you expect to use your language when communicating > with people instead of

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-18 Thread Chusslove Illich
> [: René J.V. Bertin :] > [...] AFAIK it's always been a habit among distributions to package > languages separately. Which distributions? Not the ones I use, Debian and Suse. I know only of Ubuntu doing it. >> [: Chusslove Illich :] >> Furthermore, if one thinks of stripping the translation

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-18 Thread Chusslove Illich
>> [: Chusslove Illich :] >> It has a use in every situation where multiple-language users work in a >> centrally administered network. Like in... an office. > > [: René J.V. Bertin :] > How many offices do you know that require all known languages to be > installed? The only organisations I can

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-18 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday December 18 2015 10:53:35 Chusslove Illich wrote: >I'm not talking about offices requiring it. I'm talking about coming to a >random office in the world and finding my language already available, >without trifling anyone about it. Out of curiosity: do you expect to use your language

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday December 16 2015 14:18:33 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > How about bundling the files in qrc containers, one per language to address > the issue of many tiny files? Agreed (and a priori already raised in a previous message). > That reminds me similar case of icon files. Indeed. And the

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday December 16 2015 11:48:58 David Faure wrote: > They are copied into the frameworks at release time. So you can also grab > them from > svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kf5 directly (warning, this is huge) Ah, good! Svn is a bit of a hog indeed, but IIRC it does make it

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Wednesday 16 of December 2015 14:44:54 René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Wednesday December 16 2015 14:18:33 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > > How about bundling the files in qrc containers, one per language to > > address > > the issue of many tiny files? > > Agreed (and a priori already raised in a

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread Chusslove Illich
> [: René J.V. Bertin :] > It seems that with KF5 we have gotten back in the situation where you get > every possible language installed. Now that may be nice for the occasional > office prank [...] something that has absolutely no use for the vast > majority of users. It has a use in every

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread David Faure
On Wednesday 16 December 2015 11:20:38 René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Wednesday December 16 2015 09:03:53 David Faure wrote: > > > Yep, remove them if you don't want them, but then your users are going to > > complain, unless you provide them separately. > > I think I implied in my original

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread David Faure
On Tuesday 15 December 2015 11:19:29 René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Hi, > > The KDE4 approach to internationalisation (sic :)) had the huge advantage > that it was rather trivial to provide installer packages for individual > languages so users could install only those few languages they would

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday December 16 2015 09:03:53 David Faure wrote: > Yep, remove them if you don't want them, but then your users are going to > complain, unless you provide them separately. I think I implied in my original message that I consider providing them separately the ideal solution ;) Sadly

Re: about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-16 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:20:38AM +0100, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Wednesday December 16 2015 09:03:53 David Faure wrote: > > > Yep, remove them if you don't want them, but then your users are going to > > complain, unless you provide them separately. > > I think I implied in my original

about ki18n/locales: installing only a subset?

2015-12-15 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, The KDE4 approach to internationalisation (sic :)) had the huge advantage that it was rather trivial to provide installer packages for individual languages so users could install only those few languages they would actually use. It seems that with KF5 we have gotten back in the situation