At 02:39 AM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
>whats the issue with stock kr tubular rudder pedals?
The right pedal is torqued across it's entire length when the pilot
uses right rudder, highest loads with a tail wheel on the ground. My
right pedal broke at the 90
>
>
>I'm looking for a set of rudder pedals with toe brake fittings or
>maybe a set of experienced plans for the Hegar hydraulic cylinders to
>replace the original brake-less rudder pedals.
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For top mounted rudder pedals you might try
The highest load on your rudder pedals will happen under hard braking if you
have hydraulic toe brakes. At that point, your pedals aren't going to be
anywhere near the stops. The left pedal isn't a problem so much as the right
pedal because your feet are on the left side, but the right pedal
Jeff Scott wrote:
> The highest load on your rudder pedals will happen under hard braking if you
> have hydraulic toe brakes.
And it goes without saying that if you stand on the brakes while landing,
you're probably going to have to buy another prop and crank if you have a
taildragger!
You are right on Jeff, it was my rt. petal that bent.Sparky
This may effect Tail dragger more then nose wheel, but we must check the
pedals regularly .
No probs yet at 540 hours (nose wheel)
I check my pedals at all annuals, I have made my next ones stronger as it
will be a T/ Wheel, for more fun.
Phil Matheson
lle Il
618 406 4705
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Original message From: Jeff Scott via KRnet
Date:09/11/2014 10:48 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: 'KRnet' Subject: Re: KR>
rudder pedals
The highest load on your rudder pedals will happen under hard br
My builders guide shows the rudder pedals as bent tube rather than welded.
Has anyone built them this way? What are the pros and cons?
TK
Just as a side note on bending. In our manufacturing business we've made
hundreds of thousands of bends on tubing. We've owned and used Swiss made
mandrel benders and regular hydraulic benders. The mandrel benders if adjusted
properly maintain the roundness of the tubing as it's being bent.
At 09:38 PM 9/10/2014, you wrote:
>Take it to someone who builds custom headers and has a 'mandrel' bending
>machine.
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I just can't imagine a setup
( http://www.n56ml.com/pedals/00012802.jpg ) or (
because
of the smaller overall diameter tube, but it should be doable.
JMHO
Mark W.
N952MW (res)
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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford
via KRnet
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:21 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> rudder ped
Tony King wrote:
> My builders guide shows the rudder pedals as bent tube rather than welded.
> Has anyone built them this way? What are the pros and cons?
Bent would be stronger than welded, as there would be "no heat affected
zone" to weaken the parent material, as you get from welding. A
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Original message From: Flesner via KRnet
Date:09/10/2014 6:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: KRnet Subject: KR> rudder
pedals
At 02:25 PM 9/10/2014, you wrote:
>What Sparky doesn't mention is that in trying to "ke
At 05:52 PM 9/10/2014, you wrote:
>My builders guide shows the rudder pedals as bent tube rather than welded.
> Has anyone built them this way? What are the pros and cons?
>TK
Just my opinion but the welded (reinforced 90 degree
Yes
, that is good Steve. Mine were .035.
The plans rudder pedals were .035. They were upgraded to .049 with hydraulic
brakes but was still problematic. We make all of ours from . 058. Not much
weight gain but much safer/ stronger.
Steve Glover
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> On Sep 10, 2014, at 15:01, Flesner via KRnet wrote:
>
> At 02:25
At 02:25 PM 9/10/2014, you wrote:
>What Sparky doesn't mention is that in trying to "keep it light," he lost
>his rudder because the tubing he and Murray used to fabricate the rudder
>pedals broke at a critical moment when he was caught by a gust on
>landing.
Dene Collett wrote:
> Can somebody who has their plans handy please give me the measurement of
> the
> rudder pedals from the hinge point centre to the cable attach.
4", assuming you mean using hinges attached to the bottoms of the rudder
bars.
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at
Can somebody who has their plans handy please give me the measurement of the
rudder padals from the hinge poing centre to the cable attach. My plans are
not available right now so can't check myself.
Thanks
Dene
Regards
Dene Collett
www.denecollett.com
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From: KRnet
>
>My KR rudder pedals have no tubing, just cables running directly back to
>the rudder
>Mike Stirewalt
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What are the cables attached to and what transfers the movement of
your feet to the cables?
L
>
>My KR rudder pedals have no tubing, just cables running directly back to
>the rudder
>Mike Stirewalt
+++
What are the cables attached to and what transfers the movement of
your feet to the cables?
Larry Flesner
. A
gust caught him when flaring here at KSEE and in recovering broke the
rudder tubing which left him without rudder. He ended up clipping
something stationary and breaking his left wing and pretty much messing
the plane up beyond repair. So . . . don't skimp on the rudder tubing is
the les
Mine broke also. My KR had at least 100 hours on it with the old
mechanical brakes and a pull cable. I added hydraulic brakes on the
rudder pedals and I snapped a joint like Larry during my initial taxii
testing and almost took out some lights at the end of the runway.
What I did was to get
pare the two thicknesses. Give me a call .
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618 406 4705
>
> Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Phillip Hill via KRnet"
> Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 5:08 pm
> Subject: KR> Rudder p
>. The 5/8 x .035" tubing seems a
>bit "springy" to me. Did everyone else use this tubing for their rudder
>pedals or did you go up to .049"?
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The .035 tubing is o.k. but REINFORCE THE 90 DEGREE CORNERS on the
side to side runs. The
!
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From: "Phillip Hill via KRnet"
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, May 12, 2014 5:08 pm
Subject: KR> Rudder pedals
To: "KRnet"
Hi guys, I'm working on my rudder pedals. The 5/8 x .035" tubing seems a
bit "springy" to
I appreciate the responses...here is a picture of what I have come up with
so far. I flipped over the pedals on the assembly I had and added an
extension to the pedals to attach the cylinders to the pedal side. I
spread the pedals apart wide enough to clear the cylinders ok. I like the
idea of
I was working on rudder pedals and have come across a couple of things.
The first is that I wanted to hang the pedals because the floor of the
fuselage is uneven. Has anyone hung pedals that have brake cylinders
attached? I think I have come up with a way that will work well and will
send
The original Rand pedals were made from .049 wall 4130. We make ours from .058
as this was a common problem once the use of hydraulic brakes became more
prevalent.
Steve Glover
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Having them hanging from behind the fuel tank I can tell you that I would have
them mounted to the floor if it were me, just for easier maintenance. Their
support was all in the way of the motor mounts. Even if I were not changing the
engine, but just removing the motor mount due to breakage,
KR heads
Those of you that have hung your rudder pedals from the shelf in stead of
mounting them on the floor. Were you happy with the height above the floor
that the horizontal made (the bit that your foot rests on)? I have a set of
pedals made to plans and have decided to hang them from the
At 03:12 AM 11/5/2005, you wrote:
>KR heads
>Those of you that have hung your rudder pedals from the shelf in stead of
>mounting them on the floor. Were you happy with the height above the floor
>that the horizontal made (the bit that your foot rests on)?
>Dene Collett
>
> >Those of you that have hung your rudder pedals from the shelf in stead of
> >mounting them on the floor. Were you happy with the height above the floor
> >that the horizontal made (the bit that your foot rests on)?
> >Dene Collett
..net
Did my post to the net make the trip last nite.. It was comments on
our mag timing efforts Maybe I have a bad net
connection..
Someone please respond if they receive this.
On 11/5/05, Larry Flesner
So just add limiting straps or blocks or some other device to prevent movement
further than full deflection each way, as others have described for the stick,
and no more problem with losing the rudder. And if I can taxi back with a tail
wheel stuck to one side after doing for "donuts" on a
kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Re: KR>rudder pedals
Brian,
As I said before, I had a set up similar to yours, and it was great. Come
to the gathering and watch Richard Shirley to see what you can do with
brakes if you get real good at it. I used diff
[mailto:krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=ate-international@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Dana Overall
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:46 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR>rudder pedals
Brian, just a little food for thought. I used those same cylinders on my
KR. Short of fabricating new ped
>Reply-To: serge.vi...@ate-international.com, KR builders and
>pilots<kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "'KR builders and pilots'" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: RE: KR>rudder pedals
>Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:25:00 +0100
>
>...Er... That is highly debatable. I
I was doing some high speed taxi testing today and almost took out the lights
at the end of the runway when my left rudder pedal snapped off. My pedals are
.035" wall 5/8" steel tube per the plans. They are made of pieces cut at a 45
degree angle and welded instead of being bent like some
Brian,
Your installation looks quite normal to me. In fact, other that for the
actual pedal, it looks almost exactly like both KRs that I have been
associated with. You may just have had a bad weld.
N64KR
Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
da...@kr-builder.org
See you in Red Oak - 2003
See
Brian, just a little food for thought. I used those same cylinders on my
KR. Short of fabricating new pedals incorporating a pivoting cylinder, I
chose to remove the cylinders from the assembly in an effort to allieve the
pressure on the rudder horns and the various tie down points as the
net>
Sent: 09/08/03 05:29 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR>rudder pedals
>
> Brian,
Your installation looks quite normal to me. In fact, other that for the
actual pedal, it looks almost exactly like both KRs that I have been
associated with. You may just have had a bad
ctive brakes when I am done.
When the brakes are bled you really don't need much throw at all so you are
better off with a short lever arm for more leverage.
---Original Message---
From: Dana Overall <bo12...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 09/08/03 06:46 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR>
Brian,
As I said before, I had a set up similar to yours, and it was great. Come
to the gathering and watch Richard Shirley to see what you can do with
brakes if you get real good at it. I used differential a lot on the ground.
It makes turning on a spot, very easy.
Sometimes, a little touch
freiberger=swfla.rr@mylist.net] On Behalf Of
Brian Kraut
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 2:05 PM
To: KR builders and pilots
Subject: Re: Re: KR>rudder pedals
I think that heel brakes are a good alternative. I had never used heel
brakes before though so I really had no
important.
Happy landings.
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From: "Brian Kraut" <eng...@earthlink.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: KR>rudder pedals
> I was doing some high speed taxi testing today and almost took out the
lights at t
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